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Post by greenboy on Apr 2, 2024 10:31:32 GMT
Right on cue... Ironic coming from someone who lost their Freedom Pass and claimed it was stolen and doesn't even know how much the TfL bus fare is. I think she's quite right to point out that there is no commitment on the Bakerloo Line extension here just a cheapskate alternative. |
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Post by Eastlondoner62 on Apr 2, 2024 10:37:02 GMT
How else are they meant to win votes if they don't say what they'll do after they're elected? All I am saying is if there is a genuine need for the route why is it not being proceeded with in the normal manner? The Superloop routes were a ULEZ distraction and poorly executed in some cases but were not offered only as a term of voting for the Mayor. Because you're not allowed to make a policy announcement during Purdah. You can only make pledges. If Khan is reelected I'm sure it'll go to consultation and then proceed through the normal way. |
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Post by COBO on Apr 2, 2024 11:03:49 GMT
Anybody would think that this was some kind of April Fool but it has emerged on the 2nd so it’s not a joke but looks like a joke.
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Post by greenboy on Apr 2, 2024 11:17:48 GMT
Anybody would think that this was some kind of April Fool but it has emerged on the 2nd so it’s not a joke but looks like a joke. Most of Sadiq Khan's ideas could easily be mistaken for April fools jokes🤣 🤣 |
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Post by danorak on Apr 2, 2024 11:19:29 GMT
As I said on the Superloop thread, I hope this will be refined through consultation. An express along OKR was mentioned in the Bus Action Plan so this is not out of the blue.
My concern with it is that the appeal of a Bakerloo extension is a direct link into the West End. Being turfed off at the Elephant is not attractive: a through ticket onto the Bakerloo might help. If I was going, for example New Cross Gate to Burgess Park, I don't think I'd hang around for this.
Interesting to see where it will stand at the Elephant given the limitations.
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Post by MetrolineGA1511 on Apr 2, 2024 11:21:17 GMT
Anybody would think that this was some kind of April Fool but it has emerged on the 2nd so it’s not a joke but looks like a joke. The proposal would have been outlined yesterday had it not been a Bank Holiday.  |
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Post by VWH1419 on Apr 2, 2024 11:28:01 GMT
Not a bad idea per say, more so along the Elephant and Castle + Old Kent Road Corridor, which can be quite rammed at times bus wise, without thinking of an Bakerloo Line extension. Not my area, only concern what will give in the long run, as well as running in a new 20MPH zone in Old Kent Road.
As this is election period, it would have been nice to see some alternative ideas on express bus routes from opposition parties. Instead of negative campaigns and bad point scoring, esp from Susan Hall. Again nice idea but seems hot and miss from some people?
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Post by southlondonbus on Apr 2, 2024 11:29:12 GMT
As I said on the Superloop thread, I hope this will be refined through consultation. An express along OKR was mentioned in the Bus Action Plan so this is not out of the blue. My concern with it is that the appeal of a Bakerloo extension is a direct link into the West End. Being turfed off at the Elephant is not attractive: a through ticket onto the Bakerloo might help. If I was going, for example New Cross Gate to Burgess Park, I don't think I'd hang around for this. Interesting to see where it will stand at the Elephant given the limitations. I don't want to speculate further of course but the 45/118 could still come into play even if the 45 is just cut back to Camberwell Green. Especially also when it says paid for out of the current budget. |
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Post by SILENCED on Apr 2, 2024 11:32:21 GMT
Not a bad idea per say, more so along the Elephant and Castle + Old Kent Road Corridor, which can be quite rammed at times bus wise, without thinking of an Bakerloo Line extension. Not my area, only concern what will give in the long run, as well as running in a new 20MPH zone in Old Kent Road. As this is election period, it would have been nice to see some alternative ideas on express bus routes from opposition parties. Instead of negative campaigns and bad point scoring, esp from Susan Hall. My policy would be I would ban express bus routes on 20mph roads. If they want express bus routes, councils should adhere to national standards. |
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Post by SILENCED on Apr 2, 2024 11:35:06 GMT
I’ll be the “usual” suspect with my reply. It does make me laugh how it has taken ULEZ expanding and an upcoming election to suddenly find money to create these new routes. How many years did the network go without any new routes on this scale? Have TfL given up on new normal all stops routes now? As opposed to the usual suspects of Sadiq ass lickers. He might be terrible, "but I think his great"! 🐑 |
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Post by danorak on Apr 2, 2024 11:43:55 GMT
Not a bad idea per say, more so along the Elephant and Castle + Old Kent Road Corridor, which can be quite rammed at times bus wise, without thinking of an Bakerloo Line extension. Not my area, only concern what will give in the long run, as well as running in a new 20MPH zone in Old Kent Road. As this is election period, it would have been nice to see some alternative ideas on express bus routes from opposition parties. Instead of negative campaigns and bad point scoring, esp from Susan Hall. My policy would be I would ban express bus routes on 20mph roads. If they want express bus routes, councils should adhere to national standards. Going at 20 mph over the Bricklayers Arms flyover can be infuriating. The new speed limit also impairs the usefulness of the bus lanes. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 2, 2024 12:02:36 GMT
It should definitely go further than Elephant, and into the West End to avoid having to change. If you live in Lewisham or New Cross, why would you get a bus that ends at Elephant & Castle and then change onto the Bakerloo Line or another bus to get into the West End? By the time you’ve sat on the bus to the end of the line, got off, walked into the Underground Station, waited for a train and got on it you might as well just get a Southeastern train which takes like 15/20 minutes to Charing Cross. It would be much more appealing if it was a direct express bus to the likes of Charing Cross, Leicester Square, Oxford Street etc.
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Post by M1104 on Apr 2, 2024 12:21:35 GMT
Just seen the tweet from Sadiq so basically he is saying London can only have the route if we vote for him? So basically bribing Londoners! Nothing about this route is about add to the network it’s all about him! The route doesn't run anywhere near Mitcham so no vote from me lol |
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Post by ThinLizzy on Apr 2, 2024 12:38:32 GMT
Right on cue... Ironic coming from someone who lost their Freedom Pass and claimed it was stolen and doesn't even know how much the TfL bus fare is. I think she's quite right to point out that there is no commitment on the Bakerloo Line extension here just a cheapskate alternative. Cheapskate but cost effective way of introducing a new link |
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Post by ThinLizzy on Apr 2, 2024 12:40:01 GMT
I’ll be the “usual” suspect with my reply. It does make me laugh how it has taken ULEZ expanding and an upcoming election to suddenly find money to create these new routes. How many years did the network go without any new routes on this scale? Have TfL given up on new normal all stops routes now? As opposed to the usual suspects of Sadiq ass lickers. He might be terrible, "but I think his great"! 🐑 and the usual replies from the right wing lickers of the same area 🙄 |
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