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Post by greenboy on Apr 13, 2024 6:37:36 GMT
There’s probably too much going on to lower the road under the bridge, but if it can be done it would be beneficial to the public purse in the long run. I was under the impression that the tube tunnels are too close to the road surface to allow the road to be lowered. Quite possibly but the whole idea is a non starter anyway. |
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Post by ADH45258 on Apr 13, 2024 9:53:20 GMT
Would it not be possible to just divert the 210 via Fonthill Road, in order to avoid the low bridge at Finsbury Park Station?
Using Lennox Road towards Stamford Hill, and Tollington Park towards Archway (also looping around Coleridge Road).
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Post by matthieu1221 on Apr 13, 2024 17:57:03 GMT
Public ownership should help. Takes an absurd amount of time between consultation, tendering (or renegotiation) and what-not nowadays. The only shortened obstacle would be the tendering/negotiation stage. The consultation, risk assessments, sourcing additional vehicles, union hurdles, staffing etc would all still exist. That can be the one of the longest stages as we've seen previously so it would still help immensely. Some of the changes which have recently happened were conducted on the old consultations website -- and that has been gone for a few years already. |
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Post by southlondonbus on Apr 13, 2024 18:07:28 GMT
If only someone would say publicly they would like an Ilford to Oxford Circus link as hey presto 2 weeks later Khan would be saying if I win the election I will create that link hehe.
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Post by southlondon413 on Apr 13, 2024 18:18:44 GMT
If only someone would say publicly they would like an Ilford to Oxford Circus link as hey presto 2 weeks later Khan would be saying if I win the election I will create that link hehe. I guess it would depend on which religious group Labour was pandering to that week. Definitely not christians or catholics. |
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Post by Eastlondoner62 on Apr 13, 2024 18:23:53 GMT
If only someone would say publicly they would like an Ilford to Oxford Circus link as hey presto 2 weeks later Khan would be saying if I win the election I will create that link hehe. I guess it would depend on which religious group Labour was pandering to that week. Definitely not christians or catholics. Before opening the rabbit hole that Catholics are Christians, the Manor Park area hosts a significant population of South Asian Christians which is why you see umpteen churches in the area and the surrounding area, that's not to mention the sizeable Christian population of Ilford as well. |
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Post by WH241 on Apr 13, 2024 19:08:25 GMT
If only someone would say publicly they would like an Ilford to Oxford Circus link as hey presto 2 weeks later Khan would be saying if I win the election I will create that link hehe. It's good to see some are seeing through Khan and the game he is playing  |
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Post by southlondonbus on Apr 13, 2024 19:09:01 GMT
If only someone would say publicly they would like an Ilford to Oxford Circus link as hey presto 2 weeks later Khan would be saying if I win the election I will create that link hehe. I guess it would depend on which religious group Labour was pandering to that week. Definitely not christians or catholics. Nothing is more blatant then him trying to court the Jewish vote then the current proposal. Its a vote he certainly would struggle to get with his public Gaza stance. |
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Post by MetrolineGA1511 on Apr 13, 2024 20:19:10 GMT
The way I see TFL going about it, given the 210 has been mentioned, is the 210 being increased in frequency and converted to single deck. Cut back to Golders Green and extended to Stamford Hill. Then something else tweaked/extended to cover the Brent Cross section. It would probably be route 268 extended to Brent Cross. EDIT : I see other people have already suggested this. |
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Post by MetrolineGA1511 on Apr 13, 2024 20:23:44 GMT
Oh seriously is there really a desperate need for a bus service from Golders Green to Stamford Hill? And if there is why wasn't it introduced at the start of his tenure? And why the sudden concern about violence against women? His record on violence in general has been nothing short of lamentable. They have enough bus routes in the area, this would mess up the 210 and 393 and over bus the area. Anyone needing to get between the two areas which are some distance away could pick an Uber. I'd like to take my kids shopping more. Can they set up a bus route between Wood Green and Lakeside?  It's a pity Eastern National withdrew their route 251 in 1981. This could have gone via Lakeside  |
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Post by sdaniel on Apr 13, 2024 22:12:55 GMT
Sadiq Khan pledging to introduce a new Golders Green to Stamford Hill single deck bus route if re-elected. Mention of the 210 as I assume it would parallel it or be part of it in some way. This would link up two of London's largest Jewish communities. A new route (310) should be introduced. 210 is fine as it is with the eastern side of the route. 319 running between Golders Green and Stamford Hill via, Henley’s Corner, (A1) Hampstead Garden Suburb, Highgate Station, Shepherd's Hill, Freme Park Road, Lancaster Road, B150 to Green Lanes, Manor House then Stamford Hill Station. Sadiq should make 603 a day bus or rerouting the 268 to Muswell Hill or Southgate or even extending 240 to Camden Town. |
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Post by evergreenadam on Apr 13, 2024 22:18:58 GMT
The way I see TFL going about it, given the 210 has been mentioned, is the 210 being increased in frequency and converted to single deck. Cut back to Golders Green and extended to Stamford Hill. Then something else tweaked/extended to cover the Brent Cross section. It would probably be route 268 extended to Brent Cross. EDIT : I see other people have already suggested this. Are there many cross Golders Green journeys on the 210 or is there a lot of churn there? |
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Post by joefrombow on Apr 13, 2024 23:03:59 GMT
Sadiq Khan pledging to introduce a new Golders Green to Stamford Hill single deck bus route if re-elected. Mention of the 210 as I assume it would parallel it or be part of it in some way. This would link up two of London's largest Jewish communities. A new route (310) should be introduced. 210 is fine as it is with the eastern side of the route. 319 running between Golders Green and Stamford Hill via, Henley’s Corner, (A1) Hampstead Garden Suburb, Highgate Station, Shepherd's Hill, Freme Park Road, Lancaster Road, B150 to Green Lanes, Manor House then Stamford Hill Station. Sadiq should make 603 a day bus or rerouting the 268 to Muswell Hill or Southgate or even extending 240 to Camden Town. I Haven't used the 210 since the early 2000s when I used to go galavanting and exploring and when it was operated by F.E Thorpes with those beasty Euro 2 Darts . I found it was a pretty decent route back then , long enough and fairly well used and I remember a pretty straight section aswell where you would get a decent thrash with the right driver 🤓 I just looked on LBR histories and also see it's one of the longest routes to remain and has been running from Brent Cross to Finsbury Park since 1976 !! , Not used it for a long time so wouldn't know if it needs a extension/cut back ? But Is this "long been asked for a route between the two places" thing true though or just electioneering ? What next a WestHamloop direct express bus from Rainham , Harold Hill , Romford and Dagenham to Queen Elizabeth Stadium with Pearly King/Queen Conductors serving Pie and Mash on Match days only to secure the Havering/Dagenham vote ? I think he should be focussing on a lot more than giving everyone a bus who votes for him oh and claiming he is going to be taking buses back under LT control ( like they aren't already anyway , contracting makes zero difference in London service wise to how it would be otherwise ) |
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Post by vjaska on Apr 14, 2024 1:20:58 GMT
A new route (310) should be introduced. 210 is fine as it is with the eastern side of the route. 319 running between Golders Green and Stamford Hill via, Henley’s Corner, (A1) Hampstead Garden Suburb, Highgate Station, Shepherd's Hill, Freme Park Road, Lancaster Road, B150 to Green Lanes, Manor House then Stamford Hill Station. Sadiq should make 603 a day bus or rerouting the 268 to Muswell Hill or Southgate or even extending 240 to Camden Town. I Haven't used the 210 since the early 2000s when I used to go galavanting and exploring and when it was operated by F.E Thorpes with those beasty Euro 2 Darts . I found it was a pretty decent route back then , long enough and fairly well used and I remember a pretty straight section aswell where you would get a decent thrash with the right driver 🤓 I just looked on LBR histories and also see it's one of the longest routes to remain and has been running from Brent Cross to Finsbury Park since 1976 !! , Not used it for a long time so wouldn't know if it needs a extension/cut back ? But Is this "long been asked for a route between the two places" thing true though or just electioneering ? What next a WestHamloop direct express bus from Rainham , Harold Hill , Romford and Dagenham to Queen Elizabeth Stadium with Pearly King/Queen Conductors serving Pie and Mash on Match days only to secure the Havering/Dagenham vote ? I think he should be focussing on a lot more than giving everyone a bus who votes for him oh and claiming he is going to be taking buses back under LT control ( like they aren't already anyway , contracting makes zero difference in London service wise to how it would be otherwise ) This link has long been asked for by locals and does have merit in it though I do think this particular proposal is more so electioneering - that said, literally everything could be classed as electioneering. He'll likely be back in so we'll see if he sticks to his promise - just hopefully, the 210 really isn't messed about for this purpose though. |
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Post by vjaska on Apr 14, 2024 1:30:56 GMT
I guess it would depend on which religious group Labour was pandering to that week. Definitely not christians or catholics. Nothing is more blatant then him trying to court the Jewish vote then the current proposal. Its a vote he certainly would struggle to get with his public Gaza stance. His stance on Gaza is for a ceasefire - I'm no fan of his but he called for this long before even the Labour Party changed their position on it and I'm not sure what this has to do with how Jewish people will vote in all honesty? A lot of Jews do not like (rightfully IMO) Netanyahu and his awful government with protests from ordinary Israeli's growing by the day over the bombardment of Gaza which is why I don't think that will affect how people vote for Khan. Furthermore, religious leaders here in London from both Islamic and Jewish communities have long built successful relationships between both religions and their respective communities so again, I can't see any effect here particularly now Labour has moved away from the antisemitism years of terrorist Corbyn and his crony terrorist McDonald. I get the link between the bus route and Jewish votes though - I personally don't have an issue with it (the broad proposal, not the aspect of potentially mucking about with the 210) so long as he actually follows through with his promise - if he doesn't, he'll be rightfully vilified. |
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