Bus Stations/Terminals that are too full

[aaron1]

Now is will show you which ones are full

the ones are Brent Cross, Golders Green Station, Alperton Sainsbury's Harrow on the Hill Bus Station

Beacause they are so full they can't get more buses routes in like what happern at Harrow they want to withdrawn the 223 from Harrow on the Hill to Northwick Park Hospital so they can get the new X140 in so the main problem when the bus terminals are to full

Can you think of other Bus Stations/Terminals that are full,

[LK65EBO]

Possibly Hounslow Bus St

[Deleted]

Ilford always seems to have buses overflowing into surrounding local roads.

[capitalomnibus]

Turnpike Lane, Walthamstow Central, Victoria

[Paul]

I did a week on the B14s a few weeks ago and it seemed to me that Bexleyheath was bursting at the seams with buses on various stands. Indeed, the Friswell Place stand must have had at least 10 buses on it at one point when there are only spaces marked for 6 (I think!). Also saw queuing to get on the Geddes Place stand as well

I wonder if there’s scope to extend or curtail services away from Bexleyheath just to give a little extra capacity at the various stands

[Eastlondoner62]

May 4, 2020 10:02:52 GMT @dannyb said:

Ilford always seems to have buses overflowing into surrounding local roads.

Ilford is hilarious, buses always seem to get abandoned in all sorts of places. It's funny because when I'm driving out of the exchange car park you'll sometimes see a huge WH coming out of a side road that it was parked on. You often see buses parked at the library too waiting for places to become available at the stand.

Stratford is another terrible one. That place just speaks for itself.

Barking Station too, the amount of times a bus gets parked on the roundabout is ridiculous because there's no space on the stand. 

[15002]

May 4, 2020 10:56:44 GMT Eastlondoner62 said:

May 4, 2020 10:02:52 GMT @dannyb said:

Ilford always seems to have buses overflowing into surrounding local roads.

Ilford is hilarious, buses always seem to get abandoned in all sorts of places. It's funny because when I'm driving out of the exchange car park you'll sometimes see a huge WH coming out of a side road that it was parked on. You often see buses parked at the library too waiting for places to become available at the stand.

Stratford is another terrible one. That place just speaks for itself.

Barking Station too, the amount of times a bus gets parked on the roundabout is ridiculous because there's no space on the stand. 

I’ve always thought that the 238 or the 287 should extend to Barking Bus Garage so that there’s space in Barking Station, it gets ridiculously packed there.

[Eastlondoner62]

May 4, 2020 11:03:04 GMT 15002 said:

May 4, 2020 10:56:44 GMT Eastlondoner62 said:

Ilford is hilarious, buses always seem to get abandoned in all sorts of places. It's funny because when I'm driving out of the exchange car park you'll sometimes see a huge WH coming out of a side road that it was parked on. You often see buses parked at the library too waiting for places to become available at the stand.

Stratford is another terrible one. That place just speaks for itself.

Barking Station too, the amount of times a bus gets parked on the roundabout is ridiculous because there's no space on the stand. 

I’ve always thought that the 238 or the 287 should extend to Barking Bus Garage so that there’s space in Barking Station, it gets ridiculously packed there.

I would certainly agree there, it's just a very short extension that could solve many problems. However I'm not sure how willing TfL will be to give a route a garage terminus as it could scupper future tenders. Especially seeing as Fair Cross has no alternative way to turn around there at all. 

[vjaska]

Crystal Palace is a perfect example - it's too full for the 3 & 227 to stand in the bus station so both routes do what they used to before the bus station existed and stand on the parade.

[Gellico]

North Greenwich, it's an awfully inefficient design in the first place. Imo all buses should enter as the 188 does and the island & main entrance removed meaning you can nearly double the stand capacity of the bus station and eliminate the need for them to loop back around after dropping people off.

Also Bexleyheath however this could be solved if TFL actually considered what they were doing before awarding the 422 to SLN without much of an idea of where to stand it, on the first day all the timetables had it as running to the garage still. If TFL payed up and simply extend the 468 & 132 to the garage the problem of over capacity would vanish in a snap, the whole dropping off and looping around doesn't help to the capacity either of the bus stops. With up to 8x 422, 4x 401, 5x 301s all looping to drop off at the clocktower the demand for space is immense. Nothing should be cut however a more logical approach to standing buses in Bheath is required. If the B11 or B16 were to be lost by BX I would have no idea where they would stand at all now, likewise the 301 uses the emergency stop previously used for when the clocktower was shut, TFL have eliminated all contingency in Bexleyheath. The proposed frequency boost of the 132... I have no idea how either end will cope, really should just short runs Eltham-NG and utilise Eltham Bus Station which is possibly one of the most Under utilised terminals of all.

[george]

Putney Bridge. It's why the 378 has to stand on Putney Bridge approach and the 414 will sometimes terminate at the second to last stop on the route and wait there.

[LondonNorthern]

May 4, 2020 12:43:29 GMT Gellico said:

North Greenwich, it's an awfully inefficient design in the first place. Imo all buses should enter as the 188 does and the island & main entrance removed meaning you can nearly double the stand capacity of the bus station and eliminate the need for them to loop back around after dropping people off.

Also Bexleyheath however this could be solved if TFL actually considered what they were doing before awarding the 422 to SLN without much of an idea of where to stand it, on the first day all the timetables had it as running to the garage still. If TFL payed up and simply extend the 468 & 132 to the garage the problem of over capacity would vanish in a snap, the whole dropping off and looping around doesn't help to the capacity either of the bus stops. With up to 8x 422, 4x 401, 5x 301s all looping to drop off at the clocktower the demand for space is immense. Nothing should be cut however a more logical approach to standing buses in Bheath is required. If the B11 or B16 were to be lost by BX I would have no idea where they would stand at all now, likewise the 301 uses the emergency stop previously used for when the clocktower was shut, TFL have eliminated all contingency in Bexleyheath. The proposed frequency boost of the 132... I have no idea how either end will cope, really should just short runs Eltham-NG and utilise Eltham Bus Station which is possibly one of the most Under utilised terminals of all.

171 stands in TL - they would still stand

[LondonNorthern]

Honestly West Croydon is full and idk why they are extending the 433 there and the 455 being cut there. Imo the 455 should at least run to th old 433 stands

[TB123]

May 4, 2020 12:45:14 GMT LondonNorthern said:

Honestly West Croydon is full and idk why they are extending the 433 there and the 455 being cut there. Imo the 455 should at least run to th old 433 stands

The 433 extension plans are a long way off yet. At the present time I can see there being space to fit the 455 standing there.

[Eastlondoner62]

May 4, 2020 12:43:29 GMT Gellico said:

North Greenwich, it's an awfully inefficient design in the first place. Imo all buses should enter as the 188 does and the island & main entrance removed meaning you can nearly double the stand capacity of the bus station and eliminate the need for them to loop back around after dropping people off.

Also Bexleyheath however this could be solved if TFL actually considered what they were doing before awarding the 422 to SLN without much of an idea of where to stand it, on the first day all the timetables had it as running to the garage still. If TFL payed up and simply extend the 468 & 132 to the garage the problem of over capacity would vanish in a snap, the whole dropping off and looping around doesn't help to the capacity either of the bus stops. With up to 8x 422, 4x 401, 5x 301s all looping to drop off at the clocktower the demand for space is immense. Nothing should be cut however a more logical approach to standing buses in Bheath is required. If the B11 or B16 were to be lost by BX I would have no idea where they would stand at all now, likewise the 301 uses the emergency stop previously used for when the clocktower was shut, TFL have eliminated all contingency in Bexleyheath. The proposed frequency boost of the 132... I have no idea how either end will cope, really should just short runs Eltham-NG and utilise Eltham Bus Station which is possibly one of the most Under utilised terminals of all.

Not to mention apparently the 422s stand has been racking up its fair share of resident complaints too. I believe some 422s stand at Friswell Place after the evening peak is done. I do wonder why there wasn't an agreement with Go Ahead if the 486/132 swap was going to lose money. Stagecoach have the 171 standing in TL's forecourt and the forecourt at BX has a very similar layout so I wonder why it wasn't done.

I don't get why either of the 132 or 486 aren't just sent to the garage, but then the obvious issue there is that should another operator then win the routes you'll be back to square one. Really what should have been done is the 422 have a stand made by BX so that the issue never arose in the first place. I'm not sure how much time 301s lose when there's a huge amount of traffic too.