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Post by COBO on May 1, 2023 20:35:41 GMT
Withdraw route 148 between Shepherds Bush Green and White City Bus Station. Carries fresh air and gets stuck in traffic on Wood Lane, the route is already long and unreliable enough without this pointless section tagged on. the only good thing about the 148 going to White City is that it’s that there no buses standing on the Green blocking the bus stops. |
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Post by matthieu1221 on May 1, 2023 21:08:07 GMT
Withdraw route 148 between Shepherds Bush Green and White City Bus Station. Carries fresh air and gets stuck in traffic on Wood Lane, the route is already long and unreliable enough without this pointless section tagged on. Is there any reason why it doesn't head under Westfield like some other routes? |
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Post by southlondonbus on May 1, 2023 21:31:00 GMT
Withdraw route 148 between Shepherds Bush Green and White City Bus Station. Carries fresh air and gets stuck in traffic on Wood Lane, the route is already long and unreliable enough without this pointless section tagged on. Is there any reason why it doesn't head under Westfield like some other routes? To share a common stop with the 94 on Shepherd's Bush Green and help it out on the stretch to Marble Arch. |
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Post by LondonNorthern on May 1, 2023 22:45:48 GMT
Is there any reason why it doesn't head under Westfield like some other routes? To share a common stop with the 94 on Shepherd's Bush Green and help it out on the stretch to Marble Arch. Surely it would be more sensible to then stand it in Shepherds Bush Garage? |
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Post by vjaska on May 1, 2023 23:46:35 GMT
Withdraw route 148 between Shepherds Bush Green and White City Bus Station. Carries fresh air and gets stuck in traffic on Wood Lane, the route is already long and unreliable enough without this pointless section tagged on. Or run it via the other routes that head to White City which removes the traffic issue entirely if it must go to the bus station. Everything practically carries few people to the bus station anyway with the exception of the other Wood Lane routes |
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Post by COBO on May 2, 2023 0:44:27 GMT
To share a common stop with the 94 on Shepherd's Bush Green and help it out on the stretch to Marble Arch. Surely it would be more sensible to then stand it in Shepherds Bush Garage? It would but they don’t always most of the time they end up standing on the bus stops. |
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Post by evergreenadam on Oct 11, 2023 8:03:10 GMT
Route 196 never seems to be particularly well used between Vauxhall and Elephant whenever I have seen it. Kennington Lane certainly needs a bus service but maybe this is the wrong route?
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Post by greenboy on Oct 11, 2023 9:46:52 GMT
Route 196 never seems to be particularly well used between Vauxhall and Elephant whenever I have seen it. Kennington Lane certainly needs a bus service but maybe this is the wrong route? That's a good point and I wonder whether rerouting the 53 to Vauxhall or even Battersea Power Station would be beneficial for SE/SW London travel? |
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Post by vjaska on Oct 11, 2023 11:42:57 GMT
Route 196 never seems to be particularly well used between Vauxhall and Elephant whenever I have seen it. Kennington Lane certainly needs a bus service but maybe this is the wrong route? There isn’t really a better placed route to run along there - remove the 196 and something else that runs along the same routing from at least as far as Stockwell would be needed given the demand for school and shopping. The 196 was a far better choice than the 322 was which was overcrowded and unreliable being the most unreliable route in London at one point before it’s route north of Stockwell Green was switched onto the 196 |
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Post by southlondonbus on Oct 11, 2023 12:01:15 GMT
Route 196 never seems to be particularly well used between Vauxhall and Elephant whenever I have seen it. Kennington Lane certainly needs a bus service but maybe this is the wrong route? There isn’t really a better placed route to run along there - remove the 196 and something else that runs along the same routing from at least as far as Stockwell would be needed given the demand for school and shopping. The 196 was a far better choice than the 322 was which was overcrowded and unreliable being the most unreliable route in London at one point before it’s route north of Stockwell Green was switched onto the 196 Along with the 50 I think the 196 was one of the best route swaps really from that time. |
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Post by joefrombow on Oct 11, 2023 12:26:14 GMT
5/EL2 Between Becontree and Barking in the mornings and Eveningscould do with some additional buses even where the EL3 joins Longbridge in the morning still buses leave people behind and stops are packed very busy corridor
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Post by vjaska on Oct 11, 2023 13:38:45 GMT
There isn’t really a better placed route to run along there - remove the 196 and something else that runs along the same routing from at least as far as Stockwell would be needed given the demand for school and shopping. The 196 was a far better choice than the 322 was which was overcrowded and unreliable being the most unreliable route in London at one point before it’s route north of Stockwell Green was switched onto the 196 Along with the 50 I think the 196 was one of the best route swaps really from that time. I have to agree with that  |
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Post by rift on Oct 11, 2023 15:00:21 GMT
Route 196 never seems to be particularly well used between Vauxhall and Elephant whenever I have seen it. Kennington Lane certainly needs a bus service but maybe this is the wrong route? That's a good point and I wonder whether rerouting the 53 to Vauxhall or even Battersea Power Station would be beneficial for SE/SW London travel? I don’t think rerouting the 53 along Kennington Lane would be any good, especially as it would no longer serve St Thomas’, which several GP’s around the areas it serves refers patients to. There may be merit in extending it from Lambeth North to Lambeth Palace or Vauxhall, however via Waterloo and Albert Embankment instead. |
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Post by southlondonbus on Oct 11, 2023 15:04:57 GMT
Along with the 50 I think the 196 was one of the best route swaps really from that time. I have to agree with that At the time I did think it may have been better to simply cut the 322 to Brixton to allow it focus on its Railton Road and Rosendale sections where its the only route. |
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Post by abellion on Oct 11, 2023 15:33:07 GMT
That's a good point and I wonder whether rerouting the 53 to Vauxhall or even Battersea Power Station would be beneficial for SE/SW London travel? I don’t think rerouting the 53 along Kennington Lane would be any good, especially as it would no longer serve St Thomas’, which several GP’s around the areas it serves refers patients to. There may be merit in extending it from Lambeth North to Lambeth Palace or Vauxhall, however via Waterloo and Albert Embankment instead. I think that would overbus that section with the 77 usually not being too busy. The 36/436 provide a much more direct southeastern link from Vauxhall whilst the 53 would take ages going around Waterloo and the 196, 344 and 360 are fine for Elephant. |
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