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Post by enviroPB on Nov 7, 2024 16:24:16 GMT
Somehow I think those in TfL Towers will ignore the calls for innovative ideas and will only latch onto the support for Superloop 2. If passengers claim the barrier to bus use for them is slower speeds, I don't see how adding more buses onto congested roads will help. Bus priority can come about without a vanity project. What about revisiting 24 hour bus lanes on red routes for example as was trialled during the pandemic? Superloop isn't a silver bullet, and there's a fervent argument to be made that The Mayor had no intentions to invest in the bus network had he not been forced to due to the ULEZ expansion. |
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Post by southern66 on Nov 7, 2024 19:19:18 GMT
Route 380 not tracking today , as to why I am not sure
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Post by vjaska on Nov 7, 2024 22:50:39 GMT
Route 380 not tracking today , as to why I am not sure Does it have a new schedule? |
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Post by yunus on Nov 7, 2024 22:57:04 GMT
What DD route will you bet on to be the last to see a Hybrid or Electric working?
Between the 121, 291 & 294?!
Not included the other 3 which are 66, 150 & 175 cos they are already awaiting Hybrids.
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Post by londonbuses on Nov 7, 2024 23:00:06 GMT
What DD route will you bet on to be the last to see a Hybrid or Electric working? Between the 121 & 294?! Not included the other 3 which are 66, 150 & 175 cos they are already awaiting Hybrids. I'd predict 291, as nothing else fits around the route. |
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Post by yunus on Nov 7, 2024 23:21:28 GMT
What DD route will you bet on to be the last to see a Hybrid or Electric working? Between the 121 & 294?! Not included the other 3 which are 66, 150 & 175 cos they are already awaiting Hybrids. I'd predict 291, as nothing else fits around the route. I completely forgot about that one only operating with Diesel DDs! |
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Post by greg on Nov 7, 2024 23:39:15 GMT
What DD route will you bet on to be the last to see a Hybrid or Electric working? Between the 121, 291 & 294?! Not included the other 3 which are 66, 150 & 175 cos they are already awaiting Hybrids. Hasnt the 294 had a MMC working before? I’d probably say the 291 though |
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Post by yunus on Nov 7, 2024 23:43:44 GMT
What DD route will you bet on to be the last to see a Hybrid or Electric working? Between the 121, 291 & 294?! Not included the other 3 which are 66, 150 & 175 cos they are already awaiting Hybrids. Hasnt the 294 had a MMC working before? I’d probably say the 291 though The 294 is allocated MMCs but they are conventional Diesel. |
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Post by capitalomnibus on Nov 8, 2024 1:18:58 GMT
They reap what they have sowed. LTN's, 20's plenty, CPZ's, never ending roadworks, urban realm nonsense schemes.; you could not make it up. |
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Post by capitalomnibus on Nov 8, 2024 1:22:09 GMT
Somehow I think those in TfL Towers will ignore the calls for innovative ideas and will only latch onto the support for Superloop 2. If passengers claim the barrier to bus use for them is slower speeds, I don't see how adding more buses onto congested roads will help. Bus priority can come about without a vanity project. What about revisiting 24 bus lanes on red routes for example as was trialled during the pandemic? Superloop isn't a silver bullet, and there's a fervent argument to be made that The Mayor had no intentions to invest in the bus network had he not been forced to due to the ULEZ expansion. I think you meant 24 hour bus lanes on red routes. Even still many people misunderstood this thinking it was all over London with non red routes. All the red routes I know the bus lanes are 24 hour since covid but makes no difference to journey times as the main delays are not 2 am in the morning etc and other lanes are dead outside of the peaks. |
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Post by capitalomnibus on Nov 8, 2024 1:34:08 GMT
What DD route will you bet on to be the last to see a Hybrid or Electric working? Between the 121, 291 & 294?! Not included the other 3 which are 66, 150 & 175 cos they are already awaiting Hybrids. Add route 128 to that list. |
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Post by vjaska on Nov 8, 2024 2:00:08 GMT
Somehow I think those in TfL Towers will ignore the calls for innovative ideas and will only latch onto the support for Superloop 2. If passengers claim the barrier to bus use for them is slower speeds, I don't see how adding more buses onto congested roads will help. Bus priority can come about without a vanity project. What about revisiting 24 bus lanes on red routes for example as was trialled during the pandemic? Superloop isn't a silver bullet, and there's a fervent argument to be made that The Mayor had no intentions to invest in the bus network had he not been forced to due to the ULEZ expansion. I think you meant 24 hour bus lanes on red routes. Even still many people misunderstood this thinking it was all over London with non red routes. All the red routes I know the bus lanes are 24 hour since covid but makes no difference to journey times as the main delays are not 2 am in the morning etc and other lanes are dead outside of the peaks. Where I live, it has a made a difference as they also removed as many parking spaces as possible by creating bays that don't interfere with the bus lane itself - been a big help on Brixton Hill especially as the roads normal lanes are now jammed during rush hour due to TfL & the council's constant meddling. Putting parking bays in bus lanes is one of the most stupid things councils & TfL did |
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Post by yunus on Nov 8, 2024 6:52:05 GMT
What DD route will you bet on to be the last to see a Hybrid or Electric working? Between the 121, 291 & 294?! Not included the other 3 which are 66, 150 & 175 cos they are already awaiting Hybrids. Add route 128 to that list. 128 has had an Electroliner working & is also on the blinds just like the 294 (found out this morning). Would you know if the 121 is on the 307s ESs blinds? |
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Post by db253 on Nov 8, 2024 10:00:58 GMT
I think you meant 24 hour bus lanes on red routes. Even still many people misunderstood this thinking it was all over London with non red routes. All the red routes I know the bus lanes are 24 hour since covid but makes no difference to journey times as the main delays are not 2 am in the morning etc and other lanes are dead outside of the peaks. Where I live, it has a made a difference as they also removed as many parking spaces as possible by creating bays that don't interfere with the bus lane itself - been a big help on Brixton Hill especially as the roads normal lanes are now jammed during rush hour due to TfL & the council's constant meddling. Putting parking bays in bus lanes is one of the most stupid things councils & TfL did In Waltham Forest they've done the opposite - several sections of parking spot bus lane on Lea Bridge Road have been replaced with cycle lanes. Absolute madness - I'd rather at least have a working bus lane some of the time... As others have said, this news about bus speed reduction is just about the least surprising news I've heard all year. Let's see if they actually try to increase bus priority now - although I certainly wouldn't hold my breath even for a second outside of Superloop roads. |
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Post by enviroPB on Nov 8, 2024 12:49:11 GMT
Somehow I think those in TfL Towers will ignore the calls for innovative ideas and will only latch onto the support for Superloop 2. If passengers claim the barrier to bus use for them is slower speeds, I don't see how adding more buses onto congested roads will help. Bus priority can come about without a vanity project. What about revisiting 24 bus lanes on red routes for example as was trialled during the pandemic? Superloop isn't a silver bullet, and there's a fervent argument to be made that The Mayor had no intentions to invest in the bus network had he not been forced to due to the ULEZ expansion. I think you meant 24 hour bus lanes on red routes. Even still many people misunderstood this thinking it was all over London with non red routes. All the red routes I know the bus lanes are 24 hour since covid but makes no difference to journey times as the main delays are not 2 am in the morning etc and other lanes are dead outside of the peaks. Thanks for the correction, my new phone can't come soon enough!  The 24 hour red route bus lanes do make a difference at 2am depending on where you are. In Liverpool Street for example before Covid claimed them, the bus lanes did help with the Uber blockade on Bishopsgate. It didn't help much but it made a difference. Similar to the contraflow bus lane in Shoreditch; heading northbound is a breeze whilst sometimes Shoreditch High Street southbound can snarl during weekend nights, despite it being a three lane road in parts. The all times bus lanes also drastically help in the Docklands area when Blackwall/Rotherhithe/Limehouse Link tunnel goes down. I believe one night in March 2021, the bus lane was suspended whilst the Limehouse Link and Rotherhithe tunnels were closed. It took an hour to clear that bit outside Limehouse Station where under those conditions, at most it's about a 5 min delay. I get that not all bus lanes need to be 24 hour but operating them in the right places would be advantageous to the bus network. |
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