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Post by DT 11 on May 25, 2023 7:10:06 GMT
The single decker routes with the highest passengers per kilometre (worked out by dividing total passengers by total km operated) are: 355 316 D6 195 H37 (low bridge) 214 W4 W6 C11 (low bridge) 236 283 181 (low bridge) 219 170 (low bridge) 289 325 (low bridge) E6 152 227 (low bridge) 276 (low bridge) Most of these routes that can take DDs would be good candidates for decking, and the routes with low bridges probably need frequency increases instead. When the odd DD appear on the 325 did they do the full route? Yes they did the entire route. |
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Post by DE20106 on May 25, 2023 7:49:45 GMT
The single decker routes with the highest passengers per kilometre (worked out by dividing total passengers by total km operated) are: 355 316 D6 195 H37 (low bridge) 214 W4 W6 C11 (low bridge) 236 283 181 (low bridge) 219 170 (low bridge) 289 325 (low bridge) E6 152 227 (low bridge) 276 (low bridge) Most of these routes that can take DDs would be good candidates for decking, and the routes with low bridges probably need frequency increases instead. I guess the reason why the 235 isn’t on here is because the overall length of the route ‘thins out’ the extremely high volume of passengers (even though it must have quieter and extremely busy sections), and probably also explains the C10 which is also extremely busy. This is why I think these highest passengers per mile is mostly codswallop 😂 |
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Post by LondonExplorer316 on May 25, 2023 8:16:22 GMT
The single decker routes with the highest passengers per kilometre (worked out by dividing total passengers by total km operated) are: 355 316 D6 195 H37 (low bridge) 214 W4 W6 C11 (low bridge) 236 283 181 (low bridge) 219 170 (low bridge) 289 325 (low bridge) E6 152 227 (low bridge) 276 (low bridge) Most of these routes that can take DDs would be good candidates for decking, and the routes with low bridges probably need frequency increases instead. I personally think a list of the busiest SD routes which can be converted is more helpful as it can compare with existing DD routes which are quieter. |
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Post by abellion on May 25, 2023 15:32:40 GMT
The single decker routes with the highest passengers per kilometre (worked out by dividing total passengers by total km operated) are: 355 316 D6 195 H37 (low bridge) 214 W4 W6 C11 (low bridge) 236 283 181 (low bridge) 219 170 (low bridge) 289 325 (low bridge) E6 152 227 (low bridge) 276 (low bridge) Most of these routes that can take DDs would be good candidates for decking, and the routes with low bridges probably need frequency increases instead. I guess the reason why the 235 isn’t on here is because the overall length of the route ‘thins out’ the extremely high volume of passengers (even though it must have quieter and extremely busy sections), and probably also explains the C10 which is also extremely busy. This is why I think these highest passengers per mile is mostly codswallop 😂 It is somewhat helpful to see proportions of passengers. The 57 is the busiest route in a lot of areas it passes but it’s obviously because of how long it is, if the 131 took the Clapham end it would absolutely overtake. |
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Post by londonbuses on May 25, 2023 17:58:03 GMT
It is somewhat helpful to see proportions of passengers. The 57 is the busiest route in a lot of areas it passes but it’s obviously because of how long it is, if the 131 took the Clapham end it would absolutely overtake. Very true, the 131 actually has by far the highest passengers per km of any route in both Kingston and Merton boroughs, which is why I disagree with anyone who says reducing the 131 to 6bph would have been better than reducing the 57 to 5bph (that shouldn't have been done either but reducing the 131 would be even worse). |
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Post by DE20106 on May 25, 2023 19:29:40 GMT
It is somewhat helpful to see proportions of passengers. The 57 is the busiest route in a lot of areas it passes but it’s obviously because of how long it is, if the 131 took the Clapham end it would absolutely overtake. Very true, the 131 actually has by far the highest passengers per km of any route in both Kingston and Merton boroughs, which is why I disagree with anyone who says reducing the 131 to 6bph would have been better than reducing the 57 to 5bph (that shouldn't have been done either but reducing the 131 would be even worse). I never knew that about the 131!!! I thought I knew everything there was to know about that route 😂😂 |
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Post by evergreenadam on Aug 31, 2023 7:04:10 GMT
Route 203 is to be converted to double deck operation from 2nd September according to LondonBusRoutes.net
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Post by elshad on Sept 10, 2023 1:35:49 GMT
Route 203 is to be converted to double deck operation from 2nd September according to LondonBusRoutes.net Another Citaro route gone… becoming rarer and rarer  |
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Post by Green Kitten on Sept 10, 2023 7:31:06 GMT
Route 203 is to be converted to double deck operation from 2nd September according to LondonBusRoutes.net Another Citaro route gone… becoming rarer and rarer A shame really. Only the 117 left as the 108’s conversion is imminent (must take a ride beforehand, I live close to one end so no excuse!) A route like the 112 could really suit them (dependent on tight turns) |
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Post by DE20106 on Sept 10, 2023 7:37:51 GMT
Another Citaro route gone… becoming rarer and rarer A shame really. Only the 117 left as the 108’s conversion is imminent (must take a ride beforehand, I live close to one end so no excuse!) A route like the 112 could really suit them (dependent on tight turns) Citaros are famed for having brilliant turning circles, I’m sure 12m Citaros could have fit just as well on many 10.9 SD routes because of it. Obviously width could be an issue though |
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Post by evergreenadam on Sept 10, 2023 8:20:01 GMT
Another Citaro route gone… becoming rarer and rarer A shame really. Only the 117 left as the 108’s conversion is imminent (must take a ride beforehand, I live close to one end so no excuse!) A route like the 112 could really suit them (dependent on tight turns) They are not great on the 117 in terms of seating capacity and layout. The group of 4 facing seats at the front is not particularly comfortable. |
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Post by busboy17 on Sept 10, 2023 12:13:35 GMT
Another Citaro route gone… becoming rarer and rarer A shame really. Only the 117 left as the 108’s conversion is imminent (must take a ride beforehand, I live close to one end so no excuse!) A route like the 112 could really suit them (dependent on tight turns) But isn't the 108 only reciting a half allocation of the SEe's |
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Post by southlondon413 on Sept 10, 2023 12:19:48 GMT
A shame really. Only the 117 left as the 108’s conversion is imminent (must take a ride beforehand, I live close to one end so no excuse!) A route like the 112 could really suit them (dependent on tight turns) But isn't the 108 only reciting a half allocation of the SEe's Pretty sure it is taking a full allocation of SEe. |
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Post by bustavane on Sept 10, 2023 17:21:44 GMT
A shame really. Only the 117 left as the 108’s conversion is imminent (must take a ride beforehand, I live close to one end so no excuse!) A route like the 112 could really suit them (dependent on tight turns) But isn't the 108 only reciting a half allocation of the SEe's If this was the case, what would fill the other half? MECs ex358? |
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Post by Busboy105 on Sept 10, 2023 21:38:25 GMT
But isn't the 108 only reciting a half allocation of the SEe's If this was the case, what would fill the other half? MECs ex358? The 358 MECs will probably leave London when the electrics come |
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