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Post by vjaska on Apr 30, 2021 18:58:01 GMT
Well no it doesn't, the 35 got over 9 million between 2019 and 2020 so what does that say about the route. It is very clearly successful in its own form. Ironically it would be more expensive to fiddle with them than just to leave the 35 as the breadwinner if you could call it that with the 45 existing as a South London oriented route potentially being extended into the New Bermondsey Development or going to somewhere like Wandsworth. I don't think there's much likelihood of the 45 being extended to Bermondsey or Wandsworth, if anything it looks a prime candidate for the axe. Based on what? Your wishes or any actual evidence?
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Post by capitalomnibus on May 2, 2021 22:15:35 GMT
Talking of Parliament Hill, I recommend this tremendous bit of footage from 1970 about cuts to the services there. Some of the arguments - on both sides! - will sound familiar. No surprise, said it so many times, the bus network has been geared up to be purely a feeder in most of London for the Underground network. It is done purposely to force people onto the trains to maximise revenue.
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Post by twobellstogo on May 5, 2021 9:42:14 GMT
How many people here are secretly less interested in the election results but more interested in the end of purdah after tomorrow meaning the possibility of announcements of Central London route changes? 😂
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Post by TB123 on May 5, 2021 9:44:18 GMT
How many people here are secretly less interested in the election results but more interested in the end of purdah after tomorrow meaning the possibility of announcements of Central London route changes? 😂 Equally eager for both!! Also interested to see what is proposed for Waltham Forest.
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Post by SILENCED on May 5, 2021 10:13:47 GMT
How many people here are secretly less interested in the election results but more interested in the end of purdah after tomorrow meaning the possibility of announcements of Central London route changes? 😂 To be honest, have more interest in the 5 Croydon bye elections than anything else.
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Post by ronnie on May 5, 2021 11:25:34 GMT
How many people here are secretly less interested in the election results but more interested in the end of purdah after tomorrow meaning the possibility of announcements of Central London route changes? 😂 Unless count bin face springs a massive surprise results are quite a forgone conclusion this time around
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Post by southlondonbus on May 5, 2021 11:49:41 GMT
I'd say not long after there will be a confirmation of the first raft of freq reductions on Central routes with a start date probably towards the end of June.
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Post by wirewiper on May 5, 2021 12:11:21 GMT
How many people here are secretly less interested in the election results but more interested in the end of purdah after tomorrow meaning the possibility of announcements of Central London route changes? 😂 I don't think there's much doubt who will be the Mayor of London going forward, the only real uncertainty is whether the current incumbent will pull off an overall majority of first-preference votes, or not. I'd be interested to see what happens on the London Assembly. It appears Labour is not faring well in many parts of the country and I wonder if that will be reflected in the Assembly results.
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Post by southlondonbus on May 5, 2021 13:36:32 GMT
Tbh I haven't heard anything from any Mayoral candidates about any plans for major improvements to bus services and even less so about improving the central area. Certainly no counter arguments from Bailey to say that any rumours of further cuts would be reversed.
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Post by vjaska on May 5, 2021 14:50:15 GMT
Tbh I haven't heard anything from any Mayoral candidates about any plans for major improvements to bus services and even less so about improving the central area. Certainly no counter arguments from Bailey to say that any rumours of further cuts would be reversed. Because bus users have long deemed to be not important which is absolutely wrong - even an awful Tory government has spoken more about buses recently than the actual mayor which says everything. All the mayor keeps saying in his political broadcast on TV is he is the son of a bus driver but I don't see him acting like one.
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Post by Deleted on May 5, 2021 15:14:03 GMT
Tbh I haven't heard anything from any Mayoral candidates about any plans for major improvements to bus services and even less so about improving the central area. Certainly no counter arguments from Bailey to say that any rumours of further cuts would be reversed. Because bus users have long deemed to be not important which is absolutely wrong - even an awful Tory government has spoken more about buses recently than the actual mayor which says everything. All the mayor keeps saying in his political broadcast on TV is he is the son of a bus driver but I don't see him acting like one. Honestly you would think as the son of a bus driver he would have been keen to invest in the industry and workers having first hand accounts of how both difficult and rewarding the job could really be but that’s just my opinion.
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Post by Deleted on May 5, 2021 15:40:09 GMT
Because bus users have long deemed to be not important which is absolutely wrong - even an awful Tory government has spoken more about buses recently than the actual mayor which says everything. All the mayor keeps saying in his political broadcast on TV is he is the son of a bus driver but I don't see him acting like one. Honestly you would think as the son of a bus driver he would have been keen to invest in the industry and workers having first hand accounts of how both difficult and rewarding the job could really be but that’s just my opinion. I think son of bus driver is just to make him appear a humble man from a humble hard working family, that’s it, nothing pro bus about Khan at all. Livingstone was the best Mayor in my opinion. Its very odd how bus passengers get forgotten about, given its the most popular form of transport across London. Short sighted.
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Post by capitalomnibus on May 5, 2021 20:20:02 GMT
How many people here are secretly less interested in the election results but more interested in the end of purdah after tomorrow meaning the possibility of announcements of Central London route changes? 😂 I don't think there's much doubt who will be the Mayor of London going forward, the only real uncertainty is whether the current incumbent will pull off an overall majority of first-preference votes, or not. I'd be interested to see what happens on the London Assembly. It appears Labour is not faring well in many parts of the country and I wonder if that will be reflected in the Assembly results. I don't trust the pollsters at all, even though they are saying Labour would do bad around the country, I very much doubt it.
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Post by capitalomnibus on May 5, 2021 20:24:40 GMT
Tbh I haven't heard anything from any Mayoral candidates about any plans for major improvements to bus services and even less so about improving the central area. Certainly no counter arguments from Bailey to say that any rumours of further cuts would be reversed. Because bus users have long deemed to be not important which is absolutely wrong - even an awful Tory government has spoken more about buses recently than the actual mayor which says everything. All the mayor keeps saying in his political broadcast on TV is he is the son of a bus driver but I don't see him acting like one. It is surprising the son of a bus driver as he put it. Even though his dad never even done a year on the buses and was more a shop keeper running a business than a bus driver. People like Khan drip feed crap out to people to think otherwise by brainwashing them. It is always the usual BS to make the electorate think that they are down to earth just like them, when in true they are very well off. Key bus people left TfL when Khan took over, many stayed when Boris took over from Livingstone. Goes to show the direction many of them thought about Khan
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Post by ronnie on May 5, 2021 20:25:12 GMT
Because bus users have long deemed to be not important which is absolutely wrong - even an awful Tory government has spoken more about buses recently than the actual mayor which says everything. All the mayor keeps saying in his political broadcast on TV is he is the son of a bus driver but I don't see him acting like one. Honestly you would think as the son of a bus driver he would have been keen to invest in the industry and workers having first hand accounts of how both difficult and rewarding the job could really be but that’s just my opinion. I think he is traumatised by it. Which is why he goes out of his way that there are no sons-of-bus-drivers any more ....
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