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Post by LondonExplorer316 on May 18, 2023 6:58:48 GMT
Another route that could be decked is the 232 and I would withdraw from St Raphael's and have it terminate at Brent Park Tesco. I'd then extend the 316 to St Raphael's, the 32 to Paddington and withdraw the 16. The 316 struggles with capacity enough as is so an extension of that route is not the right way to go about it. I wonder if you could maybe extend 440 or something which is less busy into St. Raphael's to allow 232 to be cut back. The 32 to Paddington would be a nice idea, but the 16 should go back to Victoria in that case. |
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Post by LondonExplorer316 on May 18, 2023 7:01:48 GMT
316, always rammed to the door in the peaks, and (less commonly) off-peak. I wonder how you could go about getting 295 diverted. Might post something in the fantasy thread if I get any ideas.
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Post by linus on May 18, 2023 15:41:04 GMT
Get a few residents in the Royal Crescent area diverted. Then deck the 316.
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Post by LondonExplorer316 on May 18, 2023 17:55:59 GMT
Get a few residents in the Royal Crescent area diverted. Then deck the 316. If only they wanted to move haha, although 295 could be diverted if they decide to be stubborn as some of those 57regs on the 318 once were  |
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Post by buspete on May 23, 2023 14:48:27 GMT
Not sure if this is the best thread for this post?
I was crossing Bexleyheath Broadway today to go to my dentist. Now I have seen the B16 as a double decker on many occasions, but very infrequent, I have never seen them on the B11, B12, B13 or B15 - but was shocked to see them today on the B14 about 3:10 going to the Library, I then saw the same bus going down the Broadway the other way out of service.
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Post by enviro498 on May 23, 2023 14:55:50 GMT
Not sure if this is the best thread for this post? I was crossing Bexleyheath Broadway today to go to my dentist. Now I have seen the B16 as a double decker on many occasions, but very infrequent, I have never seen them on the B11, B12, B13 or B15 - but was shocked to see them today on the B14 about 3:10 going to the Library, I then saw the same bus going down the Broadway the other way out of service. A school journey operated by a double decker has been introduced on the B14 between Footscray and Bexleyheath (towards Footscray AM and Bexleyheath PM). |
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Post by buspete on May 24, 2023 12:47:45 GMT
Thanks
Didn’t realise that it was a regular prearranged school journey.
So I take it this is for Cleeve Park School? The 269 that stops nearby does not give enough capacity. Also I assume this doesn’t do the loop around Albany Park?
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Post by twobellstogo on May 24, 2023 13:41:50 GMT
Thanks Didn’t realise that it was a regular prearranged school journey. So I take it this is for Cleeve Park School? The 269 that stops nearby does not give enough capacity. Also I assume this doesn’t do the loop around Albany Park? More that the B14 serves parts that the 269 doesn’t, notably around Danson Park. |
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Post by bustavane on May 24, 2023 16:22:39 GMT
Thanks Didn’t realise that it was a regular prearranged school journey. So I take it this is for Cleeve Park School? The 269 that stops nearby does not give enough capacity. Also I assume this doesn’t do the loop around Albany Park? More that the B14 serves parts that the 269 doesn’t, notably around Danson Park. I don't think this is for Cleeve Park School, but rather for Hurstmere School. It only runs to Foots Cray Lane/Hurst Road and doesn't get to Bexley Lane where Cleeve park is. |
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Post by twobellstogo on May 24, 2023 16:40:11 GMT
More that the B14 serves parts that the 269 doesn’t, notably around Danson Park. I don't think this is for Cleeve Park School, but rather for Hurstmere School. It only runs to Foots Cray Lane/Hurst Road and doesn't get to Bexley Lane where Cleeve park is. Ah - I thought it might have been a 669 compliment. Have to check the colour of the blazers on the bus next time 😂 Thanks for the correction. You seem pretty clued up on local outer south east London stuff  |
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Post by Deleted on May 24, 2023 17:37:41 GMT
With the loads from Southall both ways, I wonder how the 195 is not converted to DDs. According to the document below, the route carried 3.39 million passengers for the 2021-2022 calendar year. If we put that to perspective, 3.39m is more than the number many DD routes handled that year and makes the 195 one of the busiest SD route(s) in London. view.officeapps.live.com/op/view.aspx?src=https%3A%2F%2Fcontent.tfl.gov.uk%2F2022-annual-bus-stats.xlsx&wdOrigin=BROWSELINKOther routes that suffer from capacity issues are the 235, 490 and 493. The 235 suffers heavily between Hounslow and Sunbury after hours and I cannot bare how the route is like during the morning rush hour. Luckily, I don't use the route anymore. The 490 suffers in the peaks between Richmond and Sixth Cross Road. This was not really that much of a issue until the H22 was rerouted, frankly the worst decision TFL made in regards to the Richmond area. Left the route exposed on the busiest section of the route. The 493 most of the time is full from Wimbledon and suffers from excessive bunching. It doesn't help that heavy traffic along East Sheen force buses to terminate short from Richmond. |
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Post by buspete on May 25, 2023 0:22:32 GMT
So with peak frequencies the same as day time generally. I wonder what happens with the school buses generally the 6 number buses when they are done? Interestingly they don’t raise any revenue as school kids get free Oyster Passer?
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Post by londonbuses on May 25, 2023 3:29:42 GMT
The single decker routes with the highest passengers per kilometre (worked out by dividing total passengers by total km operated) are:
355
316
D6
195
H37 (low bridge)
214
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W6
C11 (low bridge)
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283
181 (low bridge)
219
170 (low bridge)
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325 (low bridge)
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227 (low bridge)
276 (low bridge)
Most of these routes that can take DDs would be good candidates for decking, and the routes with low bridges probably need frequency increases instead.
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Post by COBO on May 25, 2023 3:57:52 GMT
The single decker routes with the highest passengers per kilometre (worked out by dividing total passengers by total km operated) are: 355 316 D6 195 H37 (low bridge) 214 W4 W6 C11 (low bridge) 236 283 181 (low bridge) 219 170 (low bridge) 289 325 (low bridge) E6 152 227 (low bridge) 276 (low bridge) Most of these routes that can take DDs would be good candidates for decking, and the routes with low bridges probably need frequency increases instead. When the odd DD appear on the 325 did they do the full route? |
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Post by abellion on May 25, 2023 5:24:44 GMT
The single decker routes with the highest passengers per kilometre (worked out by dividing total passengers by total km operated) are: 355 316 D6 195 H37 (low bridge) 214 W4 W6 C11 (low bridge) 236 283 181 (low bridge) 219 170 (low bridge) 289 325 (low bridge) E6 152 227 (low bridge) 276 (low bridge) Most of these routes that can take DDs would be good candidates for decking, and the routes with low bridges probably need frequency increases instead. The WSs that went to MB should never return to the 355, clearly GAL has no issue supplying a slight double deck allocation. The 219 also has no obvious physical restrictions, even though the last thing Tooting-Wimbledon is getting is an increase the Wandsworth Common stretch can get inconvenienced by large gaps, the 219 would benefit from 164 treatment with a DD every now and again. |
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