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Post by TB123 on Apr 2, 2024 12:43:36 GMT
As opposed to the usual suspects of Sadiq ass lickers. He might be terrible, "but I think his great"! 🐑 and the usual replies from the right wing lickers of the same area 🙄 But Susan Hall will cancel their ULEZ and oppose it! Like she did with the North & South Circ zone! Just like her mate Tuckwell in Uxbridge who won the by-election on the basis he'd stop it all happening! Oh wait. |
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Post by joefrombow on Apr 2, 2024 13:04:30 GMT
and the usual replies from the right wing lickers of the same area 🙄 But Susan Hall will cancel their ULEZ and oppose it! Like she did with the North & South Circ zone! Just like her mate Tuckwell in Uxbridge who won the by-election on the basis he'd stop it all happening! Oh wait. This nonsense is why politics is how it is these days, people see politics like West Ham or Millwall that's the team they like and that's that , you can not like all the policies of one party but like some ideas or vice versa all this staunch red , staunch blue gets no one anywhere , I disagree with Sadiq on a lot of things however he can still have a good idea , the same way Susan Hall can etc I disagree with a lot of Tory politics however the £2 cap for example is a good idea ... |
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Post by TB123 on Apr 2, 2024 13:06:23 GMT
But Susan Hall will cancel their ULEZ and oppose it! Like she did with the North & South Circ zone! Just like her mate Tuckwell in Uxbridge who won the by-election on the basis he'd stop it all happening! Oh wait. This nonsense is why politics is how it is these days, people see politics like West Ham or Millwall that's the team they like and that's that , you can not like all the policies of one party but like some ideas or vice versa all this staunch red , staunch blue gets no one anywhere , I disagree with Sadiq on a lot of things however he can still have a good idea , the same way Susan Hall can etc I disagree with a lot of Tory politics however the £2 cap for example is a good idea ... The £2 fare cap was a policy by Labour Mayor's - Andy Burnham, Dan Norris, Tracey Brabin and Steve Rotherham, that was then adopted by the Tories as a national cost-of-living policy and has now been extended. |
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Post by southlondonbus on Apr 2, 2024 13:26:07 GMT
and the usual replies from the right wing lickers of the same area 🙄 But Susan Hall will cancel their ULEZ and oppose it! Like she did with the North & South Circ zone! Just like her mate Tuckwell in Uxbridge who won the by-election on the basis he'd stop it all happening! Oh wait. Technically they don't have the power to stop it. |
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Post by WH241 on Apr 2, 2024 13:35:33 GMT
As opposed to the usual suspects of Sadiq ass lickers. He might be terrible, "but I think his great"! 🐑 and the usual replies from the right wing lickers of the same area 🙄 You can’t blame some of the replies when there is goading and cheap potshots from the member especially when it comes to anything Labour! I am very much on the fence with politics at the moment. |
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Post by danorak on Apr 2, 2024 13:37:13 GMT
I think she's quite right to point out that there is no commitment on the Bakerloo Line extension here just a cheapskate alternative. Cheapskate but cost effective way of introducing a new link But what new link is it introducing? There's nothing here that can't be done directly by other means. If you're continuing beyond Elephant or Lewisham, will the time saving be worth the additional change? Don't get me wrong, I'm all in favour of more of these routes, but I think it needs to do more than just pretending to be the Bakerloo line. |
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Post by southlondon413 on Apr 2, 2024 13:46:39 GMT
Cheapskate but cost effective way of introducing a new link But what new link is it introducing? There's nothing here that can't be done directly by other means. If you're continuing beyond Elephant or Lewisham, will the time saving be worth the additional change? Don't get me wrong, I'm all in favour of more of these routes, but I think it needs to do more than just pretending to be the Bakerloo line. I think it would be better for TfL to invest the money they would use on this contract and work with the council on street improvement projects on OKR with enforced 24 hour bus lanes, traffic calming measures etc to speed up buses. I don’t doubt there is an appetite for faster journeys but that could be done in a way that benefits all passengers and not just a select few. |
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Post by vjaska on Apr 2, 2024 15:26:55 GMT
I put it in the other thread but I might as well post it here:
I'm not fussed about the money aspect but I don't think this is as brilliant as it sounds - Superloop routes should really be confined to brand new links that don't exist rather than simply plonking one on a corridor and duplicating routes already in place. By all means, stick some meaningful bus priority in along Old Kent Road but I don't see the need for this route unlike the Bakerloo extension. Also, the Labour assembly member for Lewisham & Greenwich should remember that Lambeth doesn't merely consist of Waterloo only and that maybe resident's of Lewisham might like improved links to other parts of Lambeth - would like to know if he has previously lobbied for improving links between Lewisham & Lambeth (and not just Waterloo) before? No doubt Lambeth council will simply nod and agree here - they aren't fussed with fighting for their own routes anyway
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Post by PGAT on Apr 2, 2024 17:23:30 GMT
Right on cue... Ironic coming from someone who lost their Freedom Pass and claimed it was stolen and doesn't even know how much the TfL bus fare is. I think she's quite right to point out that there is no commitment on the Bakerloo Line extension here just a cheapskate alternative. The Bakerloo line extension won't be around for at least a decade and is dependent on proper government funding to come to fruition. Am I the only one here that thinks having an express bus along the route is actually sensible? It's cheap, easy and quick to implement and if it gets good loadings it will make the extension more likely to actually happen. And it's not like this is an alternative as if Khan has decided to scrap it |
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Post by greenboy on Apr 2, 2024 17:34:29 GMT
I think she's quite right to point out that there is no commitment on the Bakerloo Line extension here just a cheapskate alternative. The Bakerloo line extension won't be around for at least a decade and is dependent on proper government funding to come to fruition. Am I the only one here that thinks having an express bus along the route is actually sensible? It's cheap, easy and quick to implement and if it gets good loadings it will make the extension more likely to actually happen. And it's not like this is an alternative as if Khan has decided to scrap it Well the Bakerloo Line extension has been talked about for 50 years or more and never during that time has an express bus service been deemed necessary but now suddenly it is just before the mayoral election. I'd rather such matters went through due process rather than at the whim of a mayor trying to increase his popularity. |
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Post by TB123 on Apr 2, 2024 17:35:42 GMT
I think she's quite right to point out that there is no commitment on the Bakerloo Line extension here just a cheapskate alternative. The Bakerloo line extension won't be around for at least a decade and is dependent on proper government funding to come to fruition. Am I the only one here that thinks having an express bus along the route is actually sensible? It's cheap, easy and quick to implement and if it gets good loadings it will make the extension more likely to actually happen. And it's not like this is an alternative as if Khan has decided to scrap it Well said... |
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Post by WH241 on Apr 2, 2024 17:40:59 GMT
I think she's quite right to point out that there is no commitment on the Bakerloo Line extension here just a cheapskate alternative. The Bakerloo line extension won't be around for at least a decade and is dependent on proper government funding to come to fruition. Am I the only one here that thinks having an express bus along the route is actually sensible? It's cheap, easy and quick to implement and if it gets good loadings it will make the extension more likely to actually happen. And it's not like this is an alternative as if Khan has decided to scrap it Cheap and easy to implement therefore the government whoever that might be could argue is the line needed if the bus does the job. |
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Post by TB123 on Apr 2, 2024 17:46:35 GMT
The Bakerloo line extension won't be around for at least a decade and is dependent on proper government funding to come to fruition. Am I the only one here that thinks having an express bus along the route is actually sensible? It's cheap, easy and quick to implement and if it gets good loadings it will make the extension more likely to actually happen. And it's not like this is an alternative as if Khan has decided to scrap it Cheap and easy to implement therefore the government whoever that might be could argue is the line needed if the bus does the job. Or it could be such a success at mopping up the loads from the new homes along the Old Kent Road that to enable 10,500 more homes and the land value uplift that brings they go for the Tube line extension.... |
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Post by southlondonbus on Apr 2, 2024 17:51:16 GMT
Cheap and easy to implement therefore the government whoever that might be could argue is the line needed if the bus does the job. Or it could be such a success at mopping up the loads from the new homes along the Old Kent Road that to enable 10,500 more homes and the land value uplift that brings they go for the Tube line extension.... New tube line are a big commitment thou as was found with the cost of the Elizabeth line and HS2 that kept rising |
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Post by PGAT on Apr 2, 2024 18:02:46 GMT
The Bakerloo line extension won't be around for at least a decade and is dependent on proper government funding to come to fruition. Am I the only one here that thinks having an express bus along the route is actually sensible? It's cheap, easy and quick to implement and if it gets good loadings it will make the extension more likely to actually happen. And it's not like this is an alternative as if Khan has decided to scrap it Cheap and easy to implement therefore the government whoever that might be could argue is the line needed if the bus does the job. If the bus is crushloaded and the roads and gridlock then it's easy to argue against that |
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