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Post by Alex on May 6, 2020 0:43:20 GMT
Crikey what an interesting link - thank you so much. I found a lot of that of interest, especially the flats at Nightingale Place under construction. Great stuff, what I can't believe is how unsteady the RTs looked compared to modern buses, though they were rock solid. They knew how to cone up with the goods in the old days! |
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Post by Deleted on May 6, 2020 9:19:07 GMT
The 402 being cut from Bromley should have freed up a bit of space when that happened. The 269 being rerouted to Bromley South I'd love for purely selfish reasons. It's been such a hassle having to walk all the way to Bromley North Station or to Widmore Road/Kentish Way going home from the town centresince they rerouted it it Bexleyheath bound in 2013. Shame buses can't turn right from the Bromley North stands as the 269 could run down Tweedy Road and serve Market Square before running straight along Widmore Road. That would be much better than the current routing, my poor old nan's legs would prefer it as well I'm sure. |
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Post by Deleted on May 6, 2020 9:21:36 GMT
The 402 being cut from Bromley should have freed up a bit of space when that happened. The 269 being rerouted to Bromley South I'd love for purely selfish reasons. It's been such a hassle having to walk all the way to Bromley North Station or to Widmore Road/Kentish Way going home from the town centresince they rerouted it it Bexleyheath bound in 2013. I think there's a good case for a 269 extension to Bromley South, which remains a very important station both London and Kent bound as well as the shopping opportunities, should they ever come back again! Another idea would be having the 269 take over the 162's Bromley South, Park Langley & Beckenham Junction section. |
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Post by beaver14uk on May 6, 2020 17:04:30 GMT
We moved them out to ease pressure. Crystal Palace is a perfect example - it's too full for the 3 & 227 to stand in the bus station so both routes do what they used to before the bus station existed and stand on the parade. |
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Post by beaver14uk on May 6, 2020 17:06:40 GMT
It worked better when we moved to allocated stands. Honestly West Croydon is full and idk why they are extending the 433 there and the 455 being cut there. Imo the 455 should at least run to th old 433 stands |
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Post by vjaska on May 6, 2020 19:10:32 GMT
We moved them out to ease pressure. uote author=" vjaska" source="/post/568923/thread" timestamp="1588593547"]Crystal Palace is a perfect example - it's too full for the 3 & 227 to stand in the bus station so both routes do what they used to before the bus station existed and stand on the parade. [/quote] Indeed, I remember your good self explaining it before if I'm correct? |
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Post by beaver14uk on May 6, 2020 19:53:33 GMT
Expect so We moved them out to ease pressure. uote author=" vjaska" source="/post/568923/thread" timestamp="1588593547"]Crystal Palace is a perfect example - it's too full for the 3 & 227 to stand in the bus station so both routes do what they used to before the bus station existed and stand on the parade. Indeed, I remember your good self explaining it before if I'm correct?[/quote] |
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Post by busaholic on May 6, 2020 20:12:55 GMT
I think there's a good case for a 269 extension to Bromley South, which remains a very important station both London and Kent bound as well as the shopping opportunities, should they ever come back again! Another idea would be having the 269 take over the 162's Bromley South, Park Langley & Beckenham Junction section. I think that might make the section too unreliable, reading on here about how many 269s get turned short of Bromley North at present: many moons ago, but I used to catch a 126 from the top of Westmoreland Road to Beckenham Church to go to work, but in the end used to walk up to Market Square to get a 227 as the 126 was so infrequent and unreliable. |
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Post by busaholic on May 6, 2020 20:28:45 GMT
The 468 could always be extended from the Elephant end  Eltham Station was, of course, the replacement for the Eltham, Well Hall Station bus station when the 'new' station was opened, which in reality was a move of a mere couple of hundred yards. I grew up a short distance from it and must have spent weeks of my life in total there before age 13! Combined with the Southend Crescent stand and the fact that 161 buses from the Woolwich direction could terminate at Eltham Church and travel via Eltham Hill and Sherard Road oos meant its position a ligttle way from the High Street wasn't a problem. In those days too the Bexleyheath line was far more important than the Sidcup line so many passengers went to Well Hall by bus from Avery Hill, Blackfen and places quite near to New Eltham and Mottingham stations, though I'm the first to admit that outside peak hours and Saturdays the number of passengers per bus were few. There were times when the bus station could get fairly crowded, mostly with 132s, with crew reliefs taking place in the canteen there, but I don't recall buses ever queuing to get into it.The pattern of bus services in Eltham has changed gradually over the years, as everywhere, but is still recognisable from those days. Incredible to think that the 61 and 228 routes combined with the 161/A s passing by used to offer close to 30bph to Chislehurst in the peaks.  I remember the old Well Hall bus station well. The new bus station across the road was a great disappointment when it opened. Gone were the individual stands and the big white cube with roundels on each side at the entrance. The new location was basically just a huge parking area with a single stop, no fun at all! The stand at Southend Crescent assumed greater importance so that routes served the High Street more effectively, meaning the new site has never been very busy at all. Being built over the A2 there's not a lot else you can do with it, and I did wonder whether someone might try and use it as an outstation. Anyway, those who wish to see Well Hall bus station in action and enjoy red hot RT action will like this short bit of footage on the BFI Player (don't think you'll need to register as this is one of their free films) player.bfi.org.uk/free/film/watch-rt-buses-in-se-london-1978-onlineYes, bit amateurish but no less interesting. I just wonder why some of the 89 blinds were masked, both front and side. The side ones at least can't have been RM blinds because of the posItion of the route number. Also good to see the old Keston, Fox stand on the 146 - some crews waited for the through bus from Downe to appear before sneaKing out behind and getting in front (as they should have been) by Bromley South! |
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Post by greenboy on May 7, 2020 5:47:59 GMT
Another idea would be having the 269 take over the 162's Bromley South, Park Langley & Beckenham Junction section. I think that might make the section too unreliable, reading on here about how many 269s get turned short of Bromley North at present: many moons ago, but I used to catch a 126 from the top of Westmoreland Road to Beckenham Church to go to work, but in the end used to walk up to Market Square to get a 227 as the 126 was so infrequent and unreliable. I'm not aware of significant numbers of 269s getting curtailed short of Bromley in normal circumstances............no reason why it couldn't be extended to Beckenham Junction but the current 162 service is probably adequate. |
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Post by aaron1 on May 7, 2020 9:21:55 GMT
Beacuse Alperton Sainsbury's is full I allways think the 245 or 79 can be extedned to Perivale via 297 I not shore that a DD can fit into Perivale Tesco so you what do you thaink about this
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Post by DT 11 on May 10, 2020 23:22:19 GMT
Well Arriva signed up to things and we're happy to manage things as they are although far from ideal. Putting the 301 and 401 on Geddes still needs the 132 to back back to BX. Like most places in London there is not enough stands. You can rest assured all of this has been looked at. quote author=" DT 11" source="/post/569018/thread" timestamp="1588609518"] Not to mention apparently the 422s stand has been racking up its fair share of resident complaints too. I believe some 422s stand at Friswell Place after the evening peak is done. I do wonder why there wasn't an agreement with Go Ahead if the 486/132 swap was going to lose money. Stagecoach have the 171 standing in TL's forecourt and the forecourt at BX has a very similar layout so I wonder why it wasn't done. I don't get why either of the 132 or 486 aren't just sent to the garage, but then the obvious issue there is that should another operator then win the routes you'll be back to square one. Really what should have been done is the 422 have a stand made by BX so that the issue never arose in the first place. I'm not sure how much time 301s lose when there's a huge amount of traffic too. Before the 301 even began and I heard the standing arrangements. I had to say no thinking was done whatsoever sorry to say, the first few weeks of the 301 buses were being double parked blocking the road. Place High Frequency route on a 1 Bus Stand.., Early Running is going to happen, the 301 has too much running time between Long Lane & Bexleyheath, it is so timed that when one arrives at Bexleyheath the other is meant to have left at the same time. I suggested the 301 should take the 401s terminus because it would most certainly work out better for the 301 as two buses can pull up there. The 401 can easily use the other stand. In addition to North Greenwich I look forward to see where the 180 will find stand space when extended to North Greenwich [/quote] If that 132 to BX did go ahead that would make things work well. 99 could in effect take the 132 stand with the overflow. 301 could continue current alighting arrangement or (instead 401) and stand at the 99 bus stand. |
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Post by 123ToLondon on May 28, 2022 9:26:13 GMT
Stratford is full sometimes that you have buses going around.
Ilford is terrible! You get buses having to stand on the winston way bus stop or over the corner on giggs approach roundabout there should be bus stands on winston way.
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Post by bilbobaggins1 on Jun 2, 2022 7:25:59 GMT
Euston, especially in Rush hour. Where it’s a terrible bottleneck getting in and out onto Evershot Street. Pedestrians walking in front of buses. A god awful roundabout. The list is endless!
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Post by southlondonbus on Jun 2, 2022 8:51:48 GMT
Euston, especially in Rush hour. Where it’s a terrible bottleneck getting in and out onto Evershot Street. Pedestrians walking in front of buses. A god awful roundabout. The list is endless! The 59 coming out of there will relieve it a bit. |
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