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Post by vjaska on Oct 3, 2009 11:40:08 GMT
I've posted this a little late as I drove TA648 on the 266 about 3 weeks ago. This bus has had an Enviro 400 (ZF) engine installed, but 3rd,4th & 5th gears seem to have been stretched out. ZF gearbox you mean which all Metroline e400s have had from new  . They have Cummins engines. |
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Post by john on Oct 3, 2009 12:05:23 GMT
I've posted this a little late as I drove TA648 on the 266 about 3 weeks ago. This bus has had an Enviro 400 (ZF) engine installed, but 3rd,4th & 5th gears seem to have been stretched out. ZF gearbox you mean which all Metroline e400s have had from new . They have Cummins engines. What he means is that TA648 has had a EuroIV engine retrofitted. These are coming thick and fast now!! I'd love for ELBG to do this to their Voith EuroIII's ;D |
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Post by Volvo on Oct 3, 2009 12:05:57 GMT
I had vlw162 LJ03MRX on the N38 this morning about 1am from shaftesbury avenue to angel this bus is so weird as (from upstairs) when it pulls off it sounds like a hybrid and when its moving it sounds rather silent and not like a b7tl at all. From down stairs it sounds like a normal b7tl, mind you the bus is really quick off the mark and in general speed
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Post by M1104 on Oct 4, 2009 9:16:17 GMT
[quoteauthor=johnboard=stock thread=2104 post=80503 time=1254571523] ZF gearbox you mean which all Metroline e400s have had from new . They have Cummins engines. What he means is that TA648 has had a EuroIV engine retrofitted. These are coming thick and fast now!! I'd love for ELBG to do this to their Voith EuroIII's [/quote] Especially with their 3 speeders where the first gear holds that bit longer. Hopefully future Metroline retrofits will be with the 300bhp euro5 engines. |
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Post by john on Oct 4, 2009 15:55:57 GMT
[quoteauthor=johnboard=stock thread=2104 post=80503 time=1254571523] What he means is that TA648 has had a EuroIV engine retrofitted. These are coming thick and fast now!! I'd love for ELBG to do this to their Voith EuroIII's Especially with their 3 speeders where the first gear holds that bit longer. Hopefully future Metroline retrofits will be with the 300bhp euro5 engines. [/quote] Can't argue with that one!! The 175** batch would sound awesome with a EuroIV or V engine inside. It's just a shame that not more of London's companies have gone for the Voith boxed E400 rather than the rather boring and bland ZF |
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Post by M1104 on Oct 4, 2009 16:12:59 GMT
Especially with their 3 speeders where the first gear holds that bit longer. Hopefully future Metroline retrofits will be with the 300bhp euro5 engines. Can't argue with that one!! The 175** batch would sound awesome with a EuroIV or V engine inside. It's just a shame that not more of London's companies have gone for the Voith boxed E400 rather than the rather boring and bland ZF Tell me about it. Also, a pity Quality Line haven't been awarded more double deck orders, especially as their existing Trident Enviros are on Voith. |
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Post by john on Oct 4, 2009 16:56:43 GMT
Can't argue with that one!! The 175** batch would sound awesome with a EuroIV or V engine inside. It's just a shame that not more of London's companies have gone for the Voith boxed E400 rather than the rather boring and bland ZF Tell me about it. Also, a pity Quality Line haven't been awarded more double deck orders, especially as their existing Trident Enviros are on Voith. Are any of LG's E's on Voith at all? I know they're the GAG company that seem to prefer that option, though i seem to remember the 24's batch sounding like they were on ZF (haven't been on one in over a year  ) |
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Post by vjaska on Oct 4, 2009 18:06:43 GMT
Tell me about it. Also, a pity Quality Line haven't been awarded more double deck orders, especially as their existing Trident Enviros are on Voith. Are any of LG's E's on Voith at all? I know they're the GAG company that seem to prefer that option, though i seem to remember the 24's batch sounding like they were on ZF (haven't been on one in over a year ) LG E1-15 ordered for 196 are on 4 spd Voith LC E16-37 ordered for 37 are on 4 spd Voith LG E38-39 ordered for 196 as extras? are on 4 spd Voith LC E40-56 ordered for 486 are on 5 spd ZF LC E57 ordered for 486 (then supposed to be for 200 school journey but is at SW instead) is on 5 spd ZF LG E58-61 ordered for 213 are on 5 spd ZF LG E62-93 ordered for 24 are on 5 spd ZF LC E94-99 ordered for 36 are on 5 spd ZF LG E100-E128 ordered for 345 are on 5 spd ZF HTH |
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Post by john on Oct 4, 2009 18:42:52 GMT
LG E1-15 ordered for 196 are on 4 spd Voith LC E16-37 ordered for 37 are on 4 spd Voith LG E38-39 ordered for 196 as extras? are on 4 spd Voith LC E40-56 ordered for 486 are on 5 spd ZF LC E57 ordered for 486 (then supposed to be for 200 school journey but is at SW instead) is on 5 spd ZF LG E58-61 ordered for 213 are on 5 spd ZF LG E62-93 ordered for 24 are on 5 spd ZF LC E94-99 ordered for 36 are on 5 spd ZF LG E100-E128 ordered for 345 are on 5 spd ZF HTH vjaska you are a true gent Basically anything that's on an 06-plate - 07 at LG/LC are on Voith then. Will have to get back into town and try and catch one of the early batch for a ride then |
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Post by vjaska on Oct 4, 2009 20:07:16 GMT
LG E1-15 ordered for 196 are on 4 spd Voith LC E16-37 ordered for 37 are on 4 spd Voith LG E38-39 ordered for 196 as extras? are on 4 spd Voith LC E40-56 ordered for 486 are on 5 spd ZF LC E57 ordered for 486 (then supposed to be for 200 school journey but is at SW instead) is on 5 spd ZF LG E58-61 ordered for 213 are on 5 spd ZF LG E62-93 ordered for 24 are on 5 spd ZF LC E94-99 ordered for 36 are on 5 spd ZF LG E100-E128 ordered for 345 are on 5 spd ZF HTH vjaska you are a true gent Basically anything that's on an 06-plate - 07 at LG/LC are on Voith then. Will have to get back into town and try and catch one of the early batch for a ride then Not a problem. You also have Quality Line's DD01-10 as well on 4 spd Voith and 19131-19140 of Selkent on 4 spd Voith too |
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Post by john on Oct 4, 2009 20:29:42 GMT
Not a problem. You also have Quality Line's DD01-10 as well on 4 spd Voith and 19131-19140 of Selkent on 4 spd Voith too I remember Aaron confirming the latter for me a while back, but seeing as Stagecoach ordered them i don't even know why i bothered asking ;D |
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Post by Volvo on Oct 4, 2009 22:45:27 GMT
What I really dont understand is why the euro 5 enviros are plated as 250bhp though they have 300. As forthe gemini 2 I could not find the plate with the engine details, I saw the chassis and wrights plates they are situated at the bottom of the front doors where the single seat is (or directly opposite where they are on e400s)
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Post by jamaal on Nov 11, 2009 17:25:40 GMT
Dont know if this can realy be counted as a modifiction however VP 340 at HD now has 2 cosmic fainsa seats (i think thats how its spelt) around 3 rows from the back seat.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 11, 2009 18:25:04 GMT
That's not a mod then; they'd simply be replacement seats (assuming HD don't have any more of the correct seats in stock). Dont know if this can realy be counted as a modifiction however VP 340 at HD now has 2 cosmic fainsa seats (i think thats how its spelt) around 3 rows from the back seat. |
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Post by M1104 on Nov 14, 2009 15:16:00 GMT
vjaska you are a true gent Basically anything that's on an 06-plate - 07 at LG/LC are on Voith then. Will have to get back into town and try and catch one of the early batch for a ride then Not a problem. You also have Quality Line's DD01-10 as well on 4 spd Voith and 19131-19140 of Selkent on 4 spd Voith too And 7/7 bus 18500. |
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