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Post by M1104 on Mar 4, 2022 10:20:37 GMT
Not a great question to ask (and I know controversial) but how long before it pops over to (ordinary) Russians not being seen in a positive light / not being allowed for say rent? No one gives a d*** about oligarchs anyway You only have to look at how various Middle Eastern nationals were treated after 9/11 to see how this is gonna go. With the rise of Twitter and Facebook since then it will be too easy to target Russian backed or owned businesses and individuals. Just two days ago there was a Twitter campaign against Holland&Barrett because a Russian business man owns a shareholding through his investment firm. It will spread slowly to ordinary Russians and it’s unfortunate, they didn’t ask for this and I’m sure many didn’t want it. I don’t see Russians as the problem but their leaders and many will find it hard to distinguish between the two. The media needs to continue to a stronger degree on Russian citizen's objections to Putin and his authorities to, if at all possible, soften down on unnecessary prejudice (no matter by how little an effect that would be). Also, choice of words in general conversations and reportings are quite sensitive. I for example tend to say "Russian authorities" instead of just "Russia" when refering to their military/political actions, particularly with this conflict...although there's always going to be individuals that will make up their own perspectives. |
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Post by ronnie on Mar 4, 2022 11:14:37 GMT
You only have to look at how various Middle Eastern nationals were treated after 9/11 to see how this is gonna go. With the rise of Twitter and Facebook since then it will be too easy to target Russian backed or owned businesses and individuals. Just two days ago there was a Twitter campaign against Holland&Barrett because a Russian business man owns a shareholding through his investment firm. It will spread slowly to ordinary Russians and it’s unfortunate, they didn’t ask for this and I’m sure many didn’t want it. I don’t see Russians as the problem but their leaders and many will find it hard to distinguish between the two. The media needs to continue to a stronger degree on Russian citizen's objections to Putin and his authorities to, if at all possible, soften down on unnecessary prejudice (no matter by how little an effect that would be). Also, choice of words in general conversations and reportings are quite sensitive. I for example tend to say "Russian authorities" instead of just "Russia" when refering to their military/political actions, particularly with this conflict...although there's always going to be individuals that will make up their own perspectives. One needs to also remember that Moscow isn’t exactly parliament square where anyone can turn up to protest. At the end of the day one cares about their family and many people are just too (I would say rightly) scared as well |
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Post by M1104 on Mar 4, 2022 11:36:05 GMT
The media needs to continue to a stronger degree on Russian citizen's objections to Putin and his authorities to, if at all possible, soften down on unnecessary prejudice (no matter by how little an effect that would be). Also, choice of words in general conversations and reportings are quite sensitive. I for example tend to say "Russian authorities" instead of just "Russia" when refering to their military/political actions, particularly with this conflict...although there's always going to be individuals that will make up their own perspectives. One needs to also remember that Moscow isn’t exactly parliament square where anyone can turn up to protest. At the end of the day one cares about their family and many people are just too (I would say rightly) scared as well Yes but that's where general media from elsewhere can input on their situations when reporting economic santions, which tend to hit the general public side of Russia the hardest. |
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Post by busman on Mar 7, 2022 13:17:28 GMT
With another tranche of sanctions on the way I think we will really start to see an impact on fuel prices. Many of you will have noticed just how quickly (some might say prematurely) fuel prices have gone up at the pump. With the prospect of a wide ranging ban on the import of Russian fuel, this will hit our economies hard - not just Russia. For bus companies and other industries reliant on fuel, margins will come under severe pressure as the cost of fuel soars. Affected industries will have no choice but to pass on these inflated costs to the consumer. I expect more people will be drawn into fuel poverty in the coming months, and inflation will be a hard reality for many people for the first time in their lives.
In saying all that, this is merely an unpleasant side effect of the medicine administered for a life-threatening disease.
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Post by busman on Mar 7, 2022 21:19:49 GMT
With another tranche of sanctions on the way I think we will really start to see an impact on fuel prices. Many of you will have noticed just how quickly (some might say prematurely) fuel prices have gone up at the pump. With the prospect of a wide ranging ban on the import of Russian fuel, this will hit our economies hard - not just Russia. For bus companies and other industries reliant on fuel, margins will come under severe pressure as the cost of fuel soars. Affected industries will have no choice but to pass on these inflated costs to the consumer. I expect more people will be drawn into fuel poverty in the coming months, and inflation will be a hard reality for many people for the first time in their lives. In saying all that, this is merely an unpleasant side effect of the medicine administered for a life-threatening disease. Since I wrote this post, Germany came out strongly against a total ban on imports of Russian oil and gas which completely rules out the scenario above as all countries must act in tandem. It would be economic suicide for a European country to act unilaterally. Germany is so dependent on Russian energy it would make an EI agreement impossible. The UK is not likely to act alone in a way that would put its economy at a competitive disadvantage compared with other European countries. As I said in my opening post, looks like Putin has Western countries in checkmate. Those oil and gas dollars will keep on rolling in. |
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Post by SILENCED on Mar 8, 2022 11:44:30 GMT
Nickel trading suspended @ $100,000 per tonne. An important element in automotive batteries. Also important for stainless steel.
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Post by dashing0ne on Mar 8, 2022 17:11:35 GMT
USA announced ban of gas and oil immediately. The UK will phase out Russian Oil by the end of 2022. The main damage on Russia is not coming as Germany and France came out adamantly against a ban. Worried will impact ordinary folk more than even just Russia. See panic buying coming back.
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Post by ronnie on Mar 8, 2022 19:00:41 GMT
USA announced ban of gas and oil immediately. The UK will phase out Russian Oil by the end of 2022. The main damage on Russia is not coming as Germany and France came out adamantly against a ban. Worried will impact ordinary folk more than even just Russia. See panic buying coming back. Am waiting for people to queue up for “cheap” fuel considering it’s only going to go up |
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Post by vjaska on Mar 8, 2022 19:55:50 GMT
USA announced ban of gas and oil immediately. The UK will phase out Russian Oil by the end of 2022. The main damage on Russia is not coming as Germany and France came out adamantly against a ban. Worried will impact ordinary folk more than even just Russia. See panic buying coming back. It’s a lot harder for the EU countries to do when they’re so heavily reliant on it hence the pledge to cut it by two thirds instead. By comparison, UK & US only brought quantities equal to less than 10%. We’ll all feel the pain but sadly it’s necessary in this instance. |
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Post by WH241 on Mar 8, 2022 20:15:25 GMT
USA announced ban of gas and oil immediately. The UK will phase out Russian Oil by the end of 2022. The main damage on Russia is not coming as Germany and France came out adamantly against a ban. Worried will impact ordinary folk more than even just Russia. See panic buying coming back. Am waiting for people to queue up for “cheap” fuel considering it’s only going to go up I am reaching a point where I will stop using my car as its so uneconomical and the cost of fuel is already a joke! We are living in very interesting times! the 2020s are turning out to be pretty rubbish! |
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Post by Eastlondoner62 on Mar 8, 2022 20:30:39 GMT
Am waiting for people to queue up for “cheap” fuel considering it’s only going to go up I am reaching a point where I will stop using my car as its so uneconomical and the cost of fuel is already a joke! We are living in very interesting times! the 2020s are turning out to be pretty rubbish! I think it's also down to the ridiculous E10 petrol that's made its way around petrol stations more in recent weeks. Believe it's now actually cheaper to put Ultimate (E5) into cars as the milage is far better despite a higher initial cost, but works out cheaper overall. |
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Post by southlondon413 on Mar 8, 2022 21:14:47 GMT
USA announced ban of gas and oil immediately. The UK will phase out Russian Oil by the end of 2022. The main damage on Russia is not coming as Germany and France came out adamantly against a ban. Worried will impact ordinary folk more than even just Russia. See panic buying coming back. It’s a lot harder for the EU countries to do when they’re so heavily reliant on it hence the pledge to cut it by two thirds instead. By comparison, UK & US only brought quantities equal to less than 10%. We’ll all feel the pain but sadly it’s necessary in this instance. I would think given the “special relationship” the US might just be willing to help the UK with oil and gas. Maybe, perhaps. |
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Post by vjaska on Mar 8, 2022 21:18:29 GMT
It’s a lot harder for the EU countries to do when they’re so heavily reliant on it hence the pledge to cut it by two thirds instead. By comparison, UK & US only brought quantities equal to less than 10%. We’ll all feel the pain but sadly it’s necessary in this instance. I would think given the “special relationship” the US might just be willing to help the UK with oil and gas. Maybe, perhaps. I wouldn’t rule that out although news sources seem to be suggesting Saudi Arabia as an alternative which would be double standards personally |
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Post by ronnie on Mar 8, 2022 21:26:53 GMT
I would think given the “special relationship” the US might just be willing to help the UK with oil and gas. Maybe, perhaps. I wouldn’t rule that out although news sources seem to be suggesting Saudi Arabia as an alternative which would be double standards personally Swap one dictator for another. Great choice, not sure which is worse. Arguably Russian women have greater freedom than Saudi women …. The only silver lining out of this is that a lot of nations will very actively try and reduce dependence on oil very quickly |
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Post by ronnie on Mar 8, 2022 21:28:49 GMT
I am reaching a point where I will stop using my car as its so uneconomical and the cost of fuel is already a joke! We are living in very interesting times! the 2020s are turning out to be pretty rubbish! I think it's also down to the ridiculous E10 petrol that's made its way around petrol stations more in recent weeks. Believe it's now actually cheaper to put Ultimate (E5) into cars as the milage is far better despite a higher initial cost, but works out cheaper overall. Agree, mileage especially in city driving in E10 is noticeable lower (on motorways it’s not that bad). I overall didn’t agree with this entire E10 saga as fuel efficiency comes down, plus not sure how sustainable the bioethanol is frankly (I could be wrong though on this) |
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