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Post by 123ToLondon on May 28, 2022 10:52:37 GMT
Want to see the 12 returned to Croydon and the 312 renumbered at next tender! A chance to make history right! The irony that people talk about finances but then want to renumber all sorts of bus routes, glad you got your priorities right 🙄 No one is really expecting these to happen though these are just ideas that probably will not be seen. No need to kill the mood This thread is a bit of light amusement, an entirely unserious and unscientific poll.
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Post by vjaska on May 28, 2022 10:54:50 GMT
The irony that people talk about finances but then want to renumber all sorts of bus routes, glad you got your priorities right 🙄 No one is really expecting these to happen though these are just ideas that probably will not be seen. No need to kill the mood With all due respect, whether I’m killing the mood or not, I’m allowed to give an opinion. Clearly given the amount of routes that are potentially being withdrawn, people are expecting some to change
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Post by WH241 on May 28, 2022 10:58:35 GMT
The irony that people talk about finances but then want to renumber all sorts of bus routes, glad you got your priorities right 🙄 No one is really expecting these to happen though these are just ideas that probably will not be seen. No need to kill the mood This thread is a bit of light amusement, an entirely unserious and unscientific poll. Who said the thread was for light amusement?
The forum is full of fantasy! I see a post elsewhere yesterday that sadly showed how certain parts of this forum is perceived by others. I really would welcome the return of serious discussion especially with how serious things are getting with the proposed cuts to the network.
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Post by 123ToLondon on May 28, 2022 11:00:12 GMT
Just for a bit of light amusement, an entirely unserious and unscientific poll. With the 168 and 271 on the way out, and the (non-TfL) 84 finally departing London, there are a few gaps emerging in the traditional LT Central Area numbers. But history tells us that these eventually get reused. So which will be first to make a comeback? The 82 with its tradition of being used all over the place? The restless 48? Or will 3** and 4** series numbers continue to be allocated long enough to give the 168 time to bounce back? Cast your votes now... Dan said it
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Post by 123ToLondon on May 28, 2022 11:02:53 GMT
No one is really expecting these to happen though these are just ideas that probably will not be seen. No need to kill the mood This thread is a bit of light amusement, an entirely unserious and unscientific poll. Who said the thread was for light amusement?Â
The forum is full of fantasy! I see a post elsewhere yesterday that sadly showed how certain parts of this forum is perceived by others.    I really would welcome the return of serious discussion especially with how serious things are getting with the proposed cuts to the network. Â
I never said this forum wasn't fantasy, there are serious threads hence why you get things like fantasy threads in here, which differentiate with those that are serious. Exemplifying on this, I know people sometimes say fantasy like things but then they learn from other members much serious ones like you and vjaska, and it helps them improve, of course in threads like this your going to get random suggestions but in the end your just going to have to deal with it.
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Post by WH241 on May 28, 2022 11:14:01 GMT
Who said the thread was for light amusement?
The forum is full of fantasy! I see a post elsewhere yesterday that sadly showed how certain parts of this forum is perceived by others. I really would welcome the return of serious discussion especially with how serious things are getting with the proposed cuts to the network.
I never said this forum wasn't fantasy, there are serious threads hence why you get things like fantasy threads in here, which differentiate with those that are serious. Exemplifying on this, I know people sometimes say fantasy like things but then they learn from other members much serious ones like you and vjaska, and it helps them improve, of course in threads like this your going to get random suggestions but in the end your just going to have to deal with it. Am I really? You seem very sure of yourself for a "new" member.
As I said earlier the reputation of the forum is one of fantasy and false information, If you want to contribute to that go for it.
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Post by 123ToLondon on May 28, 2022 11:28:04 GMT
I never said this forum wasn't fantasy, there are serious threads hence why you get things like fantasy threads in here, which differentiate with those that are serious. Exemplifying on this, I know people sometimes say fantasy like things but then they learn from other members much serious ones like you and vjaska, and it helps them improve, of course in threads like this your going to get random suggestions but in the end your just going to have to deal with it. Am I really?  You seem very sure of yourself for a "new" member.
As I said earlier the reputation of the forum is one of fantasy and false information, If you want to contribute to that go for it.Â
I am a new member, I'm just saying gee I mean you seem serious and you know alot from what I'm seeing. I think your missing what I'm trying to say, in a bus forum where people are putting their own ideas its obvious that your going to find unrealistic ideas I'm not saying I want to contribute to it but I'm saying that your just going to have to deal with it unfortunately
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Post by twobellstogo on May 28, 2022 11:34:05 GMT
Want to see the 12 returned to Croydon and the 312 renumbered at next tender! A chance to make history right! The irony that people talk about finances but then want to renumber all sorts of bus routes, glad you got your priorities right 🙄 I think there is a good chance some of the threatened low numbers will actually survive as renumberings of other services, a la 82/13. I wouldn’t for instance at all rule out 211 becoming 11, if the current 11 goes.
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Post by SILENCED on May 28, 2022 11:44:03 GMT
Want to see the 12 returned to Croydon and the 312 renumbered at next tender! A chance to make history right! The irony that people talk about finances but then want to renumber all sorts of bus routes, glad you got your priorities right 🙄 The rate at which the Croydon changes are being introduced, this could be absorbed by the cost of the 312 changes, so be virtually cost neutral.
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Post by ibus246 on May 28, 2022 12:04:37 GMT
And 349. Could bring it back to South London for old time sake but it might find that old friends the 14 and 74 have left South Kensington. Want to see the 12 returned to Croydon and the 312 renumbered at next tender! A chance to make history right! Why are so many in their industry stuck in the past🙄
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Post by vjaska on May 28, 2022 12:50:17 GMT
The irony that people talk about finances but then want to renumber all sorts of bus routes, glad you got your priorities right 🙄 I think there is a good chance some of the threatened low numbers will actually survive as renumberings of other services, a la 82/13. I wouldn’t for instance at all rule out 211 becoming 11, if the current 11 goes. No doubt some directly involved in changes will change like your examples which was the original premise of the thread but when people are suggesting it simply based on history such as the 312 which will highly likely be unaffected, then IMO people have got their priorities wrong as for me, what the route does is more important than what historical value the number has
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Post by southlondonbus on May 28, 2022 13:23:12 GMT
I think there is a good chance some of the threatened low numbers will actually survive as renumberings of other services, a la 82/13. I wouldn’t for instance at all rule out 211 becoming 11, if the current 11 goes. No doubt some directly involved in changes will change like your examples which was the original premise of the thread but when people are suggesting it simply based on history such as the 312 which will highly likely be unaffected, then IMO people have got their priorities wrong as for me, what the route does is more important than what historical value the number has But I think TFL may try and use them later on to try and sweaten some of the proposals to make it look like they have listened. I can just see "route 14 saved. It will now be kept and run between Putney Heath and Baker Street".
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Post by BK15AZR on May 28, 2022 17:31:12 GMT
The irony that people talk about finances but then want to renumber all sorts of bus routes, glad you got your priorities right 🙄 I think there is a good chance some of the threatened low numbers will actually survive as renumberings of other services, a la 82/13. I wouldn’t for instance at all rule out 211 becoming 11, if the current 11 goes. And even the 328 renumbering to 31? It's sort of a spin-off from the old 31 anyway.
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Post by MetrolineGA1511 on May 28, 2022 20:06:02 GMT
I think there is a good chance some of the threatened low numbers will actually survive as renumberings of other services, a la 82/13. I wouldn’t for instance at all rule out 211 becoming 11, if the current 11 goes. And even the 328 renumbering to 31? It's sort of a spin-off from the old 31 anyway. The so-called withdrawal of route 31 could take the form of route 28 diverted back to Golders Green, route 328 diverted to Camden Town and renumbered 31, with current route 31 not replaced south of Harrow Road.
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Post by southlondonbus on May 28, 2022 20:11:35 GMT
I think there is a good chance some of the threatened low numbers will actually survive as renumberings of other services, a la 82/13. I wouldn’t for instance at all rule out 211 becoming 11, if the current 11 goes. And even the 328 renumbering to 31? It's sort of a spin-off from the old 31 anyway. We could almost be in a situation where the old 28 and 31 have simply swapped norther routings, Chelsea to Golders Green and Wandsworth to Camden Town. Its probably to save confusion with the loss of the White City section which is why the 31 number is likely to go and the 328 remain as it is.
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