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Post by evergreenadam on Oct 21, 2023 10:40:47 GMT
The 289 will be getting double decked in the new contract so that’s another one off the list. Still plenty more deserving cases.
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Post by evergreenadam on Oct 21, 2023 10:51:45 GMT
The single decker routes with the highest passengers per kilometre (worked out by dividing total passengers by total km operated) are: 355 316 D6 195 H37 (low bridge) 214 W4 W6 C11 (low bridge) 236 283 181 (low bridge) 219 170 (low bridge) 289 325 (low bridge) E6 152 227 (low bridge) 276 (low bridge) Most of these routes that can take DDs would be good candidates for decking, and the routes with low bridges probably need frequency increases instead. Updated 355 316 (resident objections) D6 195 H37 (low bridge) 214 (resident objections/trees?) W4 (tight turns?) W6 C11 (low bridge) 236 283 (tight turn and parked cars on Wormholt Estate) 181 (low bridge) 219 170 (low bridge) 289 (new contract specifies double deckers) 325 (low bridge) E6 152 227 (low bridge) 276 (low bridge) |
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Post by vjaska on Oct 21, 2023 11:02:28 GMT
The single decker routes with the highest passengers per kilometre (worked out by dividing total passengers by total km operated) are: 355 316 D6 195 H37 (low bridge) 214 W4 W6 C11 (low bridge) 236 283 181 (low bridge) 219 170 (low bridge) 289 325 (low bridge) E6 152 227 (low bridge) 276 (low bridge) Most of these routes that can take DDs would be good candidates for decking, and the routes with low bridges probably need frequency increases instead. Updated 355 316 (resident objections) D6 195 H37 (low bridge) 214 (resident objections/trees?) W4 (tight turns?) W6 C11 (low bridge) 236 283 (tight turn and parked cars on Wormholt Estate) 181 (low bridge) 219 170 (low bridge) 289 (new contract specifies double deckers) 325 (low bridge) E6 152 227 (low bridge) 276 (low bridge) The 325 has no low bridge, it’s used T’s previously for a short period |
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Post by abellion on Oct 21, 2023 11:10:13 GMT
The single decker routes with the highest passengers per kilometre (worked out by dividing total passengers by total km operated) are: 355 316 D6 195 H37 (low bridge) 214 W4 W6 C11 (low bridge) 236 283 181 (low bridge) 219 170 (low bridge) 289 325 (low bridge) E6 152 227 (low bridge) 276 (low bridge) Most of these routes that can take DDs would be good candidates for decking, and the routes with low bridges probably need frequency increases instead. Updated 355 316 (resident objections) D6 195 H37 (low bridge) 214 (resident objections/trees?) W4 (tight turns?) W6 C11 (low bridge) 236 283 (tight turn and parked cars on Wormholt Estate) 181 (low bridge) 219 170 (low bridge) 289 (new contract specifies double deckers) 325 (low bridge) E6 152 227 (low bridge) 276 (low bridge) It is slightly unfair to compare the 355 to these other routes, but hopefully the 289 award foreshadows the 355's fate! |
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Post by londonbuses on Oct 21, 2023 14:11:26 GMT
Updated list using 2022/23 usage data: 1) 355 (=) 2) 316 (=) - resident objections 3) 195 (+1) 4) D6 (-1) 5) 214 (+1) 6) H37 (-1) - low bridge 7) 170 (+7) - low bridge 8) C11 (+1) - low bridge 9) 227 (+10) - low bridge 10) W4 (-3) 11) 219 (+2) 12) W6 (-4) 13) 283 (-2) 14) 152 (+4) 15) 236 (-5) 16) 289 (-1) - will be decked soon 17) 181 (-5) - low bridge 18) 46 (+6) - low bridge 19) E6 (-2) 20) 325 (-4) |
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Post by secretbu5dude on Oct 23, 2023 14:42:38 GMT
Updated list using 2022/23 usage data: 1) 355 (=) 2) 316 (=) - resident objections 3) 195 (+1) 4) D6 (-1) 5) 214 (+1) 6) H37 (-1) - low bridge 7) 170 (+7) - low bridge 8) C11 (+1) - low bridge 9) 227 (+10) - low bridge 10) W4 (-3) 11) 219 (+2) 12) W6 (-4) 13) 283 (-2) 14) 152 (+4) 15) 236 (-5) 16) 289 (-1) - will be decked soon 17) 181 (-5) - low bridge 18) 46 (+6) - low bridge 19) E6 (-2) 20) 325 (-4) 95 as an honorable mention? Although the occasion D-decker appears from time to time. |
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Post by northlondon83 on Oct 23, 2023 14:47:37 GMT
Has the U3 and A10 permanently converted to DDs? Especially the former I've seen only DDs lately
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Post by ADH45258 on Oct 23, 2023 15:27:55 GMT
Has the U3 and A10 permanently converted to DDs? Especially the former I've seen only DDs lately I think the U3 has, but the A10 is just temporary awaiting new BZLs entering service elsewhere. |
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Post by evergreenadam on Oct 23, 2023 16:45:20 GMT
Has the U3 and A10 permanently converted to DDs? Especially the former I've seen only DDs lately I think the U3 has, but the A10 is just temporary awaiting new BZLs entering service elsewhere. Does the A10 need double deckers? |
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Post by wirewiper on Oct 23, 2023 17:00:10 GMT
I think the U3 has, but the A10 is just temporary awaiting new BZLs entering service elsewhere. Does the A10 need double deckers? I doubt it. It seems to manage with single deckers even as a low-frequency (20-30 mins) route, if more capacity were needed it would be double-deck or higher frequency. It does have a very early start though - the first bus leaves Uxbridge at 03.30 and arrives Heathrow Central before 04.00. It could almost be a Superloop route given that it runs non-stop between Stockley Park and Heathrow Central. |
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Post by evergreenadam on Oct 23, 2023 18:40:28 GMT
Does the A10 need double deckers? I doubt it. It seems to manage with single deckers even as a low-frequency (20-30 mins) route, if more capacity were needed it would be double-deck or higher frequency. It does have a very early start though - the first bus leaves Uxbridge at 03.30 and arrives Heathrow Central before 04.00. It could almost be a Superloop route given that it runs non-stop between Stockley Park and Heathrow Central. If only they had thought of that in time for the Uxbridge by-election! |
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Post by abellion on Oct 23, 2023 19:41:31 GMT
Has the U3 and A10 permanently converted to DDs? Especially the former I've seen only DDs lately I think the U3 has, but the A10 is just temporary awaiting new BZLs entering service elsewhere. When I rode the U3 on a TE the crowds were easily way too heavy to fit on an SD, crowded top deck and luggage all over the bottom deck. |
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