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Post by wirewiper on Oct 2, 2021 9:07:06 GMT
Hilarious  It's like when you hope you see a bus to get home approaching in the distance, but as it gets closer, it turns out to be a Royal Mail truck  (I seem to have lost my glasses) Last fuel crisis in 2001, the kind people at First let me buy £30 worth at Greenford Depot. I might try to syphon some fuel out of one of the dead 318 buses at Tottenham later if things get desperate www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10050749/Soldiers-start-delivering-petrol-UK-forecourts-Monday.htmlWe might be queuing for food next  Of someone had mentioned in 2019 that the next 2 years would be spent in dealing with a pandemic / stocking up T-roll / petrol, he / she would have been laughed out of the way Until not so long ago we WERE queuing for food, although that was about restricting numbers in enclosed spaces rather than any shortages. I wonder if there is any contingency plan for issuing ration books for certain items, and if so whether it would ever need to be deployed. |
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Post by greenboy on Oct 2, 2021 10:02:55 GMT
Of someone had mentioned in 2019 that the next 2 years would be spent in dealing with a pandemic / stocking up T-roll / petrol, he / she would have been laughed out of the way Until not so long ago we WERE queuing for food, although that was about restricting numbers in enclosed spaces rather than any shortages. I wonder if there is any contingency plan for issuing ration books for certain items, and if so whether it would ever need to be deployed. People really need to stop listening to media scaremongering, for example LBC are predicting flooding, travel disruption and power outages this weekend on their Facebook page. Likewise the 'flag down a bus' advice from the Met has been twisted at every turn. |
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Post by vjaska on Oct 2, 2021 10:06:17 GMT
Until not so long ago we WERE queuing for food, although that was about restricting numbers in enclosed spaces rather than any shortages. I wonder if there is any contingency plan for issuing ration books for certain items, and if so whether it would ever need to be deployed. People really need to stop listening to media scaremongering, for example LBC are predicting flooding, travel disruption and power outages this weekend on their Facebook page. No doubt there is media scaremongering going on as there always is an element of that happening but let's also be fair, any supporter of this government would say that - after all, you cannot refute 100% of the claims made in these stories because inevitably, some will actually be correct. |
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Post by ronnie on Oct 2, 2021 10:30:11 GMT
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Post by southlondon413 on Oct 2, 2021 12:07:29 GMT
People really need to stop listening to media scaremongering, for example LBC are predicting flooding, travel disruption and power outages this weekend on their Facebook page. No doubt there is media scaremongering going on as there always is an element of that happening but let's also be fair, any supporter of this government would say that - after all, you cannot refute 100% of the claims made in these stories because inevitably, some will actually be correct. You don’t have to support the government to see that the media has been the root of the problems in this nation and frankly the world for the last two decades, ever since 9/11. Furthermore since the rise of clickbait journalism we have seen what were formerly reputable news sources including the BBC fall into this trap of sensationalist stories. I would agree that some stories like George Floyd, regardless of opinion, need to be sensationalised a bit things like COVID, petrol stations, zika etc don’t and they should just report the facts. The fact is we only to made to the point in the “fuel crisis” where the government is having to send in the army because the media effectively caused this mass panic with their misrepresentation of the facts. I am in no way saying that the army couldn’t have been utilised at some point in the near future but the media’s sensationalism forced their hand. Personally I wouldn’t blame any government, regardless of political party, faced with the scum that is the British mainstream media and their clickbait sensationalism. |
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Post by greenboy on Oct 2, 2021 12:41:53 GMT
No doubt there is media scaremongering going on as there always is an element of that happening but let's also be fair, any supporter of this government would say that - after all, you cannot refute 100% of the claims made in these stories because inevitably, some will actually be correct. You don’t have to support the government to see that the media has been the root of the problems in this nation and frankly the world for the last two decades, ever since 9/11. Furthermore since the rise of clickbait journalism we have seen what were formerly reputable news sources including the BBC fall into this trap of sensationalist stories. I would agree that some stories like George Floyd, regardless of opinion, need to be sensationalised a bit things like COVID, petrol stations, zika etc don’t and they should just report the facts. The fact is we only to made to the point in the “fuel crisis” where the government is having to send in the army because the media effectively caused this mass panic with their misrepresentation of the facts. I am in no way saying that the army couldn’t have been utilised at some point in the near future but the media’s sensationalism forced their hand. Personally I wouldn’t blame any government, regardless of political party, faced with the scum that is the British mainstream media and their clickbait sensationalism. Exactly and it's the same about everything and the Sarah Everard murder is the latest thing. Obviously what happened was terrible and there are quite understandable concerns but the media are just playing on these concerns and trying to undermine the police, the mayor, the government and any other form of authority at every opportunity. |
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Post by WH241 on Oct 2, 2021 13:48:22 GMT
Very off topic but can't believe it's being suggested the media is playing up about Sarah Everard!
Meanwhile it's gridlocked in east London with garages closed like last weekend.
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Post by southlondon413 on Oct 2, 2021 14:04:00 GMT
You don’t have to support the government to see that the media has been the root of the problems in this nation and frankly the world for the last two decades, ever since 9/11. Furthermore since the rise of clickbait journalism we have seen what were formerly reputable news sources including the BBC fall into this trap of sensationalist stories. I would agree that some stories like George Floyd, regardless of opinion, need to be sensationalised a bit things like COVID, petrol stations, zika etc don’t and they should just report the facts. The fact is we only to made to the point in the “fuel crisis” where the government is having to send in the army because the media effectively caused this mass panic with their misrepresentation of the facts. I am in no way saying that the army couldn’t have been utilised at some point in the near future but the media’s sensationalism forced their hand. Personally I wouldn’t blame any government, regardless of political party, faced with the scum that is the British mainstream media and their clickbait sensationalism. Exactly and it's the same about everything and the Sarah Everard murder is the latest thing. Obviously what happened was terrible and there are quite understandable concerns but the media are just playing on these concerns and trying to undermine the police, the mayor, the government and any other form of authority at every opportunity. Please don’t twist my words and make them about Sarah Everard. What happened to her was horrible and I honestly believe the commissioner and the Met should absolutely be held accountable by the media for the failings that lead to her murder. We as the public, regardless of gender, race or sexual preference, should have absolute faith that the police can be trusted. It is right that the media is questioning the failings and asking for reforms on behalf of the public to ensure this could never happen again. |
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Post by greenboy on Oct 2, 2021 14:23:49 GMT
Exactly and it's the same about everything and the Sarah Everard murder is the latest thing. Obviously what happened was terrible and there are quite understandable concerns but the media are just playing on these concerns and trying to undermine the police, the mayor, the government and any other form of authority at every opportunity. Please don’t twist my words and make them about Sarah Everard. What happened to her was horrible and I honestly believe the commissioner and the Met should absolutely be held accountable by the media for the failings that lead to her murder. We as the public, regardless of gender, race or sexual preference, should have absolute faith that the police can be trusted. It is right that the media is questioning the failings and asking for reforms on behalf of the public to ensure this could never happen again. It's not my intention to twist anything, I mentioned Sarah not you. For me this is the latest thing that the media are using to scaremonger, if you think otherwise that's fine. Obviously questions need to be asked but that's not the same thing as blatant scaremongering and trying to undermine public confidence. Anyway getting back to petrol, the problem seems far worse in the south east. |
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Post by WH241 on Oct 2, 2021 16:50:08 GMT
From comments online it seems the petrol shortage is mainly in the south east of England. Makes sense really with the lack of fuel stations especially in London.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 2, 2021 19:22:50 GMT
This nonsense needs to end, it is completely ruining our services. I spent 3 days trying to get diesel for my car. In the end has to get up at 5am to go get some sat in a queue for 37 minutes and whilst watching others I realised that people were moving on from the pumps rather quickly however none had Jerry cans. By the time I got to the pumps the person that was at that particular pump bwfor more topped up £6 of diesel!! So clearly already had nearly a full tank. Now the amount of diesel wasted travelling to the petrol station, queuing up then travelling back is probbaly £4 worth. Honestly some are so selfish. That person that topped up £6 is typical of the ass holes that are still going almost every few days now to make sure they are full to the brim. Really boils my blood at the shear stupidity of some people. It would not surprise me that it would have been the same person to buy a diesel SUV to drive 2 miles every odd day, so would never see the benefit over a petrol engine. Or have their engine running at idle for minutes and see nothing wrong with it. The sad thing is that the idiots who fill up so little will end up wasting the petrol they bought driving home  |
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Post by dashing0ne on Oct 3, 2021 9:37:05 GMT
Please don’t twist my words and make them about Sarah Everard. What happened to her was horrible and I honestly believe the commissioner and the Met should absolutely be held accountable by the media for the failings that lead to her murder. We as the public, regardless of gender, race or sexual preference, should have absolute faith that the police can be trusted. It is right that the media is questioning the failings and asking for reforms on behalf of the public to ensure this could never happen again. It's not my intention to twist anything, I mentioned Sarah not you. For me this is the latest thing that the media are using to scaremonger, if you think otherwise that's fine. Obviously questions need to be asked but that's not the same thing as blatant scaremongering and trying to undermine public confidence. Anyway getting back to petrol, the problem seems far worse in the south east. Sarah Everard's murder was horrific and my condolences. But if we think about the media could've kept a bit more quiet about these things and fuelling public anger, then we could have avoided fuel crisis and so many protests, for example I support BLM in the way that we are all equal and that all lives matter whether white, black, brown, Asian or blue with red spots but whilst thankfully the UK we avoided much of the chaos, what we saw in the USA was chaotic, shocking and don't want to sound rude or anything but in some cases unacceptable and not peaceful. If a protest is small calm and orderly I don't mind but huge disruption vandalising stores, burning cars, forcing white people to knee. If the media didn't constantly say about not enough food in the pandemic the hard working nurses could've had dinner. I honestly do think that if the media can just be a bit quieter we could avoid so many problems... |
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Post by LondonNorthern on Oct 3, 2021 11:19:07 GMT
It's not my intention to twist anything, I mentioned Sarah not you. For me this is the latest thing that the media are using to scaremonger, if you think otherwise that's fine. Obviously questions need to be asked but that's not the same thing as blatant scaremongering and trying to undermine public confidence. Anyway getting back to petrol, the problem seems far worse in the south east. Sarah Everard's murder was horrific and my condolences. But if we think about the media could've kept a bit more quiet about these things and fuelling public anger, then we could have avoided fuel crisis and so many protests, for example I support BLM in the way that we are all equal and that all lives matter whether white, black, brown, Asian or blue with red spots but whilst thankfully the UK we avoided much of the chaos, what we saw in the USA was chaotic, shocking and don't want to sound rude or anything but in some cases unacceptable and not peaceful. If a protest is small calm and orderly I don't mind but huge disruption vandalising stores, burning cars, forcing white people to knee. If the media didn't constantly say about not enough food in the pandemic the hard working nurses could've had dinner. I honestly do think that if the media can just be a bit quieter we could avoid so many problems... Problem is fear sells and it's been like this for years.
Journalists have been f**kwits for years to put it bluntly, Piers Morgan, John Sweeney etc. I also don't think shows like Loose Women (that show angers me!) also help that much.
You're spot on about BLM, I honestly can't stand them. Black lives matter and it's always been something I've thought, as an individual I've always tried to be inclusive and respect absolutely everyone no matter about their race. However I myself understand there is a problem with racism amongst other people and that it is adamant that we try and tackle these issues but not by damaging public property, some of which could perhaps belong to people who are not racist and who are in fact generally nice people. I think XR, Insulate Britain & BLM protests need tougher policing because it's absolutely ridiculous London being clogged up but also that it shows them that they can have a tantrum and suddenly they get given protest space and get their own way.
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Post by WH241 on Oct 3, 2021 11:48:04 GMT
It's not my intention to twist anything, I mentioned Sarah not you. For me this is the latest thing that the media are using to scaremonger, if you think otherwise that's fine. Obviously questions need to be asked but that's not the same thing as blatant scaremongering and trying to undermine public confidence. Anyway getting back to petrol, the problem seems far worse in the south east. Sarah Everard's murder was horrific and my condolences. But if we think about the media could've kept a bit more quiet about these things and fuelling public anger, then we could have avoided fuel crisis and so many protests, for example I support BLM in the way that we are all equal and that all lives matter whether white, black, brown, Asian or blue with red spots but whilst thankfully the UK we avoided much of the chaos, what we saw in the USA was chaotic, shocking and don't want to sound rude or anything but in some cases unacceptable and not peaceful. If a protest is small calm and orderly I don't mind but huge disruption vandalising stores, burning cars, forcing white people to knee. If the media didn't constantly say about not enough food in the pandemic the hard working nurses could've had dinner. I honestly do think that if the media can just be a bit quieter we could avoid so many problems... I know the forum loves to bash the media but worries me a little if people think the media should have kept quite about a serving police officer murdering someone! People should be asking questions about the Met Police especially as its come to light about a WhatsApp group sharing discriminatory messages amongst officer's. The advice from police about flagging down buses for assistance is also rather poor! |
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Post by LondonNorthern on Oct 3, 2021 11:56:10 GMT
Sarah Everard's murder was horrific and my condolences. But if we think about the media could've kept a bit more quiet about these things and fuelling public anger, then we could have avoided fuel crisis and so many protests, for example I support BLM in the way that we are all equal and that all lives matter whether white, black, brown, Asian or blue with red spots but whilst thankfully the UK we avoided much of the chaos, what we saw in the USA was chaotic, shocking and don't want to sound rude or anything but in some cases unacceptable and not peaceful. If a protest is small calm and orderly I don't mind but huge disruption vandalising stores, burning cars, forcing white people to knee. If the media didn't constantly say about not enough food in the pandemic the hard working nurses could've had dinner. I honestly do think that if the media can just be a bit quieter we could avoid so many problems... I know the forum loves to bash the media but worries me a little if people think the media should have kept quite about a serving police officer murdering someone! People should be asking questions about the Met Police especially as its come to light about a WhatsApp group sharing discriminatory messages amongst officer's. The advice from police about flagging down buses for assistance is also rather poor! Nobody suggested that the media should've kept quiet about a police officer murdering someone (at least I don't think so) but I think everyone is bashing the media because of how much they overexaggerated other issues such as the fuel shortage which caused this problem.
I would hope the Met enact on the WhatsApp group chat because even though its not on their grounds it's a toxic environment and I would hope they lecture officers on social media if this is becoming a problem.
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It's like when you hope you see a bus to get home approaching in the distance, but as it gets closer, it turns out to be a Royal Mail truck 
(I seem to have lost my glasses)
