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Post by southlondonbus on Jun 11, 2024 4:41:19 GMT
It has been rumoured that the road past the British Museum will be pedestrianised which would likely leave the 14 needing a new terminus and with TCR pretty full then Piccadilly Circus would be the likely place. The 19 would still link Museum Street to Knightsbridge and I would still say Piccadilly Circus is a pretty central location. I would argue Piccadilly Circus is more than full too though🤷🏽♂️ The only time buses are curtailed due to events is when the 9 and 23 get piled up on Haymarket like herds of cows and Charles II street where there is space as the 94 would probably be curtailed to OXO. Theres merit and space at TCR if it diverted via St Giles and Seven Dials from Denmark Street and stood at the current 8 stand and then start journeys at St Giles to Cambridge Circus. could the 8 not be moved to the new unused stand at Cambridge Circus and can just turn to New Oxford Street as it does instead of Earnshaw Street, where its had a notorious amount of collisions What happened to the stand the 22 used to use? Could that be be used again. Also the 94 is alot less frequent then it used to be so probably max only has 2 buses on the stand. |
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Post by matthieu1221 on Jun 11, 2024 18:03:08 GMT
I would argue Piccadilly Circus is more than full too though🤷🏽♂️ The only time buses are curtailed due to events is when the 9 and 23 get piled up on Haymarket like herds of cows and Charles II street where there is space as the 94 would probably be curtailed to OXO. Theres merit and space at TCR if it diverted via St Giles and Seven Dials from Denmark Street and stood at the current 8 stand and then start journeys at St Giles to Cambridge Circus. could the 8 not be moved to the new unused stand at Cambridge Circus and can just turn to New Oxford Street as it does instead of Earnshaw Street, where its had a notorious amount of collisions What happened to the stand the 22 used to use? Could that be be used again. Also the 94 is alot less frequent then it used to be so probably max only has 2 buses on the stand. Still there though not used (I assume you are referring to the one behind the 94 at Charles II Street rather than the one directly on Regent Street St. James from longer back which I believe the kerb extension has eaten up.) The entire area might get a shake up though with changes to stands with the upcoming Regent Street Vision in the next few years. Wouldn’t surprise me if the gyratory working goes and one of either Haymarket or Regent Street St. James is pedestrianised. |
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Post by greg on Jun 11, 2024 22:35:44 GMT
What happened to the stand the 22 used to use? Could that be be used again. Also the 94 is alot less frequent then it used to be so probably max only has 2 buses on the stand. Still there though not used (I assume you are referring to the one behind the 94 at Charles II Street rather than the one directly on Regent Street St. James from longer back which I believe the kerb extension has eaten up.) The entire area might get a shake up though with changes to stands with the upcoming Regent Street Vision in the next few years. Wouldn’t surprise me if the gyratory working goes and one of either Haymarket or Regent Street St. James is pedestrianised. I think its used by tour buses? Stand to be corrected though |
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Post by borneobus on Jun 12, 2024 3:51:15 GMT
Still there though not used (I assume you are referring to the one behind the 94 at Charles II Street rather than the one directly on Regent Street St. James from longer back which I believe the kerb extension has eaten up.) The entire area might get a shake up though with changes to stands with the upcoming Regent Street Vision in the next few years. Wouldn’t surprise me if the gyratory working goes and one of either Haymarket or Regent Street St. James is pedestrianised. I think its used by tour buses? Stand to be corrected though I'm vaguely familiar with this stand having used it for a 94 e2e - looking at this Google Maps aerial shot I'm surprised to see there are six stands (the last with a tour bus) - a great location for a Central London terminus or has development eaten up the stands subsequent to the picture being taken? [apologies I cannot get the full Google Maps hyperlink to work] |
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Post by southlondonbus on Jun 12, 2024 6:23:54 GMT
There's an article on the Londoner FB page talking about bus speeds etc and how many of TFLs decisions are given as the reason for decline in bus usage.
If anyone wants to read it should be there still but unfortunately I don't know how to upload the link or a screenshot of it. If anyone could upload it that would be great.
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Post by greenboy on Jun 12, 2024 6:48:22 GMT
There's an article on the Londoner FB page talking about bus speeds etc and how many of TFLs decisions are given as the reason for decline in bus usage. If anyone wants to read it should be there still but unfortunately I don't know how to upload the link or a screenshot of it. If anyone could upload it that would be great. I think a link would only work for those who are members of the group? But no surprise really, one regularly heard argument against bus travel is that it's just too slow and it's quicker to cycle or even walk in some cases and the ridiculous over regulating is a major factor. There's a letter in the June edition of Buses magazine about a ridiculously slow journey on the 465 and a totally inept response from TfL about it. |
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Post by southlondon413 on Jun 12, 2024 8:03:50 GMT
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Post by southlondonbus on Jun 12, 2024 8:38:27 GMT
Thank you. Worth a read atleast I'd say. |
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Post by joefrombow on Aug 30, 2024 21:51:43 GMT
Wonder when this consultation will reopen if it will as November the 414 contract is up for renewal I believe or maybe they will just bring it in with no consultation and smoke and mirrors overlap or something?
Strange nothing has still been mentioned officially or waiting till parliament is back ?
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Post by southlondonbus on Aug 31, 2024 12:13:31 GMT
Wonder when this consultation will reopen if it will as November the 414 contract is up for renewal I believe or maybe they will just bring it in with no consultation and smoke and mirrors overlap or something? Strange nothing has still been mentioned officially or waiting till parliament is back ? I think August can traditionally be a quiet time for TFL and its likely its outsourced so would have had to allow time for a company to create all the revised literature for it. |
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Post by cc2005 on Sept 2, 2024 14:24:17 GMT
Wonder when this consultation will reopen if it will as November the 414 contract is up for renewal I believe or maybe they will just bring it in with no consultation and smoke and mirrors overlap or something? Strange nothing has still been mentioned officially or waiting till parliament is back ? The consultation has just reopened! See the email sent out in my next post below: |
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Post by cc2005 on Sept 2, 2024 14:24:58 GMT
Today we have launched a consultation proposing changes to bus routes 14 and 414.
We propose to merge these routes to simplify the bus network between Putney and central London. As a result, the 414 would no longer run between Putney Bridge and Marble Arch, and the 14 would operate more frequently.
We would like to hear your views about what is proposed. Please visit our website for more information, to view maps and have your say.
Consultation ends on Sunday 13 October 2024.
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Post by MetrolineGA1511 on Sept 7, 2024 3:55:20 GMT
Today we have launched a consultation proposing changes to bus routes 14 and 414. We propose to merge these routes to simplify the bus network between Putney and central London. As a result, the 414 would no longer run between Putney Bridge and Marble Arch, and the 14 would operate more frequently. We would like to hear your views about what is proposed. Please visit our website for more information, to view maps and have your say. Consultation ends on Sunday 13 October 2024. They don't necessarily say how much more frequent route 14 will be. If just 1 or 2 more buses an hour it won't really compensate for the loss of route 414. |
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Post by evergreenadam on Sept 7, 2024 7:40:10 GMT
Today we have launched a consultation proposing changes to bus routes 14 and 414. We propose to merge these routes to simplify the bus network between Putney and central London. As a result, the 414 would no longer run between Putney Bridge and Marble Arch, and the 14 would operate more frequently. We would like to hear your views about what is proposed. Please visit our website for more information, to view maps and have your say. Consultation ends on Sunday 13 October 2024. They don't necessarily say how much more frequent route 14 will be. If just 1 or 2 more buses an hour it won't really compensate for the loss of route 414. They do say: Route 14 would continue to operate between Putney Heath/Green Man and Russell Square, however it would run approximately every 8 minutes Monday to Saturday daytimes, instead of every 10 minutes. On Sundays and all evenings, it would run approximately every 10 minutes, instead of every 12 minutes. |
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Post by southlondonbus on Sept 7, 2024 7:43:55 GMT
Today we have launched a consultation proposing changes to bus routes 14 and 414. We propose to merge these routes to simplify the bus network between Putney and central London. As a result, the 414 would no longer run between Putney Bridge and Marble Arch, and the 14 would operate more frequently. We would like to hear your views about what is proposed. Please visit our website for more information, to view maps and have your say. Consultation ends on Sunday 13 October 2024. They don't necessarily say how much more frequent route 14 will be. If just 1 or 2 more buses an hour it won't really compensate for the loss of route 414. Tbh having been along the route many times for most of the day no increase to the 14 would still be able to cope so going up to every 8 mins will be alright. |
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