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Post by yunus on Sept 10, 2024 21:29:35 GMT
Imo the best buses we have in London now are the B9s. The Scania was great tho we only have 1 or 2 at UNO. Hard to believe that a decade ago we still had the best buses. TAs, TNLs, PVLs etc. I always say that EURO 2 + 3 buses were the best. During my childhood in the 90s I remember the Titans & Olympains bit that is going well back. yeah B9s are great, especially if you get one with Topodyn enabled! Do miss the Omnicitys at PD, RM & WH for sure. Personally I absolutely loved the scenes in Romford around 2010 ish, when I was young. VNWs, TNL’s, TNAs, DNs all around the Dagenham routes (165, 193, 252, 365, 498 + Remember riding some Tridents on the 179 & 368 at some point) Also adding on the Stagecoach ALX400s ofc, boy it was amazing back then with them roaring engines 😍😍 Ofc some things change though, when my all time favourite operator First pulled out of London that was the first big downgrade in my local area… then we know what happened all the years after that lol You think very alike with me loool. Going back to the topic of Smart Hybrids, the BW/HK ones have ISA enabled but ignoring that I am not really a fan of them, would much prefer the bog standard Diesel MMC on a route like the 498 whizzing down the A12.
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Post by LK65EBO on Sept 10, 2024 21:29:41 GMT
Interestingly some of Metroline’s 14-reg hybrids that were earmarked for Manchester went back into London service again after a small hiatus being withdrawn. They’ll probably transfer quite a few up later though, maybe not too many just yet as the incoming electrics will need to displace them, and we all know how slow Metrolineare at introducing new buses into service! (Looking at you x8 1.5 year old Electroliners and the year-old WJ BZLs!!) Love your Airbus Beluga picture by the way, wish I could have gone to Heathrow to see that Thanks! Lucky it was landing on 27R being the most convenient for me to get to. The chaos near the runway was funny with cars even stopping at green lights to look at this beast of a plane. Myself being located only a few minutes from Heathrow it was certainly a no brainier to go there.
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Post by DW221 on Sept 10, 2024 21:32:54 GMT
yeah B9s are great, especially if you get one with Topodyn enabled! Do miss the Omnicitys at PD, RM & WH for sure. Personally I absolutely loved the scenes in Romford around 2010 ish, when I was young. VNWs, TNL’s, TNAs, DNs all around the Dagenham routes (165, 193, 252, 365, 498 + Remember riding some Tridents on the 179 & 368 at some point) Also adding on the Stagecoach ALX400s ofc, boy it was amazing back then with them roaring engines 😍😍 Ofc some things change though, when my all time favourite operator First pulled out of London that was the first big downgrade in my local area… then we know what happened all the years after that lol You think very alike with me loool. Going back to the topic of Smart Hybrids, the BW/HK ones have ISA enabled but ignoring that I am not really a fan of them, would much prefer the bog standard Diesel MMC on a route like the 498 whizzing down the A12. yeah 498 is one of the best TFL routes imo, combining both the speed & the scenery going back relating to Metroline, all the 08/58/09 reg DEs at WJ are still going strong
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Sept 10, 2024 21:36:13 GMT
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Post by yunus on Sept 10, 2024 21:36:13 GMT
You think very alike with me loool. Going back to the topic of Smart Hybrids, the BW/HK ones have ISA enabled but ignoring that I am not really a fan of them, would much prefer the bog standard Diesel MMC on a route like the 498 whizzing down the A12. yeah 498 is one of the best TFL routes imo, combining both the speed & the scenery going back relating to Metroline, all the 08/58/09 reg DEs at WJ are still going strong Slightly off Metroline topic again but I rode a 09 plate E200 on route 236 yesterday around Westerham. The DEs at WJ are soon but how soon no idea to replaced with EVs.
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Sept 10, 2024 21:48:13 GMT
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Post by DW221 on Sept 10, 2024 21:48:13 GMT
yeah 498 is one of the best TFL routes imo, combining both the speed & the scenery going back relating to Metroline, all the 08/58/09 reg DEs at WJ are still going strong Slightly off Metroline topic again but I rode a 09 plate E200 on route 236 yesterday around Westerham. The DEs at WJ are soon but how soon no idea to replaced with EVs. Lucky with the older enviro on the 246 there, defo quicker & nicer than the LX13s Believe most of the electrical issues at WJ relate to power supply, UKPN most likely playing a big part.
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Post by vjaska on Sept 11, 2024 0:06:49 GMT
They lack character because they are incredibly dull vehicles to ride on so in my eyes, it’s no different to riding electrics or most hybrids. I’d take a Euro VI Enviro 400H over pretty much any diesel MMC. Wow VJ I am pretty surprised you feel that way lol 😃 (saying in a friendly manner). If I am correct would you prefer a old bodied E400H to a Diesel MMC or even a G2 B5LH? Just interested to see others preferences. I'd prefer a Euro VI Enviro 400H to any diesel MMC as I said in my original answer - B5LH's are pretty dull most of the time. I'd also take one of the Euro IV Enviro 400H's over diesel MMC's if they wern't all scrapped too. Since Euro VI came along, most diesel buses have become very dull - the Allison & ZF boxed Enviro 200's I don't mind, the BCI's with Ensignbus are great fun & anything MMC related before 65 reg has even a tiny bit of character with the whooshing noise they make. I get most of my kicks from running days and the odd non London journey I get around to doing
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Post by wirewiper on Sept 11, 2024 8:17:38 GMT
140-odd new diesel Streetdeck Ultroliners. Coded WSD. Does that mean they won't be having any ex london buses now? They will have all sorts, especially to start off with as Wrightbus aren't going to deliver 140 Streetdecks by January. I believe Transport for Greater Manchester has also ordered 100 EVs which will be allocated to Metroline Manchester*, again I don't expect all these to ready for January. * TfGM (IIRC) is electrifying Hyde Road and Ashton Garages.
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Post by VMH2537 on Sept 12, 2024 14:46:49 GMT
DEM1352 was seen route learning the W9
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Post by MetrolineGA1511 on Sept 14, 2024 6:36:14 GMT
Apparently Metroline Bee getting new buses saw photos FB page six buses Metroline bees parked up along with Arriva London ESs 12 quays Birkenhead port. Dunno how many was placed order 140-odd new diesel Streetdeck Ultroliners. Coded WSD. The quantity I saw was 126 but maybe it has been increased now.
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Post by MetrolineGA1511 on Sept 14, 2024 6:37:57 GMT
140-odd new diesel Streetdeck Ultroliners. Coded WSD. Great can’t wait for Stockport to be flooded with those heaps 🤦🏻♂️ at least Stagecoach have got BZLs coming too I wonder how long they’ll last in Manchester before TfGM will want to go down the electrification route. I think it’s very sensible tbh going for a mix of some diesel and some EV instead of them putting all their eggs in the EV basket like TfL are doing. Even if said diesels are the worst ones available My home is just off route 42a, which will be Metroline and probably Streetdeck.
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Post by barrypotter on Sept 18, 2024 6:18:02 GMT
Into PB last night, DE 993/1591/1641. I was told by night shift shunter that there were 4 in, but I couldn't see the 4th.
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Post by LD71YLO (BE37054) on Sept 18, 2024 6:21:33 GMT
Into PB last night, DE 993/1591/1641. I was told by night shift shunter that there were 4 in, but I couldn't see the 4th. Are these for withdrawal or temporarily for the takeup of the W9?
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Post by barrypotter on Sept 18, 2024 6:23:36 GMT
Into PB last night, DE 993/1591/1641. I was told by night shift shunter that there were 4 in, but I couldn't see the 4th. Are these for withdrawal or temporarily for the takeup of the W9? For further use!
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Post by DW221 on Sept 18, 2024 11:34:08 GMT
Are these for withdrawal or temporarily for the takeup of the W9? For further use! W9 has been nice being with Stagecoach for a bit but will probably be even nicer back home with Metroline at PB! Especially the use of older enviros, DE1641 in praticular is a rocket
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Post by adl on Sept 18, 2024 12:07:55 GMT
W9 has been nice being with Stagecoach for a bit but will probably be even nicer back home with Metroline at PB! Especially the use of older enviros, DE1641 in praticular is a rocket I should imagine it’s temporary as I can’t see Metroline winning the route on the basis it uses 2008 registered DE’s.
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