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Post by southlondon413 on Mar 22, 2022 13:51:09 GMT
Have heard from a number of sources, and indeed today MyLondon published it, that a flurry of bus service consultations are expected towards the "late spring" - these are expected to include a fairly large scale inner-London consultation exercise, Brent Cross/Cricklewood as well as one focused on Tottenham/Meridian Water... Potentially more than that with scope for some possible outer London exercises. Interesting times ahead and expect we will see some bold changes proposed, especially in inner London. Personally I would expect more cross city “super routes” in a similar vein to the 88. Ones that will go across town rather than to a point within central London and back. So whereas now route A might come from the south and punters pick up route B to continue north, you’d have a new route C which replaces most of both. |
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Post by southlondonbus on Mar 22, 2022 15:07:47 GMT
Have heard from a number of sources, and indeed today MyLondon published it, that a flurry of bus service consultations are expected towards the "late spring" - these are expected to include a fairly large scale inner-London consultation exercise, Brent Cross/Cricklewood as well as one focused on Tottenham/Meridian Water... Potentially more than that with scope for some possible outer London exercises. Interesting times ahead and expect we will see some bold changes proposed, especially in inner London. But surely Meridian water and Brent Cross will need additional services so can't see how that will active the 4% reduction. Unless a saving in Tottenham will be pay for an increase in Meridian Water. |
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Post by WH241 on Mar 22, 2022 15:13:11 GMT
Have heard from a number of sources, and indeed today MyLondon published it, that a flurry of bus service consultations are expected towards the "late spring" - these are expected to include a fairly large scale inner-London consultation exercise, Brent Cross/Cricklewood as well as one focused on Tottenham/Meridian Water... Potentially more than that with scope for some possible outer London exercises. Interesting times ahead and expect we will see some bold changes proposed, especially in inner London. But surely Meridian water and Brent Cross will need additional services so can't see how that will active the 4% reduction. Unless a saving in Tottenham will be pay for an increase in Meridian Water. There are probably lots more cuts in the pipeline and nowhere need the 4% yet. What makes Brent Cross special that it’s immune to cuts? |
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Post by southlondonbus on Mar 22, 2022 15:20:36 GMT
But surely Meridian water and Brent Cross will need additional services so can't see how that will active the 4% reduction. Unless a saving in Tottenham will be pay for an increase in Meridian Water. There are probably lots more cuts in the pipeline and nowhere need the 4% yet. What makes Brent Cross special that it’s immune to cuts? Well nothing but I was under the impression a large housing development had happened there. I may be wrong thou. So these consultations are more about rationalisation then improvements? I'd still hold my breathe that all the Sutton changes will go ahead. Until I see the tenders for the S2 and 439 I won't be certain it's going ahead. |
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Post by vjaska on Mar 22, 2022 16:05:25 GMT
Have heard from a number of sources, and indeed today MyLondon published it, that a flurry of bus service consultations are expected towards the "late spring" - these are expected to include a fairly large scale inner-London consultation exercise, Brent Cross/Cricklewood as well as one focused on Tottenham/Meridian Water... Potentially more than that with scope for some possible outer London exercises. Interesting times ahead and expect we will see some bold changes proposed, especially in inner London. Personally I would expect more cross city “super routes” in a similar vein to the 88. Ones that will go across town rather than to a point within central London and back. So whereas now route A might come from the south and punters pick up route B to continue north, you’d have a new route C which replaces most of both. Essentially returning to the 70's just as congestion continues to increase and we all know what happened then - long routes paired back as a result. |
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Post by southlondonbus on Mar 22, 2022 22:47:45 GMT
There is supposed to be a committee including DfT representation reviewing every single route. The development studies do not necessarily mean cuts. The one for the Surrey Quays area outlined new routes to infill some gaps in the existing network as well as the diversions to be implemented next year. The development study for the Surrey Quays area was done 5 years ago, unless you know of another done more recently and since then much has changed in the context of TfL finances as well as housing developments being slower than expected to come on-stream. So I expect the resulting bus service changes to be different I couldn't see anything on MyLondon when I looked. |
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Post by CircleLineofLife on Mar 23, 2022 7:01:55 GMT
Have heard from a number of sources, and indeed today MyLondon published it, that a flurry of bus service consultations are expected towards the "late spring" - these are expected to include a fairly large scale inner-London consultation exercise, Brent Cross/Cricklewood as well as one focused on Tottenham/Meridian Water... Potentially more than that with scope for some possible outer London exercises. Interesting times ahead and expect we will see some bold changes proposed, especially in inner London. But surely Meridian water and Brent Cross will need additional services so can't see how that will active the 4% reduction. Unless a saving in Tottenham will be pay for an increase in Meridian Water. These destinations are in outer Lodnon by TfL classification, the only boroughs inner London are city, tower hamlets, camden, westminster, h & f , rbkc, tower hamlets, southwark, lambeth, wandsworth, islington, lewisham, hackney and greenwich. Haringey is now classified as outer london since the adoption of the london plan in 2021. So expect most radical changes to the bus network in these boroughs |
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Post by snowman on Mar 23, 2022 8:16:47 GMT
Have heard from a number of sources, and indeed today MyLondon published it, that a flurry of bus service consultations are expected towards the "late spring" - these are expected to include a fairly large scale inner-London consultation exercise, Brent Cross/Cricklewood as well as one focused on Tottenham/Meridian Water... Potentially more than that with scope for some possible outer London exercises. Interesting times ahead and expect we will see some bold changes proposed, especially in inner London. But surely Meridian water and Brent Cross will need additional services so can't see how that will active the 4% reduction. Unless a saving in Tottenham will be pay for an increase in Meridian Water. You are misreading it. It was 4% overall, more like 10% for inner London, and 1% cuts in outer London But there were a handful of development areas where services were expected to be added, which means to get the averages some others were getting bigger cuts. However that plan is over 2 years old, from before the pandemic, usage levels have changed lot more especially regarding central London commuting which is heavily down. |
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Post by evergreenadam on Mar 23, 2022 9:14:17 GMT
Have heard from a number of sources, and indeed today MyLondon published it, that a flurry of bus service consultations are expected towards the "late spring" - these are expected to include a fairly large scale inner-London consultation exercise, Brent Cross/Cricklewood as well as one focused on Tottenham/Meridian Water... Potentially more than that with scope for some possible outer London exercises. Interesting times ahead and expect we will see some bold changes proposed, especially in inner London. Probably not until after the local elections in early May then. |
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