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Post by bk10mfe on Apr 30, 2024 13:12:11 GMT
I see Dagenham being mentioned almost daily but are people so sure there is demand? TfL decided not to even bother reintroducing the weekend night service on the 145 and that to me says it all really. I am sure it would be nice to have services in all parts at night but if the demand is not there then how can it be justified. Even if a service was introduced it probably would never cover its costs even if demand built up over time. There were several complaints about there being no night services around Dagenham in the consultation regarding the 145(N), with the nearest options being the N15 & 365(N). If the 174 went 24hrs & the N86 was cut back to Romford, this would likely not cost very much & provide Dagenham with a useful night service. |
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Post by enviroPB on Apr 30, 2024 18:54:52 GMT
Never say never! When I was attacked in 2017 and was forcibly driven to Newham General by a friend's mother at the time who was also a nurse, I was told at half 2 in the morning to make my way to Royal London. I'd say my jaw dropped to the floor upon hearing that, but unfortunately that was already the case as it was broken. Didn't want to get drawn into this debate or indeed this duplicate thread, but it's foolish to think all hospital staff are on the same two shift patterns. It is far from the case as consultants, lab technicians, pharmacy staff and support staff like porters and security guards all co-exist in a hospital. They finish as late as 1am and start as early as 3am. That's not even mentioning doctors who are prone to finishing shifts late due to chronic under-funding. I echo joefrombow 's sentiments in saying that if there is demand at night to hospitals with A&E departments, they should be served. Surely night buses exist to serve passengers already making these journeys, it'd be a smart use of resources to capture as much patronage as possible. So sorry to hear, I genuinely am. I also got attacked in 2017 the 1st night of GoAhead running the 5 group. The ambulance service were to busy to attend so the old bill drove me to Whipps X but then the trauma just continued. This is a core reason why I am always wary whilst travelling at night. Thanks for the well wishes. Merde happens as the French say. Coincidentally I was hospitalised the day of the 5 group tender results in 2017. My physical injuries healed fast, however it took a few months for me to mentally get over being homophobically attacked. Traveling in London at any time, you have to keep your wits about you especially after the news today in Hainult. I do hope you've fully recovered. 🙏 |
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Post by bk10mfe on May 1, 2024 8:57:57 GMT
New night route N114: Uxbridge-Mill Hill Broadway. Would follow the U1 between Uxbridge & Ruislip, then the current daytime 114 to Mill Hill Broadway.
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Post by southlondonbus on May 1, 2024 10:27:28 GMT
New night route N114: Uxbridge-Mill Hill Broadway. Would follow the U1 between Uxbridge & Ruislip, then the current daytime 114 to Mill Hill Broadway. I think Ruislip is having its night bus in the form of the N518. I can't see anythingelse being considered. |
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Post by londonbusbro on May 1, 2024 10:32:01 GMT
make the 407 24 hour since places like wallington arent served at night
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Post by greenboy on May 1, 2024 10:58:20 GMT
make the 407 24 hour since places like wallington arent served at night Or make the 154 a 24 hour service or restore the N213 back to Croydon. I don't think the Caterham end of the 407 justifies a night service. |
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Post by bk10mfe on May 1, 2024 11:02:24 GMT
New night route N114: Uxbridge-Mill Hill Broadway. Would follow the U1 between Uxbridge & Ruislip, then the current daytime 114 to Mill Hill Broadway. I think Ruislip is having its night bus in the form of the N518. I can't see anythingelse being considered. It’s not just Ruislip apart from the N98 there’s also no night services in the whole Kenton/Queensbury area & giving Uxbridge a link to Ruislip at night could be worthwhile. The 114 also did used to have a weekend night service. |
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Post by londonbuses on May 1, 2024 11:07:19 GMT
make the 407 24 hour since places like wallington arent served at night An N154 roughly paralleling the 154 would probably be a better idea - I would have it follow the 164 between Morden and Rosehill Roundabout, 407 between Sutton Town Centre and Carshalton (so it serves Sutton properly, as opposed to only serving the bottom of the High Street) and 157 between Wallington and Waddon, with the rest of the route following the 154. A night service on the 127 could also be quite a good idea, linking Hackbridge, Carshalton, Wallington and Woodcote to the night tube/night buses in Tooting (and also St Georges Hospital). |
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Post by southlondon413 on May 1, 2024 11:07:25 GMT
make the 407 24 hour since places like wallington arent served at night Or make the 154 a 24 hour service or restore the N213 back to Croydon. I don't think the Caterham end of the 407 justifies a night service. I think an N154 would really only be needed on the weekend. Nightlife in Croydon and Sutton is non-existent these days and Kingston isn’t much better. |
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Post by aaron1 on May 1, 2024 11:14:56 GMT
I would make 245 and 260 24 hours so it would give like Golders Green to Cricklewood Willesden and Sudbury to Wembley and To Cricklewood at night
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Post by abellion on May 1, 2024 14:27:26 GMT
make the 407 24 hour since places like wallington arent served at night An N154 roughly paralleling the 154 would probably be a better idea - I would have it follow the 164 between Morden and Rosehill Roundabout, 407 between Sutton Town Centre and Carshalton (so it serves Sutton properly, as opposed to only serving the bottom of the High Street) and 157 between Wallington and Waddon, with the rest of the route following the 154. A night service on the 127 could also be quite a good idea, linking Hackbridge, Carshalton, Wallington and Woodcote to the night tube/night buses in Tooting (and also St Georges Hospital). I’m not convinced about the 127, it passes a lot of quiet areas and the demand is very low when I use it at night. |
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Post by PGAT on May 1, 2024 15:48:01 GMT
SL7 at night instead. Ticks the boxes of places devoid from night services such as Wallington and Carshalton. Also for better value for money scrap the 213 at night. It currently is the least used route at night so I’d say its fair enough to remove a night service from some of the smaller less important stops
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Post by southlondonbus on May 1, 2024 16:47:28 GMT
SL7 at night instead. Ticks the boxes of places devoid from night services such as Wallington and Carshalton. Also for better value for money scrap the 213 at night. It currently is the least used route at night so I’d say its fair enough to remove a night service from some of the smaller less important stops Unfortunately might not be an option for much longer if the SL5 and SL7 changes go ahead but yes I have always thought it would be a good thing. I think it was considered at the 2017 tender. |
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Post by matthieu1221 on May 1, 2024 17:18:24 GMT
SL7 at night instead. Ticks the boxes of places devoid from night services such as Wallington and Carshalton. Also for better value for money scrap the 213 at night. It currently is the least used route at night so I’d say its fair enough to remove a night service from some of the smaller less important stops Why not just have an all stops version? In NYC, the Select Bus Service routes (their sort of limited stop BRT-lite) usually operate alongside an all stop service during the day but overnight the all stop service takes over. |
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Post by bk10mfe on May 1, 2024 18:26:46 GMT
SL7 at night instead. Ticks the boxes of places devoid from night services such as Wallington and Carshalton. Also for better value for money scrap the 213 at night. It currently is the least used route at night so I’d say its fair enough to remove a night service from some of the smaller less important stops Why not just have an all stops version? In NYC, the Select Bus Service routes (their sort of limited stop BRT-lite) usually operate alongside an all stop service during the day but overnight the all stop service takes over. If you wanted to introduce a night service on the SL7, it would need to cover all the stops on the 213/285, including the detours they take along their routes, as you would probably need to remove their night services if you were to you were to make the SL7 24hrs. Alternatively, to make the N250 a bit more useful, you could extend that to Sutton, would run via Croydon flyover, Duppas Hill Road, Epsom Road/Stafford Road in the other direction, Purley Way, then the 407 LOR to Sutton Town Centre. |
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