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Post by southlondon413 on Feb 16, 2023 8:50:19 GMT
Also, TfL are deliberately hiding these LTNs from being highlighted on Google Maps or any navigation tool as they work hand in glove with greedy councils. Got a ticket in Hammersmith & Fulham's Hurlingham Estate when Google Maps directed me down there from Parson's Green in an effort to reach Townmead Rd (where the C3 bus turns off Wandsworth Bridge Rd). Ironic that Khan doesn't use the TfL network except for photo opportunities (such as posing on the new CAF DLR trains), and prefers his gas guzzling Range Rover Vogue V8 and police detail. Would love to see ULEZ taken down along with these cash cow LTNs. It's one of the main reasons I am quitting driving in London for work as they've destroyed the city  "It's one of the main reasons I am quitting driving in London for work as they've destroyed the city"
It worked, then.
I think you’re missing the point that if everyone who lives in the borders takes that view then London is poorer. For example if I was living in Woking or Guildford and driving into Kingston for work and I was affected I would seek to move jobs to be closer to home outside the TfL zone. So these towns over the border where people commute by car into the TfL zone just grow but the border towns within TfL zones suffer with lost jobs and growth. It might seem like a small issue but when coupled with Khans plan to have the Met target more speeding fines it seems like London is just going to go backwards. But don’t worry Khan will just blame it on the government as he usually does. |
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Post by southlondon413 on Feb 16, 2023 20:24:31 GMT
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Post by ronnie on Feb 16, 2023 20:49:22 GMT
Excellent, hope ULEZ expansion gets thrown out and the guy gets booted out soon after |
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Post by ServerKing on Feb 16, 2023 21:01:51 GMT
Also, TfL are deliberately hiding these LTNs from being highlighted on Google Maps or any navigation tool as they work hand in glove with greedy councils. Got a ticket in Hammersmith & Fulham's Hurlingham Estate when Google Maps directed me down there from Parson's Green in an effort to reach Townmead Rd (where the C3 bus turns off Wandsworth Bridge Rd). Ironic that Khan doesn't use the TfL network except for photo opportunities (such as posing on the new CAF DLR trains), and prefers his gas guzzling Range Rover Vogue V8 and police detail. Would love to see ULEZ taken down along with these cash cow LTNs. It's one of the main reasons I am quitting driving in London for work as they've destroyed the city "It's one of the main reasons I am quitting driving in London for work as they've destroyed the city" It worked, then.
Don't try to be a smart arse. It's hard to drive through constant roadworks, often unattended, without being fleeced £65 by greedy councils in a money making wheeze. Khan doesn't care about pollution, these are stealth taxes to rake in money, despite getting support from central government. If he cared, road speeds would be reasonable and traffic would flow better. He's too busy on other projects. As a driver of a hybrid car with very low emissions at the tailpipe, using the car as part of my work to support my family is different than using it for fun. If I was to go on the bus, the bus will sit in the same roadworks I experienced as a driver. It will hardly encourage people out of cars and onto public transport. I carry computer parts which requires a vehicle as a mobile engineer so bus or train not an option. It will get worse, if he's not subject to court action by other councils resisting the expansion... |
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Post by wirewiper on Feb 17, 2023 8:37:31 GMT
"It's one of the main reasons I am quitting driving in London for work as they've destroyed the city" It worked, then.
Don't try to be a smart arse. It's hard to drive through constant roadworks, often unattended, without being fleeced £65 by greedy councils in a money making wheeze. Khan doesn't care about pollution, these are stealth taxes to rake in money, despite getting support from central government. If he cared, road speeds would be reasonable and traffic would flow better. He's too busy on other projects. As a driver of a hybrid car with very low emissions at the tailpipe, using the car as part of my work to support my family is different than using it for fun. If I was to go on the bus, the bus will sit in the same roadworks I experienced as a driver. It will hardly encourage people out of cars and onto public transport. I carry computer parts which requires a vehicle as a mobile engineer so bus or train not an option. It will get worse, if he's not subject to court action by other councils resisting the expansion... Am I missing something? Surely if you drive a hybrid car with low tailpipe emissions, you would not be affected by the proposed ULEZ? |
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Post by vjaska on Feb 17, 2023 12:43:12 GMT
"It's one of the main reasons I am quitting driving in London for work as they've destroyed the city" It worked, then.
Don't try to be a smart arse. It's hard to drive through constant roadworks, often unattended, without being fleeced £65 by greedy councils in a money making wheeze. Khan doesn't care about pollution, these are stealth taxes to rake in money, despite getting support from central government. If he cared, road speeds would be reasonable and traffic would flow better. He's too busy on other projects. As a driver of a hybrid car with very low emissions at the tailpipe, using the car as part of my work to support my family is different than using it for fun. If I was to go on the bus, the bus will sit in the same roadworks I experienced as a driver. It will hardly encourage people out of cars and onto public transport. I carry computer parts which requires a vehicle as a mobile engineer so bus or train not an option. It will get worse, if he's not subject to court action by other councils resisting the expansion... Two things I want to pick up on: 1) Whilst councils are in general garbage, I also understand the position they’re in given they’ve had 13 years of cuts to their budget. It doesn’t make it right but I do think people forget this detail and most of us are fortunate we aren’t in the three councils who are bankrupt especially Croydon where the council tax is going up by 15% 2) Support from central government doesn’t scratch the surface. Central government could not give two hoots about London as shown over the last 4-5 years as shown by its focus on the north |
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Post by SILENCED on Feb 17, 2023 12:52:47 GMT
Don't try to be a smart arse. It's hard to drive through constant roadworks, often unattended, without being fleeced £65 by greedy councils in a money making wheeze. Khan doesn't care about pollution, these are stealth taxes to rake in money, despite getting support from central government. If he cared, road speeds would be reasonable and traffic would flow better. He's too busy on other projects. As a driver of a hybrid car with very low emissions at the tailpipe, using the car as part of my work to support my family is different than using it for fun. If I was to go on the bus, the bus will sit in the same roadworks I experienced as a driver. It will hardly encourage people out of cars and onto public transport. I carry computer parts which requires a vehicle as a mobile engineer so bus or train not an option. It will get worse, if he's not subject to court action by other councils resisting the expansion... Two things I want to pick up on: 1) Whilst councils are in general garbage, I also understand the position they’re in given they’ve had 13 years of cuts to their budget. It doesn’t make it right but I do think people forget this detail and most of us are fortunate we aren’t in the three councils who are bankrupt especially Croydon where the council tax is going up by 15% 2) Support from central government doesn’t scratch the surface. Central government could not give two hoots about London as shown over the last 4-5 years as shown by its focus on the north One thing I did not really appreciate until a few months ago was the difference in the central government settlement rates between inner and outer London boroughs. Why should Croydon get a lower rate than Lambeth and Southwark etc? This has been going on for years, so been a policy of both Labour and Conservatives. Inner London is probably better off than some parts of outer London these days! |
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Post by vjaska on Feb 17, 2023 14:40:41 GMT
Two things I want to pick up on: 1) Whilst councils are in general garbage, I also understand the position they’re in given they’ve had 13 years of cuts to their budget. It doesn’t make it right but I do think people forget this detail and most of us are fortunate we aren’t in the three councils who are bankrupt especially Croydon where the council tax is going up by 15% 2) Support from central government doesn’t scratch the surface. Central government could not give two hoots about London as shown over the last 4-5 years as shown by its focus on the north One thing I did not really appreciate until a few months ago was the difference in the central government settlement rates between inner and outer London boroughs. Why should Croydon get a lower rate than Lambeth and Southwark etc? This has been going on for years, so been a policy of both Labour and Conservatives. Inner London is probably better off than some parts of outer London these days! Inner London is certainly not better off just because the council might get a better settlement rate - Lambeth is very expensive to live in regardless. |
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Post by ServerKing on Feb 17, 2023 20:58:27 GMT
Don't try to be a smart arse. It's hard to drive through constant roadworks, often unattended, without being fleeced £65 by greedy councils in a money making wheeze. Khan doesn't care about pollution, these are stealth taxes to rake in money, despite getting support from central government. If he cared, road speeds would be reasonable and traffic would flow better. He's too busy on other projects. As a driver of a hybrid car with very low emissions at the tailpipe, using the car as part of my work to support my family is different than using it for fun. If I was to go on the bus, the bus will sit in the same roadworks I experienced as a driver. It will hardly encourage people out of cars and onto public transport. I carry computer parts which requires a vehicle as a mobile engineer so bus or train not an option. It will get worse, if he's not subject to court action by other councils resisting the expansion... Am I missing something? Surely if you drive a hybrid car with low tailpipe emissions, you would not be affected by the proposed ULEZ? The car aspect is okay, but being ambushed by cameras taking £65 out of your pocket by matter of travelling from A to B (if satnav directs), plus roadworks, traffic, 20 zones, makes things quite intolerable. Electric cars are to be charged the Congestion Charge soon, it's only a matter of time before we get charged for the air we breathe   |
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Post by northlondon83 on Feb 17, 2023 23:26:25 GMT
Am I missing something? Surely if you drive a hybrid car with low tailpipe emissions, you would not be affected by the proposed ULEZ? The car aspect is okay, but being ambushed by cameras taking £65 out of your pocket by matter of travelling from A to B (if satnav directs), plus roadworks, traffic, 20 zones, makes things quite intolerable. Electric cars are to be charged the Congestion Charge soon, it's only a matter of time before we get charged for the air we breathe obviously this issue isn't applicable to everyone because some people need to drive like yourself, but surely some people could ditch their car and switch to greener methods of transport like trains and bikes |
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Post by vjaska on Feb 18, 2023 0:34:39 GMT
The car aspect is okay, but being ambushed by cameras taking £65 out of your pocket by matter of travelling from A to B (if satnav directs), plus roadworks, traffic, 20 zones, makes things quite intolerable. Electric cars are to be charged the Congestion Charge soon, it's only a matter of time before we get charged for the air we breathe obviously this issue isn't applicable to everyone because some people need to drive like yourself, but surely some people could ditch their car and switch to greener methods of transport like trains and bikes Yes some absolutely could - these are generally people who aren't like ServerKing or my own brother who have jobs that can only be realistically be done via car or other people where their health situation requires a car but there are many car users who aren't in the same situation as those mentioned and who could easily switch to other forms. |
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Post by ServerKing on Feb 18, 2023 4:39:19 GMT
The car aspect is okay, but being ambushed by cameras taking £65 out of your pocket by matter of travelling from A to B (if satnav directs), plus roadworks, traffic, 20 zones, makes things quite intolerable. Electric cars are to be charged the Congestion Charge soon, it's only a matter of time before we get charged for the air we breathe obviously this issue isn't applicable to everyone because some people need to drive like yourself, but surely some people could ditch their car and switch to greener methods of transport like trains and bikes Starting a new role soon as the getting in and out of a car and going from hot to cold environments is making me pick up colds, the way Spurs' Cristian Romero picks up yellow cards for fouls  I will be on "Shank's Pony" (walking) once getting the Overground to Liverpool Street and a short walk to the office. There might be work in regional offices, perhaps on a trip to Newcastle I might get to ride an Arriva Northeast Pulsar to see if they get thrashed like I've seen on most YouTube videos I was watching a video of the first DAF DB250s on the 85 and 221 in 1998, and thought how much freer traffic flowed at 30 before all these self inflicted Covid Cycle Lanes, semi pedestrianised narrow streets, and endless roadworks have clogged London's "Arteries", making a simple journey by bus intolerable. You didn't want to be on Holborn Kingsway yesterday as virtually every bus was caught up in the roadworks. Ended up leaving the car near The Strand and walked up to a customer on Theobalds Road / Bloomsbury Square. The Mayor has to tackle these Utilities holding the City to ransom, surely contractors can do roadworks overnight (and offer good rates of pay to workers for imnentives)? I can't see 20 zones going but it would be nice if the buses could just go and not sat there bumper to bumper with the glut of Kia Niro minicabs or plush Mercedes chauffeurs? Those who do drive in London don't do it for fun, they can look forward to eye watering parking charges (ie Old Burlington car park in Mayfair can charge up to £47 for 4 hours  ) once they get to their destination. Sadiq Khan is asleep at the switch as with most issues including gang crime, stabbings etc... something's gotta give. Outer London is slightly better, you can still get DB300 thrash on a 123 to Ilford, or a decent ride along the A10 on a 318 (E200 Darts might get a telegram from the King due to their age shortly before their withdrawal ) but I fear lower speed may be enforced here as well  |
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Post by WH241 on Feb 18, 2023 9:59:39 GMT
The car aspect is okay, but being ambushed by cameras taking £65 out of your pocket by matter of travelling from A to B (if satnav directs), plus roadworks, traffic, 20 zones, makes things quite intolerable. Electric cars are to be charged the Congestion Charge soon, it's only a matter of time before we get charged for the air we breathe obviously this issue isn't applicable to everyone because some people need to drive like yourself, but surely some people could ditch their car and switch to greener methods of transport like trains and bikes Surely it should be a personal choice if you drive or not? I don't think people should be forced to switch. I would be very reluctant to give up my car as I value the fact its there when I need it.
I understand the green argument but still think it should be a choice and not forced with schemes like ULEZ and road closures. I feel for people in places like Hackney which has pretty much become a no car borough.
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Post by ServerKing on Feb 18, 2023 11:53:58 GMT
obviously this issue isn't applicable to everyone because some people need to drive like yourself, but surely some people could ditch their car and switch to greener methods of transport like trains and bikes Surely it should be a personal choice if you drive or not? I don't think people should be forced to switch. I would be very reluctant to give up my car as I value the fact its there when I need it.
I understand the green argument but still think it should be a choice and not forced with schemes like ULEZ and road closures. I feel for people in places like Hackney which has pretty much become a no car borough.
I used to live in Hackney... before you'd fear vandals damaging your car, now you fear the council and police speed cameras move too quickly = points. Move into wrong area = fines I don't blame these inner London councils strapped for cash as central government has reduced their funding, but they just need to be honest with everyone. Mrs works for Islington and says Parking is their biggest earner make of that what you will |
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Post by SILENCED on Feb 18, 2023 12:01:19 GMT
Surely it should be a personal choice if you drive or not? I don't think people should be forced to switch. I would be very reluctant to give up my car as I value the fact its there when I need it.
I understand the green argument but still think it should be a choice and not forced with schemes like ULEZ and road closures. I feel for people in places like Hackney which has pretty much become a no car borough.
I used to live in Hackney... before you'd fear vandals damaging your car, now you fear the council and police speed cameras move too quickly = points. Move into wrong area = fines I don't blame these inner London councils strapped for cash as central government has reduced their funding, but they just need to be honest with everyone. Mrs works for Islington and says Parking is their biggest earner make of that what you will In Sydney you get issued with a pass that allows you to park free anywhere in the same borough ... well at least in my mates one. Rip off Britain. |
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I will be on "Shank's Pony" (walking) once getting the Overground to Liverpool Street and a short walk to the office. There might be work in regional offices, perhaps on a trip to Newcastle I might get to ride an Arriva Northeast Pulsar to see if they get thrashed like I've seen on most YouTube videos 
) once they get to their destination. 
