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Post by matthieu1221 on Oct 23, 2024 11:16:17 GMT
When a route like W12 was cut from 20 minutes to 30 minutes a few years ago because CT Plus could not run the route effectively and instead of putting resources, they killed the route. Even further they cut the the now revamped W14 for roads like Snaresbrook Road with a high elderly population to 1 hour and goes virtually no where but dumping you at Whipps Cross roundabout, that says it all! They really have lived up to the name TfL (Taking f#c##g Liberties) My initial post was about routes with 10 - 12 min frequencies not routes like the W12 that was every 30 mins or the new W14 which is a joke at every hour. People get worked up here saying passengers won't use buses that run every 12 - 15 mins. Because if you then chop the route into two, breaking my direct link that 12-15 minute wait (which is more manageable at the start of a journey than the middle -- leave home a little later/earlier, stay in the restaurant for a bit longer, pop into a shop), journey times become quite uncompetitive if I have to add on 'average' 6-7.5 minutes of waiting time at the interchange point but in practice that varies from anything 0 to 15 mins or beyond depending on bunching and gaps. So yes, if at that point I can't make the logical 'straight down' Marylebone/Euston Road journey from KX to Paddington for example I will hop on the tube or if I were a little richer/with suitcases/late at night, I'd grab a taxi or Uber. |
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Post by matthieu1221 on Oct 23, 2024 11:21:28 GMT
I wonder if there are plans to alter the 12, 14, 24, 31, 88, 148 and 214? It’s seems as though TfL are doing something with the routes that were included in the Central London consultation but doing something else with them. Like they they couldn’t get rid of the 14 and merge it with the 414 but instead they have just gotten rid of the 414 and hike up the 14. Also they couldn’t divert the 205 to Parliament Hill Fields so they are diverting it to Marble Arch. The response to the Central London Bus Review - ehq-production-europe.s3.eu-west-1.amazonaws.com/6d06c2e4078dd9f773d953da7d536fd1dc91a2a3/original/1669194388/1d3e2bafe8ff45f098ca19d41c3031ad_central-london-bus-review-2022-decision-summary-and-next-steps.pdf - simply said that changes to routes that didn’t take place weren’t being pursued at that time. It does look as though many of them are now being revisited. The potential reduction in frequency to routes such as the 73 and 390 is also a cause for concern. The 390 serves an area around York Way that has seen significant residential development in recent years. Would help the 73 and 390 (and other routes) greatly if they could sort out TCR. The road is bus-only for most of the day but because of the light phasing takes forever to get from the top to the bottom. Utterly depressing. Should've simply stuck a few zebras in when reworking it to 2-way traffic rather than adding traffic lights at every single location they could, for those who prefer formal crossings and everyone else can cross as they please -- looking right and left -- as traffic is low enough during the day. |
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Post by mark on Oct 23, 2024 11:24:53 GMT
Would help the 73 and 390 (and other routes) greatly if they could sort out TCR. The road is bus-only for most of the day but because of the light phasing takes forever to get from the top to the bottom. Utterly depressing. Should've simply stuck a few zebras in when reworking it to 2-way traffic rather than adding traffic lights at every single location they could, for those who prefer formal crossings and everyone else can cross as they please -- looking right and left -- as traffic is low enough during the day. To be honest I think zebras are even worse than traffic lights as you often get a near continuous stream of people drifting aimlessly across the road. The ones in and around Sloane Square are a good example. |
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Post by vjaska on Oct 23, 2024 11:42:03 GMT
Would help the 73 and 390 (and other routes) greatly if they could sort out TCR. The road is bus-only for most of the day but because of the light phasing takes forever to get from the top to the bottom. Utterly depressing. Should've simply stuck a few zebras in when reworking it to 2-way traffic rather than adding traffic lights at every single location they could, for those who prefer formal crossings and everyone else can cross as they please -- looking right and left -- as traffic is low enough during the day. To be honest I think zebras are even worse than traffic lights as you often get a near continuous stream of people drifting aimlessly across the road. The ones in and around Sloane Square are a good example. Providing you don’t stick zebras on the busiest crossing points, then they are much better at keeping traffic flowing than constant rows of unnecessary traffic lights. With Tottenham Court Road, I’d imagine the two busy crossing points are at either end of the road so if correct, you could get away with having either zebras or no crossing full stop |
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Post by southlondonbus on Oct 24, 2024 4:30:41 GMT
To be honest I think zebras are even worse than traffic lights as you often get a near continuous stream of people drifting aimlessly across the road. The ones in and around Sloane Square are a good example. Providing you don’t stick zebras on the busiest crossing points, then they are much better at keeping traffic flowing than constant rows of unnecessary traffic lights. With Tottenham Court Road, I’d imagine the two busy crossing points are at either end of the road so if correct, you could get away with having either zebras or no crossing full stop Also with the lights you often find people walk up and press the button only to then cross straight away with the lights going red 30 seconds later and the crossing a ghost town. |
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Post by matthieu1221 on Oct 24, 2024 20:32:44 GMT
Providing you don’t stick zebras on the busiest crossing points, then they are much better at keeping traffic flowing than constant rows of unnecessary traffic lights. With Tottenham Court Road, I’d imagine the two busy crossing points are at either end of the road so if correct, you could get away with having either zebras or no crossing full stop Also with the lights you often find people walk up and press the button only to then cross straight away with the lights going red 30 seconds later and the crossing a ghost town. The issue with the lights on TCR is that they also serve cars for the intersecting roads so they cycle through the phases anyway regardless of the buttons being pressed or not. The intersections would really work with give way signs in my opinion. Alternatively they can get traffic light priority sorted... if getting a guaranteed green for buses can't be done on a bus-only road it really is hopeless. The number of buses per hour is now low enough for it not to penalise traffic crossing TCR unnecessarily given the many cuts over the years. |
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Post by southlondonbus on Oct 25, 2024 9:37:48 GMT
BBC news Article today says the Mayor has now reduced his demand from central Government from £569 he was asking the Conservatives for (and didn't get) to now £250m. Its says he would consider £250m a win.
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Post by capitalomnibus on Oct 25, 2024 23:26:46 GMT
BBC news Article today says the Mayor has now reduced his demand from central Government from £569 he was asking the Conservatives for (and didn't get) to now £250m. Its says he would consider £250m a win. |
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Post by southlondonbus on Oct 26, 2024 8:07:54 GMT
BBC news Article today says the Mayor has now reduced his demand from central Government from £569 he was asking the Conservatives for (and didn't get) to now £250m. Its says he would consider £250m a win. So basically there no is real improvement or any major new sources for TFLs finances. The return to the office has stalled, a couple of months ago an article talked about a expected £161m surplus yet a less then expected increase meant in reality a £2m deficit, bus contracts are £30m or move overspent (largely caused no doubt by the unexpected hand backs on the 28, 65, 148, C3 etc) Now he's supported the removal the winter fuel allowance maybe with hindsight he might wish he'd followed up on the advice to start to move the Freedom Pass age. |
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Post by capitalomnibus on Oct 26, 2024 11:11:59 GMT
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Post by yunus on Oct 27, 2024 22:33:31 GMT
I understand we will find out on Wednesday but what is the likelihood of TFL securing funding for major projects such as the Bakerloo Line extension & additional funding for a 2030 EV bus fleet?
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Post by WH241 on Oct 27, 2024 22:40:51 GMT
I understand we will find out on Wednesday but what is the likelihood of TFL securing funding for major projects such as the Bakerloo Line extension & additional funding for a 2030 EV bus fleet? To be honest I will be pretty p*ssed if the government provides funding to bring the deadline forward to 2030. There are far more pressing issues than this. I voted Labour for the first time in many years and really starting to regret my choice. The budget is going to be bleak. |
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Post by yunus on Oct 27, 2024 22:46:49 GMT
I understand we will find out on Wednesday but what is the likelihood of TFL securing funding for major projects such as the Bakerloo Line extension & additional funding for a 2030 EV bus fleet? To be honest I will be pretty p*ssed if the government provides funding to bring the deadline forward to 2030. There are far more pressing issues than this. I voted Labour for the first time in many years and really starting to regret my choice. The budget is going to be bleak. I am gonna have to agree with you here. My thoughts is that the Mayor & govt are now the same party so being successful for funding would be easier, we will see. But the main thing is that even with funding there are 'no guarantees', even 2034 cannot be guaranteed. It would of been much more logical if TFL did not have a set in stone date and just worked towards it gradually. I heard that is what happened in the east such as China from my relative. |
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Post by SILENCED on Oct 27, 2024 22:49:06 GMT
I understand we will find out on Wednesday but what is the likelihood of TFL securing funding for major projects such as the Bakerloo Line extension & additional funding for a 2030 EV bus fleet? To be honest I will be pretty p*ssed if the government provides funding to bring the deadline forward to 2030. There are far more pressing issues than this. I voted Labour for the first time in many years and really starting to regret my choice. The budget is going to be bleak. I am hoping there will be something about electricity in there. With demand set to surge, and supply set drop with the decommissioning of nuclear power stations (age related) ... what will be done to ensure uninterrupted supplies .... I am worried we might have left it too late as it is! |
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Post by southlondonbus on Oct 28, 2024 7:35:19 GMT
To be honest I will be pretty p*ssed if the government provides funding to bring the deadline forward to 2030. There are far more pressing issues than this. I voted Labour for the first time in many years and really starting to regret my choice. The budget is going to be bleak. I am hoping there will be something about electricity in there. With demand set to surge, and supply set drop with the decommissioning of nuclear power stations (age related) ... what will be done to ensure uninterrupted supplies .... I am worried we might have left it too late as it is! I Still recall one of the heads of TfL (can't remember which one) saying back in 2016 that for London to have a full electric fleet it would need 4 more power stations. I wonder what changed as there is no way there have or will be 4 new in the next few years. |
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