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Post by cardinal on Oct 15, 2023 17:28:30 GMT
Larger buses at higher frequencies. A departure from Sidcup at lunchtime today saw people standing up to the front windows. |
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Post by greenboy on Oct 15, 2023 18:42:13 GMT
Larger buses at higher frequencies. A departure from Sidcup at lunchtime today saw people standing up to the front windows. The 233 is often packed on Sundays between Sidcup and Swanley, a half hourly service is inadequate. |
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Post by darz on Oct 15, 2023 19:17:02 GMT
450 and 468 on weekends
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Post by cybermike137 on Oct 15, 2023 21:02:05 GMT
And 289 on Sundays, gets extremely busy |
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Post by londonbuses on Oct 15, 2023 21:13:51 GMT
As I've suggested before, I think Sunday frequencies needed to be reviewed across the board. Many routes need major improvements to their frequency on Sundays, and it shouldn't be too difficult or expensive as it obviously won't require any PVR increases.
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Post by ronnie on Oct 16, 2023 5:43:10 GMT
I think the 53 to st Thomas would be a very logical extension, it’s literally round the corner. No other stand space. From memory there is a fair bit of stand space on Lambeth palace road just before the roundabout leading to Lambeth bridge |
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Post by greenboy on Oct 16, 2023 7:14:12 GMT
From memory there is a fair bit of stand space on Lambeth palace road just before the roundabout leading to Lambeth bridge It's only intended for emergency use, when Parliament Square is closed, as buses standing there block the bus lane. I think it would be easier to extend the 53 back to Whitehall again rather than Lambeth Bridge. |
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Post by twobellstogo on Oct 16, 2023 7:54:27 GMT
Larger buses at higher frequencies. A departure from Sidcup at lunchtime today saw people standing up to the front windows. In its previous Metrobus incarnation, it fairly regularly used double decks. When the current Metrobus incarnation started, I mentioned on this forum that double decks might be desirable again, and was told by another forum member (can’t recall who, but it wasn’t a regular here) to not be so stupid and that surely I knew that the trees around the Northview estate in Swanley precluded the use of such buses 🙄 |
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Post by greenboy on Oct 16, 2023 9:36:56 GMT
Larger buses at higher frequencies. A departure from Sidcup at lunchtime today saw people standing up to the front windows. In its previous Metrobus incarnation, it fairly regularly used double decks. When the current Metrobus incarnation started, I mentioned on this forum that double decks might be desirable again, and was told by another forum member (can’t recall who, but it wasn’t a regular here) to not be so stupid and that surely I knew that the trees around the Northview estate in Swanley precluded the use of such buses 🙄 There seems to be conflicting reports about whether double deckers are ok for the 233 but I would have thought 4bph daytime could be justified? From my random observations overcrowding seems to be worse on Sunday's, perhaps the lack of other routes in Swanley on Sunday's is a factor and it's even worse if there are engineering works on the railway. |
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Post by cardinal on Oct 16, 2023 10:32:38 GMT
Larger buses at higher frequencies. A departure from Sidcup at lunchtime today saw people standing up to the front windows. In its previous Metrobus incarnation, it fairly regularly used double decks. When the current Metrobus incarnation started, I mentioned on this forum that double decks might be desirable again, and was told by another forum member (can’t recall who, but it wasn’t a regular here) to not be so stupid and that surely I knew that the trees around the Northview estate in Swanley precluded the use of such buses 🙄 Swanley is a great example of a place that if it was in London would have at least three TfL routes. Alas it lies beyond that great invisible boundary. North view estate should really be served by a more regular local service ( ain’t ever going to happen ) |
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Post by vjaska on Oct 16, 2023 11:00:45 GMT
From memory there is a fair bit of stand space on Lambeth palace road just before the roundabout leading to Lambeth bridge Yes, the 53 used to stand there when it was cut back from Whitehall during road works |
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Post by southlondonbus on Oct 20, 2023 8:12:30 GMT
Larger buses at higher frequencies. A departure from Sidcup at lunchtime today saw people standing up to the front windows. The 233 is often packed on Sundays between Sidcup and Swanley, a half hourly service is inadequate. Where is the main issue that restricts bigger buses on the 233? I'm guessing it's the North View Estate but it could be the back street section by Sidcup Station. |
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Post by greenboy on Oct 20, 2023 9:31:06 GMT
The 233 is often packed on Sundays between Sidcup and Swanley, a half hourly service is inadequate. Where is the main issue that restricts bigger buses on the 233? I'm guessing it's the North View Estate but it could be the back street section by Sidcup Station. Longlands Road I think, although rail replacement double deckers go along there but obviously that's only occasionally rather than every day. |
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Post by Paul on Oct 20, 2023 13:51:12 GMT
Where is the main issue that restricts bigger buses on the 233? I'm guessing it's the North View Estate but it could be the back street section by Sidcup Station. Longlands Road I think, although rail replacement double deckers go along there but obviously that's only occasionally rather than every day. I saw a light running 160 on Longlands Road the other day - again, occasionally rather than all day though |
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Post by danorak on Oct 21, 2023 1:01:05 GMT
From memory there is a fair bit of stand space on Lambeth palace road just before the roundabout leading to Lambeth bridge It's only intended for emergency use, when Parliament Square is closed, as buses standing there block the bus lane. I think it would be easier to extend the 53 back to Whitehall again rather than Lambeth Bridge. Sightseeing buses stand in the bus lane along Lambeth Palace Road so it shouldn't make much difference. A bigger problem is that TfL is removing the roundabouts either side of Lambeth Bridge for another idiotic cycling scheme. |
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