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Post by Eastlondoner62 on Apr 11, 2024 21:45:06 GMT
This man is so desperate 😂 he’ll say anything to get him to be mayor again. Is rating low or something 😂 is getting the feeling that he will be low votes and won’t be mayor again do to his controversial Ulez and so is saying anything. Khan's net approval is in the positives and is increasing. So his rating is anything but low |
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Post by COBO on Apr 11, 2024 21:46:16 GMT
This man is so desperate 😂 he’ll say anything to get him to be mayor again. Is rating low or something 😂 is getting the feeling that he will be low votes and won’t be mayor again do to his controversial Ulez and so is saying anything. Khan's net approval is in the positives and is increasing. So his rating is anything but low His rating is high but he’s still acting desperate oh how bizarre 😂 |
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Post by enviroPB on Apr 11, 2024 21:49:32 GMT
Sadiq Khan pledging to introduce a new Golders Green to Stamford Hill single deck bus route if re-elected. Mention of the 210 as I assume it would parallel it or be part of it in some way. This would link up two of London's largest Jewish communities. I cannot see the 210 going down to single deckers and being extended to Stamford Hill. TfL will either reroute the current 210 via Hornsey Road to Finsbury Park onto Stamford Hill, or localise a new Stamford Hill- Golders Green route with single deckers & the 210 likely truncated to Archway or possibly Hornsey Rise. I honestly cannot see the 210 being extended, regardless of vehicle type. |
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Post by bk10mfe on Apr 11, 2024 22:03:08 GMT
I think it’s a possibility new route (as I said before I imagine 310 will be the number used), should go through almost entirely separate areas to the 210, running through Crouch End, Highgate Station, part of the A1 & the Hampstead Garden Suburb. There is the risk though that this could take away demands from other routes instead though, especially the W7.
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Post by redbus on Apr 11, 2024 22:24:13 GMT
I am not sure there is the demand and as said TfL have looked at this and there was no business case for such a route and I am unsure anything has changed other than politics. I am not quite sure how if re-elected the pledge can be made good without opening up the floodgates to other such ideas.
That said, I think a bus linking GG and Stamford Hill is actually a good idea. The expectation would be take a lot of long distance travellers, so why not leave the 210 alone and introduce a new Superloop bus taking the fastest direct route possible with limited stops and perhaps even going onto to say Clapton. This would attract more long distance travellers as the bus would be real viable alternative and hopefully get people out of their cars.
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Post by ServerKing on Apr 11, 2024 22:39:27 GMT
This man is so desperate 😂 he’ll say anything to get him to be mayor again. Is rating low or something 😂 is getting the feeling that he will be low votes and won’t be mayor again do to his controversial Ulez and so is saying anything. Khan's net approval is in the positives and is increasing. So his rating is anything but low That's because he's got very poor opponents. It's like Man City playing in League Two, so it's an easy win... What will be interesting is if a potential Labour government will bail him out the way Boris and Rishi have in the last few months? |
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Post by COBO on Apr 11, 2024 22:55:20 GMT
Khan's net approval is in the positives and is increasing. So his rating is anything but low That's because he's got very poor opponents. It's like Man City playing in League Two, so it's an easy win... What will be interesting is if a potential Labour government will bail him out the way Boris and Rishi have in the last few months? Almost like it was done on purpose 😂 |
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Post by vjaska on Apr 12, 2024 0:52:41 GMT
I think it’s a possibility new route (as I said before I imagine 310 will be the number used), should go through almost entirely separate areas to the 210, running through Crouch End, Highgate Station, part of the A1 & the Hampstead Garden Suburb. There is the risk though that this could take away demands from other routes instead though, especially the W7. The W7 is designed as a commuter route linking Muswell Hill & Crouch End to the tube at Finsbury Park whereas this new route is linking Stamford Hill to Golders Green via whatever inbetween so the W7 won't be affected pretty much at all. The 210 is the one with the most effect happening to it because I find it extremely unlikely any new route will run to Golders Green via Crouch End & Muswell Hill. My worry is that what will happen is it won't be a new route but the 210 will drop back to single decker instead, which is a poor move if it happens personally, and the Golders Green to Brent Cross section tagged onto a different route - probably the 268 given it's short overall routing and small common section with the 210 up to Jack Straws Castle. The only way I could see a new route co-existing with the 210 would be if it only duplicated the Golders Green to Archway section with the new route running via Holloway, Nags Head, Finsbury Park, Upper Tollington Park, Harringay Green Lanes, St Anns Road & Stamford Hill which would avoid large duplications in the main and potentially create some new links. It would also take it under two low bridges and so would justify single deckers being used |
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Post by matthieu1221 on Apr 12, 2024 2:51:34 GMT
Really not a fan of Sadiq using the election to bribe London with new bus routes. If there is demand on these corridors for these services they should be looking to introduce the routes regardless. He maybe needs to start looking at other issues away from buses. I will probably get shot down in flames. Tell me you don't understand democracy without telling me you don't understand democracy. It's not a bribe. It's policies. People vote for policies. You don't get them without voting for said politician. To suggest it is, is absurd. "They" should be looking to introduce these services? TfL is an organisation with democratic oversight by an elected Mayor. Elected politicians are going to decide the strategy through the Mayor's Transport Strategy. Sadiq has done announcements recently on violence against women, police, council housing, jobs and much more. Keep up dear! I personally think it's great buses are getting some attention I think what feels a little unorthodox is the minutiae of the announcement. You'd expect just a big announcement that x million will be pledged on buses with this as the guiding principles with TfL then deciding the specifics post-election (so something vague like Ken's ill-fated 2008 campaign, or even perhaps all his campaigns) -- the pledge to bring buses back into public ownership for example. Maybe it's a sign that money has dried up so much that pledges are now on an individual-route basis rather than a nice package of service uplifts. More bus is better than less bus in my opinion though. So hopefully the trickle of extra services promised from Bakerloop to this continues as the campaign heats up. |
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Post by greenboy on Apr 12, 2024 4:45:24 GMT
Really not a fan of Sadiq using the election to bribe London with new bus routes. If there is demand on these corridors for these services they should be looking to introduce the routes regardless. He maybe needs to start looking at other issues away from buses. I will probably get shot down in flames. Tell me you don't understand democracy without telling me you don't understand democracy. It's not a bribe. It's policies. People vote for policies. You don't get them without voting for said politician. To suggest it is, is absurd. "They" should be looking to introduce these services? TfL is an organisation with democratic oversight by an elected Mayor. Elected politicians are going to decide the strategy through the Mayor's Transport Strategy. Sadiq has done announcements recently on violence against women, police, council housing, jobs and much more. Keep up dear! I personally think it's great buses are getting some attention Oh seriously is there really a desperate need for a bus service from Golders Green to Stamford Hill? And if there is why wasn't it introduced at the start of his tenure? And why the sudden concern about violence against women? His record on violence in general has been nothing short of lamentable. |
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Post by wirewiper on Apr 12, 2024 7:08:40 GMT
The elephant in the room - although TB123 mentioned it in the initial post.
This specific route would link two large Jewish communities - and was being spoken about at a Jewish Community Hustings for London Mayoral Candidates, being held at a major North London Jewish cultural centre (JW3). Hence the emphasis on this particular route at this particular Hustings.
I'm sure it wasn't the only issue talked about at the Hustings - although it is the one that would be of interest to a forum of bus enthusiasts. And it is a link that has been proposed and called for in the past.
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Post by Green Kitten on Apr 12, 2024 7:22:39 GMT
Downgrading a relatively bus route just to provide a link is not a good idea. Leave the 210 alone and think of another way to provide the link - as there is benefit of directly linking two Jewish communities. His rating is high but he’s still acting desperate oh how bizarre 😂 It's always a good idea not to rest on your laurels in the game of politics. |
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Post by T.R. on Apr 12, 2024 7:57:55 GMT
Hmm… let’s not mess with the 210. Though a new route would duplicate a lot of it I guess. Can’t the Road at Finsbury Park be lowered? Stroud Green Road is on a slight gradient. Even so, the bus station exits on either side complicate matters further. In fact the height went down from 12’9 to 12’0 over the last couple of decades… |
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Post by ServerKing on Apr 12, 2024 8:02:42 GMT
Tell me you don't understand democracy without telling me you don't understand democracy. It's not a bribe. It's policies. People vote for policies. You don't get them without voting for said politician. To suggest it is, is absurd. "They" should be looking to introduce these services? TfL is an organisation with democratic oversight by an elected Mayor. Elected politicians are going to decide the strategy through the Mayor's Transport Strategy. Sadiq has done announcements recently on violence against women, police, council housing, jobs and much more. Keep up dear! I personally think it's great buses are getting some attention Oh seriously is there really a desperate need for a bus service from Golders Green to Stamford Hill? And if there is why wasn't it introduced at the start of his tenure? And why the sudden concern about violence against women? His record on violence in general has been nothing short of lamentable. They have enough bus routes in the area, this would mess up the 210 and 393 and over bus the area. Anyone needing to get between the two areas which are some distance away could pick an Uber. I'd like to take my kids shopping more. Can they set up a bus route between Wood Green and Lakeside?  |
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Post by greenboy on Apr 12, 2024 8:08:20 GMT
Whilst I don't see this as anything other than a political gimmick if it were to happen the 210 could be rerouted via Holloway to avoid the low bridge with the 143 possibly extended to Finsbury Park via Hornsey Rise?
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