2021... Your predictions

[rugbyref]

I predict a vastly improved turnout in the suburbs to try to eject Khan. He is widely detested, and when his proposals to charge an entry tax for friends and relatives driving from the counties into the suburbs are publicised, the turnout may be even greater.

[rugbyref]

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/12/11/sadiq-khan-unveils-plans-350-entry-charge-journey-london/

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I was going to write something quite lengthy here, but decided against it. The only trend thus far is just when things seem to be better, they get worse. So I’m not tempting fate.

The only prediction I will make, is January 2021 will be one of the coldest on record with widespread snow across the UK. 

[wirewiper]

Dec 28, 2020 10:43:20 GMT rugbyref said:

I predict a vastly improved turnout in the suburbs to try to eject Khan. He is widely detested, and when his proposals to charge an entry tax for friends and relatives driving from the counties into the suburbs are publicised, the turnout may be even greater.

He may be widely detested in your circle, but he is still clear favourite to win a second term in 2021 no matter how many Conservative bigwigs get parachuted in to prop up the hapless Shaun Bailey. And as for the charge for driving into London, I am quite happy for car owners to pay for the privilege of doing so. 

[M1104]

At least one odd working Metrodecker EV (from the 200) used on the 152

[Eastlondoner62]

Dec 28, 2020 10:43:20 GMT rugbyref said:

I predict a vastly improved turnout in the suburbs to try to eject Khan. He is widely detested, and when his proposals to charge an entry tax for friends and relatives driving from the counties into the suburbs are publicised, the turnout may be even greater.

I heavily doubt a lot of the suburbs will be against Khan, if anything I would say places like Barking are where he gets his strongest support. The only places that will probably vote for Bailey are the traditional Tory grounds like Romford, Ruislip and Bromley and this is not going to be enough to give Bailey a win, even if turnout is extremely high.

I think its quite clear Khan is heading straight for a second term now. Bailey has blown the chances the Conservatives had to get back into office.

[Green Kitten]

Dec 28, 2020 11:10:00 GMT wirewiper said:

Dec 28, 2020 10:43:20 GMT rugbyref said:

I predict a vastly improved turnout in the suburbs to try to eject Khan. He is widely detested, and when his proposals to charge an entry tax for friends and relatives driving from the counties into the suburbs are publicised, the turnout may be even greater.

He may be widely detested in your circle, but he is still clear favourite to win a second term in 2021 no matter how many Conservative bigwigs get parachuted in to prop up the hapless Shaun Bailey. And as for the charge for driving into London, I am quite happy for car owners to pay for the privilege of doing so. 

Probably will be dunked on but I do agree with you regarding the cars. Public transport investment needed more than ever. Exceptions for those who need their cars for work. Khan will win. In his defence he's been dealt a bad hand with the Tories in government.

Dec 28, 2020 10:53:03 GMT @rob said:

I was going to write something quite lengthy here, but decided against it. The only trend thus far is just when things seem to be better, they get worse. So I’m not tempting fate.

Depressing, isn't it. It's driven me insane. Driven me into very dark thoughts.

[vjaska]

Dec 28, 2020 10:43:20 GMT rugbyref said:

I predict a vastly improved turnout in the suburbs to try to eject Khan. He is widely detested, and when his proposals to charge an entry tax for friends and relatives driving from the counties into the suburbs are publicised, the turnout may be even greater.

Both Khan & Bailey are awful - London is the only major Labour territory left and only the outer boroughs have generally popular support for Tories so Khan will very likely win another term. The inner London boroughs would vote Labour.

Providing that long distance transport like trains are improved (sadly no hope for cross border bus services), I don't have an issue with the charge especially if it manages to cut traffic levels.

[ronnie]

Dec 28, 2020 12:27:50 GMT Eastlondoner62 said:

Dec 28, 2020 10:43:20 GMT rugbyref said:

I predict a vastly improved turnout in the suburbs to try to eject Khan. He is widely detested, and when his proposals to charge an entry tax for friends and relatives driving from the counties into the suburbs are publicised, the turnout may be even greater.

I heavily doubt a lot of the suburbs will be against Khan, if anything I would say places like Barking are where he gets his strongest support. The only places that will probably vote for Bailey are the traditional Tory grounds like Romford, Ruislip and Bromley and this is not going to be enough to give Bailey a win, even if turnout is extremely high.

I think its quite clear Khan is heading straight for a second term now. Bailey has blown the chances the Conservatives had to get back into office.

I think in this case it’s the case of a weak candidate blueing whatever chances tories had. Sadiq hasn’t exactly done well on various accounts and his policies may actually hurt the not so well off more. But new found love for labour amongst the middle class and Shaun Bailey being a hopeless candidate at best will ensure a 2nd win

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Dec 28, 2020 12:51:32 GMT Green Kitten said:

Dec 28, 2020 11:10:00 GMT wirewiper said:

He may be widely detested in your circle, but he is still clear favourite to win a second term in 2021 no matter how many Conservative bigwigs get parachuted in to prop up the hapless Shaun Bailey. And as for the charge for driving into London, I am quite happy for car owners to pay for the privilege of doing so. 

Probably will be dunked on but I do agree with you regarding the cars. Public transport investment needed more than ever. Exceptions for those who need their cars for work. Khan will win. In his defence he's been dealt a bad hand with the Tories in government.

Dec 28, 2020 10:53:03 GMT @rob said:

I was going to write something quite lengthy here, but decided against it. The only trend thus far is just when things seem to be better, they get worse. So I’m not tempting fate.

Depressing, isn't it. It's driven me insane. Driven me into very dark thoughts.

Me too. My one and only new years resolution is to deactivate some social media accounts and focus on more uplifting things to spend my time doing.

[MKAY315]

I'm going to say from an economical point of view things will properly pick up in 2022.

2021 I feel will be focusing more on recovering from the pandemic more than anything. I don't think football stadiums will be filled as much as it was before, countries are going to impose a rule of 2 things. A negative test or proof of vaccine. I think Khan will get a clean swoop for a term 2 in office. GCSE results will probably be judged the same way it was this year in the summer.

Office levels won't go back to how it was before. Some people are going to try their hardest to avoid coming into the office for various reasons. Oh yeah I almost forgot. A whole heap of people having to change their cars in preparation for ULEZ.

[Deleted]

Dec 28, 2020 16:05:15 GMT MKAY315 said:

I'm going to say from an economical point of view things will properly pick up in 2022.

2021 I feel will be focusing more on recovering from the pandemic more than anything. I don't think football stadiums will be filled as much as it was before, countries are going to impose a rule of 2 things. A negative test or proof of vaccine. I think Khan will get a clean swoop for a term 2 in office. GCSE results will probably be judged the same way it was this year in the summer.

Office levels won't go back to how it was before. Some people are going to try their hardest to avoid coming into the office for various reasons. Oh yeah I almost forgot. A whole heap of people having to change their cars in preparation for ULEZ.

I get what you say about offices but worry for the wider fall out if offices don't go back. You have the shops that need the lunch trade, you have the service industry that support offices such as paper, stationery and many other things.

I understand the caution now but as soon as vaccines are rolled out things will improve. Home working is not the answer long term. Employers won't keep paying London wages if they can source workers from elsewhere for a lower cost. I wonder how many people would be happy to take a pay cut to work from home and use their own utilities long term.

[MKAY315]

Dec 28, 2020 16:14:15 GMT @dannyb said:

Dec 28, 2020 16:05:15 GMT MKAY315 said:

I'm going to say from an economical point of view things will properly pick up in 2022.

2021 I feel will be focusing more on recovering from the pandemic more than anything. I don't think football stadiums will be filled as much as it was before, countries are going to impose a rule of 2 things. A negative test or proof of vaccine. I think Khan will get a clean swoop for a term 2 in office. GCSE results will probably be judged the same way it was this year in the summer.

Office levels won't go back to how it was before. Some people are going to try their hardest to avoid coming into the office for various reasons. Oh yeah I almost forgot. A whole heap of people having to change their cars in preparation for ULEZ.

I get what you say about offices but worry for the wider fall out if offices don't go back. You have the shops that need the lunch trade, you have the service industry that support offices such as paper, stationery and many other things.

I understand the caution now but as soon as vaccines are rolled out things will improve. Home working is not the answer long term. Employers won't keep paying London wages of they can source workers from elsewhere for a lower cost. I wonder how many people would be happy to take a paper cut to work from home and use their own utilities long term.

It's going to be a difficult one as there's going to be some that are anti-vaccine so it may take a lot of convincing. Then you have people who will try and avoid coming into the office for various reasons such as "not feeling comfortable around people" , then "mental health reasons". Of course it wouldn't work long term which is where businesses are going to have to make the decision as to how to either meet a middle ground or give some people the golden handshake.

[vjaska]

Dec 28, 2020 16:05:15 GMT MKAY315 said:

I'm going to say from an economical point of view things will properly pick up in 2022.

2021 I feel will be focusing more on recovering from the pandemic more than anything. I don't think football stadiums will be filled as much as it was before, countries are going to impose a rule of 2 things. A negative test or proof of vaccine. I think Khan will get a clean swoop for a term 2 in office. GCSE results will probably be judged the same way it was this year in the summer.

Office levels won't go back to how it was before. Some people are going to try their hardest to avoid coming into the office for various reasons. Oh yeah I almost forgot. A whole heap of people having to change their cars in preparation for ULEZ.

They won’t go back to the levels they were occupied but I actually predict that offices will still be fairly populated enough to have them around still as many office workers during the pandemic have actually spoke about how working from home isn’t for them due to them missing the office atmosphere and banter whilst others said that working from home isn’t practical on a permanent basis.

The biggest change I think will see is more places refusing to take cash - Covid really has finished off cash payments as pre Covid, I rarely paid for offline things by card but since March, I now almost exclusively pay for everything by card

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Dec 28, 2020 18:39:08 GMT vjaska said:

Dec 28, 2020 16:05:15 GMT MKAY315 said:

I'm going to say from an economical point of view things will properly pick up in 2022.

2021 I feel will be focusing more on recovering from the pandemic more than anything. I don't think football stadiums will be filled as much as it was before, countries are going to impose a rule of 2 things. A negative test or proof of vaccine. I think Khan will get a clean swoop for a term 2 in office. GCSE results will probably be judged the same way it was this year in the summer.

Office levels won't go back to how it was before. Some people are going to try their hardest to avoid coming into the office for various reasons. Oh yeah I almost forgot. A whole heap of people having to change their cars in preparation for ULEZ.

They won’t go back to the levels they were occupied but I actually predict that offices will still be fairly populated enough to have them around still as many office workers during the pandemic have actually spoke about how working from home isn’t for them due to them missing the office atmosphere and banter whilst others said that working from home isn’t practical on a permanent basis.

The biggest change I think will see is more places refusing to take cash - Covid really has finished off cash payments as pre Covid, I rarely paid for offline things by card but since March, I now almost exclusively pay for everything by card

I think it will come down to individual employers and how the government incentivises employers to bring them back, maybe some sort of tax relief. As long as staff are productive most companies are happy, mine certainly is. But in a way it could be a good way to revitalise town centres outside of central London, companies like Pret could be attracted to more towns in outer boroughs to better attract home office workers to spend money with them. Speaking personally in an ideal world my employer will allow us to do a mixture of home and office working. I haven’t used cash for years and I don’t intend to except for trips to Europe when working, it’s easier to track expenses through cash.