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Post by sleckdeck on Nov 13, 2021 0:22:59 GMT
Write your opinions on routes that need a significant change, whether that be frequency increases, route extensions and so on.
Here are my opinions.
The R68, R70 and 490 get ridiculously packed running along the Richmond to Twickenham corridor. Even to the point that you'll most likely be squashed at the front door in rush hour at Richmond station. Not to mention George Street and the bus station. Personally, I'd like to see a partial double deck allocation on one of these routes. The R68 could also do with a frequency increase.
The 33 is a known busy route, there were a couple of unusual times recently when there were SPs full on the 33 and this wasn't during strike. One 33 on a DD had people standing by the luggage area. Personally would like to see it upgraded like the 371.
The 267 desperately needs a frequency increase, it is even less likely to board the bus at rush hour than the 237. I use it everyday and even during the 'school service' fiasco I can tell you that even today, half the time the bus driver will drive past you because he can't let you on.
What do you think?
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Post by JUNIOR26 on Nov 13, 2021 2:04:46 GMT
What is the point of this thread? There are other threads that cover this sort of stuff.
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Post by JUNIOR26 on Nov 13, 2021 2:06:29 GMT
Write your opinions on routes that need a significant change, whether that be frequency increases, route extensions and so on. Here are my opinions. The R68, R70 and 490 get ridiculously packed running along the Richmond to Twickenham corridor. Even to the point that you'll most likely be squashed at the front door in rush hour at Richmond station. Not to mention George Street and the bus station. Personally, I'd like to see a partial double deck allocation on one of these routes. The R68 could also do with a frequency increase. The 33 is a known busy route, there were a couple of unusual times recently when there were SPs full on the 33 and this wasn't during strike. One 33 on a DD had people standing by the luggage area. Personally would like to see it upgraded like the 371. The 267 desperately needs a frequency increase, it is even less likely to board the bus at rush hour than the 237. I use it everyday and even during the 'school service' fiasco I can tell you that even today, half the time the bus driver will drive past you because he can't let you on. What do you think? Also, haven't you already put this in another thread that you have created? When I'll say again other threads covering this. |
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Post by richard on Nov 13, 2021 2:31:31 GMT
Write your opinions on routes that need a significant change, whether that be frequency increases, route extensions and so on. Here are my opinions. The R68, R70 and 490 get ridiculously packed running along the Richmond to Twickenham corridor. Even to the point that you'll most likely be squashed at the front door in rush hour at Richmond station. Not to mention George Street and the bus station. Personally, I'd like to see a partial double deck allocation on one of these routes. The R68 could also do with a frequency increase. The 33 is a known busy route, there were a couple of unusual times recently when there were SPs full on the 33 and this wasn't during strike. One 33 on a DD had people standing by the luggage area. Personally would like to see it upgraded like the 371. The 267 desperately needs a frequency increase, it is even less likely to board the bus at rush hour than the 237. I use it everyday and even during the 'school service' fiasco I can tell you that even today, half the time the bus driver will drive past you because he can't let you on. What do you think? I think ServerKing will have an option on this with the 318 🤣🤣 |
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Post by ServerKing on Nov 13, 2021 8:35:26 GMT
Lol this thread is going nowhere, like Dele Alli's career  the 318 isn't too bad, there are some routes where you wait ages for a bus, like the 232 at times. 318 could do with newer buses, but there's more chance of Newcastle winning the Cup this year  |
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Post by southlondonbus on Nov 13, 2021 8:50:08 GMT
Write your opinions on routes that need a significant change, whether that be frequency increases, route extensions and so on. Here are my opinions. The R68, R70 and 490 get ridiculously packed running along the Richmond to Twickenham corridor. Even to the point that you'll most likely be squashed at the front door in rush hour at Richmond station. Not to mention George Street and the bus station. Personally, I'd like to see a partial double deck allocation on one of these routes. The R68 could also do with a frequency increase. The 33 is a known busy route, there were a couple of unusual times recently when there were SPs full on the 33 and this wasn't during strike. One 33 on a DD had people standing by the luggage area. Personally would like to see it upgraded like the 371. The 267 desperately needs a frequency increase, it is even less likely to board the bus at rush hour than the 237. I use it everyday and even during the 'school service' fiasco I can tell you that even today, half the time the bus driver will drive past you because he can't let you on. What do you think? Most likely route to be DD would be the 490 which I guess could use E40Hs currently serving the 63 if they are not all needed back at QB. |
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Post by capitalomnibus on Nov 13, 2021 9:14:36 GMT
Lol this thread is going nowhere, like Dele Alli's career the 318 isn't too bad, there are some routes where you wait ages for a bus, like the 232 at times. 318 could do with newer buses, but there's more chance of Newcastle winning the Cup this year Problem is, this thread is just to similar like many others and is practically another wild fantasy thread. It is practically the same as; Withdrawn/New bus route ideas speculation / suggestion - route improvements/tender ideas FANTASY Bus extensions and routes that should be. |
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Post by ServerKing on Nov 13, 2021 11:12:12 GMT
Lol this thread is going nowhere, like Dele Alli's career the 318 isn't too bad, there are some routes where you wait ages for a bus, like the 232 at times. 318 could do with newer buses, but there's more chance of Newcastle winning the Cup this year Problem is, this thread is just to similar like many others and is practically another wild fantasy thread. It is practically the same as; Withdrawn/New bus route ideas speculation / suggestion - route improvements/tender ideas FANTASY Bus extensions and routes that should be. Hopefully this thread can be 'Withrawn, Usage records may still exist'  |
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Post by sleckdeck on Nov 13, 2021 12:15:06 GMT
Write your opinions on routes that need a significant change, whether that be frequency increases, route extensions and so on. Here are my opinions. The R68, R70 and 490 get ridiculously packed running along the Richmond to Twickenham corridor. Even to the point that you'll most likely be squashed at the front door in rush hour at Richmond station. Not to mention George Street and the bus station. Personally, I'd like to see a partial double deck allocation on one of these routes. The R68 could also do with a frequency increase. The 33 is a known busy route, there were a couple of unusual times recently when there were SPs full on the 33 and this wasn't during strike. One 33 on a DD had people standing by the luggage area. Personally would like to see it upgraded like the 371. The 267 desperately needs a frequency increase, it is even less likely to board the bus at rush hour than the 237. I use it everyday and even during the 'school service' fiasco I can tell you that even today, half the time the bus driver will drive past you because he can't let you on. What do you think? Also, haven't you already put this in another thread that you have created? When I'll say again other threads covering this. My phone cut out so I thought that thread didn't actually get posted when I had a look after. In that case, ignore the other thread. Also, where has these sort of threads been created!? |
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Post by vjaska on Nov 13, 2021 12:34:06 GMT
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Post by evergreenadam on Nov 13, 2021 13:19:50 GMT
Write your opinions on routes that need a significant change, whether that be frequency increases, route extensions and so on. Here are my opinions. The R68, R70 and 490 get ridiculously packed running along the Richmond to Twickenham corridor. Even to the point that you'll most likely be squashed at the front door in rush hour at Richmond station. Not to mention George Street and the bus station. Personally, I'd like to see a partial double deck allocation on one of these routes. The R68 could also do with a frequency increase. The 33 is a known busy route, there were a couple of unusual times recently when there were SPs full on the 33 and this wasn't during strike. One 33 on a DD had people standing by the luggage area. Personally would like to see it upgraded like the 371. The 267 desperately needs a frequency increase, it is even less likely to board the bus at rush hour than the 237. I use it everyday and even during the 'school service' fiasco I can tell you that even today, half the time the bus driver will drive past you because he can't let you on. What do you think? Where are you trying to board the 267 and in which direction? The 490, R68, R70 situation is of course the result of withdrawing route H22 between Twickenham and Richmond and diverting it to West Middlesex Hospital. TfL assured everyone that there would be sufficient capacity available on the remaining routes. It doesn’t help that the frequent 33 does not serve Richmond Station. Incidentally I have had cause to use the 110 and 481 in the Whitton area recently. The 110 is building up a decent base of patronage on the new direct Whitton to Richmond section with evidence of local journeys within Whitton, longer journeys to Richmond and even the new stops on the A316 being used. The 481 seems to have a loyal following in Whitton, particularly on the Hospital Bridge Road section where it runs alone. Quite surprising for a route that only runs every 30 minutes. The Whitton to Isleworth link is useful but would be much better patronised if it ran through to Brentford County Court, opening up interchange with other bus routes on London Road and a direct service to schools and Morrison’s. |
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Post by sleckdeck on Nov 13, 2021 21:50:32 GMT
Write your opinions on routes that need a significant change, whether that be frequency increases, route extensions and so on. Here are my opinions. The R68, R70 and 490 get ridiculously packed running along the Richmond to Twickenham corridor. Even to the point that you'll most likely be squashed at the front door in rush hour at Richmond station. Not to mention George Street and the bus station. Personally, I'd like to see a partial double deck allocation on one of these routes. The R68 could also do with a frequency increase. The 33 is a known busy route, there were a couple of unusual times recently when there were SPs full on the 33 and this wasn't during strike. One 33 on a DD had people standing by the luggage area. Personally would like to see it upgraded like the 371. The 267 desperately needs a frequency increase, it is even less likely to board the bus at rush hour than the 237. I use it everyday and even during the 'school service' fiasco I can tell you that even today, half the time the bus driver will drive past you because he can't let you on. What do you think? Where are you trying to board the 267 and in which direction? The 490, R68, R70 situation is of course the result of withdrawing route H22 between Twickenham and Richmond and diverting it to West Middlesex Hospital. TfL assured everyone that there would be sufficient capacity available on the remaining routes. It doesn’t help that the frequent 33 does not serve Richmond Station. Incidentally I have had cause to use the 110 and 481 in the Whitton area recently. The 110 is building up a decent base of patronage on the new direct Whitton to Richmond section with evidence of local journeys within Whitton, longer journeys to Richmond and even the new stops on the A316 being used. The 481 seems to have a loyal following in Whitton, particularly on the Hospital Bridge Road section where it runs alone. Quite surprising for a route that only runs every 30 minutes. The Whitton to Isleworth link is useful but would be much better patronised if it ran through to Brentford County Court, opening up interchange with other bus routes on London Road and a direct service to schools and Morrison’s. Brentford to Twickenham and back. Brentford is usually the busiest section going towards fulwell, and isleworth tends to be the busiest section towards hammermsith. Half the time I do not even get allowed on the bus as there isn't sufficient space. The R68 is definitely a route that has always been really busy but tfl seems to ignore it, same with routes like the 281. Could the r68 take double deckers or is there a restriction in Kew or something? But to be honest, there wasn't sufficient capacity even before the H22 had been withdrawn from Manor Circus to Heath Road. But now it is even worse to the point that something needs to be done. The 481 being extended to Brentford county court would be a fantastic extension, would help relieve stress on the 267. Similar to how the E1 is going to relieve stress on the 65 once it's extended to Gillette Corner. The H22 perhaps could have been extended to Brentford instead. I do think that the 391 really could have been extended elsewhere rather than withdrawing the route, such as to Central Middlesex hospital or Kingston. What do you think? |
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Post by sleckdeck on Nov 13, 2021 21:51:03 GMT
Write your opinions on routes that need a significant change, whether that be frequency increases, route extensions and so on. Here are my opinions. The R68, R70 and 490 get ridiculously packed running along the Richmond to Twickenham corridor. Even to the point that you'll most likely be squashed at the front door in rush hour at Richmond station. Not to mention George Street and the bus station. Personally, I'd like to see a partial double deck allocation on one of these routes. The R68 could also do with a frequency increase. The 33 is a known busy route, there were a couple of unusual times recently when there were SPs full on the 33 and this wasn't during strike. One 33 on a DD had people standing by the luggage area. Personally would like to see it upgraded like the 371. The 267 desperately needs a frequency increase, it is even less likely to board the bus at rush hour than the 237. I use it everyday and even during the 'school service' fiasco I can tell you that even today, half the time the bus driver will drive past you because he can't let you on. What do you think? Where are you trying to board the 267 and in which direction? The 490, R68, R70 situation is of course the result of withdrawing route H22 between Twickenham and Richmond and diverting it to West Middlesex Hospital. TfL assured everyone that there would be sufficient capacity available on the remaining routes. It doesn’t help that the frequent 33 does not serve Richmond Station. Incidentally I have had cause to use the 110 and 481 in the Whitton area recently. The 110 is building up a decent base of patronage on the new direct Whitton to Richmond section with evidence of local journeys within Whitton, longer journeys to Richmond and even the new stops on the A316 being used. The 481 seems to have a loyal following in Whitton, particularly on the Hospital Bridge Road section where it runs alone. Quite surprising for a route that only runs every 30 minutes. The Whitton to Isleworth link is useful but would be much better patronised if it ran through to Brentford County Court, opening up interchange with other bus routes on London Road and a direct service to schools and Morrison’s. Brentford to Twickenham and back. Brentford is usually the busiest section going towards fulwell, and isleworth tends to be the busiest section towards hammermsith. Half the time I do not even get allowed on the bus as there isn't sufficient space. The R68 is definitely a route that has always been really busy but tfl seems to ignore it, same with routes like the 281. Could the r68 take double deckers or is there a restriction in Kew or something? But to be honest, there wasn't sufficient capacity even before the H22 had been withdrawn from Manor Circus to Heath Road. But now it is even worse to the point that something needs to be done. The 481 being extended to Brentford county court would be a fantastic extension, would help relieve stress on the 267. Similar to how the E1 is going to relieve stress on the 65 once it's extended to Gillette Corner. The H22 perhaps could have been extended to Brentford instead. I do think that the 391 really could have been extended elsewhere rather than withdrawing the route, such as to Central Middlesex hospital or Kingston. What do you think? |
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Post by evergreenadam on Nov 15, 2021 13:45:15 GMT
Where are you trying to board the 267 and in which direction? The 490, R68, R70 situation is of course the result of withdrawing route H22 between Twickenham and Richmond and diverting it to West Middlesex Hospital. TfL assured everyone that there would be sufficient capacity available on the remaining routes. It doesn’t help that the frequent 33 does not serve Richmond Station. Incidentally I have had cause to use the 110 and 481 in the Whitton area recently. The 110 is building up a decent base of patronage on the new direct Whitton to Richmond section with evidence of local journeys within Whitton, longer journeys to Richmond and even the new stops on the A316 being used. The 481 seems to have a loyal following in Whitton, particularly on the Hospital Bridge Road section where it runs alone. Quite surprising for a route that only runs every 30 minutes. The Whitton to Isleworth link is useful but would be much better patronised if it ran through to Brentford County Court, opening up interchange with other bus routes on London Road and a direct service to schools and Morrison’s. Brentford to Twickenham and back. Brentford is usually the busiest section going towards fulwell, and isleworth tends to be the busiest section towards hammermsith. Half the time I do not even get allowed on the bus as there isn't sufficient space. The R68 is definitely a route that has always been really busy but tfl seems to ignore it, same with routes like the 281. Could the r68 take double deckers or is there a restriction in Kew or something? But to be honest, there wasn't sufficient capacity even before the H22 had been withdrawn from Manor Circus to Heath Road. But now it is even worse to the point that something needs to be done. The 481 being extended to Brentford county court would be a fantastic extension, would help relieve stress on the 267. Similar to how the E1 is going to relieve stress on the 65 once it's extended to Gillette Corner. The H22 perhaps could have been extended to Brentford instead. I do think that the 391 really could have been extended elsewhere rather than withdrawing the route, such as to Central Middlesex hospital or Kingston. What do you think? I have always doubted the efficiency of the H22 extension from Twickenham to West Middlesex Hospital, every 12mins daytimes in place of route 110 every 20mins. I would be interested to know how well it loads on the extended section in the peaks, but on the occasions that I have seen it off peak, I’ve not been that impressed and there have been plenty of spare seats on the 267 bus behind. In the current climate there’s no chance of an extension to Brentford. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2021 14:11:44 GMT
Brentford to Twickenham and back. Brentford is usually the busiest section going towards fulwell, and isleworth tends to be the busiest section towards hammermsith. Half the time I do not even get allowed on the bus as there isn't sufficient space. The R68 is definitely a route that has always been really busy but tfl seems to ignore it, same with routes like the 281. Could the r68 take double deckers or is there a restriction in Kew or something? But to be honest, there wasn't sufficient capacity even before the H22 had been withdrawn from Manor Circus to Heath Road. But now it is even worse to the point that something needs to be done. The 481 being extended to Brentford county court would be a fantastic extension, would help relieve stress on the 267. Similar to how the E1 is going to relieve stress on the 65 once it's extended to Gillette Corner. The H22 perhaps could have been extended to Brentford instead. I do think that the 391 really could have been extended elsewhere rather than withdrawing the route, such as to Central Middlesex hospital or Kingston. What do you think? I have always doubted the efficiency of the H22 extension from Twickenham to West Middlesex Hospital, every 12mins daytimes in place of route 110 every 20mins. I would be interested to know how well it loads on the extended section in the peaks, but on the occasions that I have seen it off peak, I’ve not been that impressed and there have been plenty of spare seats on the 267 bus behind. In the current climate there’s no chance of an extension to Brentford. As a frequenter, I can assure you that re-routing the H22 to West Middlesex was and still is one of the dumbest choices ever made by TFL. They exposed the 490 on the busiest section of the route and the benefits from such a move are minimal. Between Twickenham and West Middlesex, the route is hardly busy even during the peak-hours and what's worse is that hardly anyone between Sixth Cross Road and Twickenham Green uses the route anymore and instead pile up on the 490 as that's the only route that goes to Richmond which is where they want to go instead of West Middlesex or Twickenham Station. The 490 is a route that doesn't need deckers as it only needs the assistance of the H22 on the Sixth Cross Road-Richmond corridor to ease the load but now it could use some during the peak-hours. However, it could very well carry on as a single decker route until 2024 as there are some routes that need deckers more like the 195, 235 or 355 especially the former. |
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the 318 isn't too bad, there are some routes where you wait ages for a bus, like the 232 at times. 318 could do with newer buses, but there's more chance of Newcastle winning the Cup this year 
