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Post by southlondonbus on Jan 8, 2024 23:28:19 GMT
Not quite bus related but it looks like Khan has found another £30m down the sofa to stave on the tube strikes. More money it seems coming from where?
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Post by busman on Jan 9, 2024 13:59:48 GMT
Not quite bus related but it looks like Khan has found another £30m down the sofa to stave on the tube strikes. More money it seems coming from where? There’s always money. It all depends on where we choose to spend it. Often it goes to whoever shouts the loudest. |
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Post by WH241 on Jan 18, 2024 20:22:25 GMT
There are suggestions Sadiq Khan will freeze some fares this year. This was covered on the ITV news earlier and below. Personally think this is only asking for trouble further down the line. Anyone would think there was an election this year 
Tube fares freeze hopes raised as Sadiq Khan reveals new passenger income forecasts
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Post by TB123 on Jan 18, 2024 20:27:52 GMT
There are suggestions Sadiq Khan will freeze some ares this year. This was covered on the ITV news earlier and below. Personally think this is only asking for trouble further down the line. Anyone would think there was an election this year
Tube fares freeze hopes raised as Sadiq Khan reveals new passenger income forecasts
And people will still moan, like they did when they were increased last year. |
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Post by southlondon413 on Jan 18, 2024 20:38:21 GMT
There are suggestions Sadiq Khan will freeze some fares this year. This was covered on the ITV news earlier and below. Personally think this is only asking for trouble further down the line. Anyone would think there was an election this year
Tube fares freeze hopes raised as Sadiq Khan reveals new passenger income forecasts
Wish I could find half a billion down the back of my sofa. |
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Post by southlondonbus on Jan 18, 2024 21:40:53 GMT
There are suggestions Sadiq Khan will freeze some ares this year. This was covered on the ITV news earlier and below. Personally think this is only asking for trouble further down the line. Anyone would think there was an election this year Tube fares freeze hopes raised as Sadiq Khan reveals new passenger income forecasts
And people will still moan, like they did when they were increased last year. I can see a desire to keep the single bus fare at £1.75 as opposed to talking it to £1.85. |
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Post by VPL630 on Jan 18, 2024 22:15:08 GMT
There are suggestions Sadiq Khan will freeze some fares this year. This was covered on the ITV news earlier and below. Personally think this is only asking for trouble further down the line. Anyone would think there was an election this year Tube fares freeze hopes raised as Sadiq Khan reveals new passenger income forecasts
Wish I could find half a billion down the back of my sofa. You and me both  |
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Post by southlondon413 on Jan 18, 2024 22:19:46 GMT
Wish I could find half a billion down the back of my sofa. You and me both Perhaps we can all cobble together and get Khan some dementia tests, I consider it everyday when I can’t remember what I spent £20 on in the supermarket. |
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Post by WH241 on Jan 18, 2024 22:21:25 GMT
And people will still moan, like they did when they were increased last year. I can see a desire to keep the single bus fare at £1.75 as opposed to talking it to £1.85. 10p saving is nothing on today’s climate for most passengers but will create a huge black hole in TfL’s budget. |
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Post by southlondonbus on Jan 18, 2024 22:30:07 GMT
I can see a desire to keep the single bus fare at £1.75 as opposed to talking it to £1.85. 10p saving is nothing on today’s climate for most passengers but will create a huge black hole in TfL’s budget. Once again TFLs finances will worsen in order to be seen to be the hero of the hour. |
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Post by vjaska on Jan 18, 2024 22:42:49 GMT
10p saving is nothing on today’s climate for most passengers but will create a huge black hole in TfL’s budget. Once again TFLs finances will worsen in order to be seen to be the hero of the hour. We don't actually know why there will be a £185m shortfall as nothing has been confirmed as to whether a fare cut is coming or simply, less people are travelling. If it's the latter, maybe people will realise that simply cutting routes and frequencies just leads to further decline? |
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Post by WH241 on Jan 18, 2024 22:52:01 GMT
Once again TFLs finances will worsen in order to be seen to be the hero of the hour. We don't actually know why there will be a £185m shortfall as nothing has been confirmed as to whether a fare cut is coming or simply, less people are travelling. If it's the latter, maybe people will realise that simply cutting routes and frequencies just leads to further decline? You can’t just have buses running at high frequency in the hope passengers will use them. For many years buses have always seemed under used and think to a certain extent people expect buses to be half empty or to have double deckers on all routes regardless of demand! I don’t buy the argument frequency cut cause decline. There is so much wastefulness in the network especially in the evenings after 9pm when local buses carry fresh air. |
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Post by TB123 on Jan 18, 2024 22:55:08 GMT
We don't actually know why there will be a £185m shortfall as nothing has been confirmed as to whether a fare cut is coming or simply, less people are travelling. If it's the latter, maybe people will realise that simply cutting routes and frequencies just leads to further decline? You can’t just have buses running at high frequency in the hope passengers will use them. For many years buses have always seemed under used and think to a certain extent people expect buses to be half empty or to have double deckers on all routes regardless of demand! I don’t buy the argument frequency cut cause decline. There is so much wastefulness in the network especially in the evenings after 9pm when local buses carry fresh air. Except decades of research by experts has correlated the link between service cuts and declining patronage on public transport. As do lower bus speeds/less reliability and declining bus usage. And I know my own human behaviours confirm that, too. |
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Post by matthieu1221 on Jan 19, 2024 1:18:14 GMT
There are suggestions Sadiq Khan will freeze some fares this year. This was covered on the ITV news earlier and below. Personally think this is only asking for trouble further down the line. Anyone would think there was an election this year
Tube fares freeze hopes raised as Sadiq Khan reveals new passenger income forecasts
Guess he's (smartly) betting on a Labour win at the GE. Perhaps not so smartly expecting the coffers to be opened up by a Labour Govt. though if Starmer and Reeves stick to what they've been staying (though hopefully we'll get a positive u-turn for once from them). |
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Post by matthieu1221 on Jan 19, 2024 1:23:13 GMT
We don't actually know why there will be a £185m shortfall as nothing has been confirmed as to whether a fare cut is coming or simply, less people are travelling. If it's the latter, maybe people will realise that simply cutting routes and frequencies just leads to further decline? You can’t just have buses running at high frequency in the hope passengers will use them. For many years buses have always seemed under used and think to a certain extent people expect buses to be half empty or to have double deckers on all routes regardless of demand! I don’t buy the argument frequency cut cause decline. There is so much wastefulness in the network especially in the evenings after 9pm when local buses carry fresh air. Fully agree with the evening frequencies and often between peaks being very generous.
But there's the case that in a network increasingly expecting passengers to change buses on a single journey, any lower frequency would just be prohibitive. Already a 12 minute frequency is pushing it when you need to change buses.
At night there's the added danger of pushing more passengers into cabs or Uber.
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