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Post by southlondon413 on Dec 4, 2022 16:53:05 GMT
In an ideal world the Sutton changes would've happened yesterday, with the DDEs going straight on the S2 and the 470 properly using its shorter buses. Alas A better solution might have been for the new 470 contract (at Go Ahead) to use dual-door buses - and with the S2 later taking over that contract when introduced. Then award the revised 470 as a seperate contract later on? The S2 would likely have to be worked from either A or C, neither of which have space. C will when the 455 goes but A definitely won’t. It is what it is with the 470 at the moment and it’s entirely down to TfLs own ineptitude. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 4, 2022 17:59:37 GMT
In an ideal world the Sutton changes would've happened yesterday, with the DDEs going straight on the S2 and the 470 properly using its shorter buses. Alas A better solution might have been for the new 470 contract (at Go Ahead) to use dual-door buses - and with the S2 later taking over that contract when introduced. Then award the revised 470 as a seperate contract later on? Why didn’t that happen ? I suspect Khan will hail the S2 as a “new” ULEZ route. Hopefully RATP will bid and get back to work on the Epsom section. |
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Post by southlondon413 on Dec 4, 2022 18:12:11 GMT
A better solution might have been for the new 470 contract (at Go Ahead) to use dual-door buses - and with the S2 later taking over that contract when introduced. Then award the revised 470 as a seperate contract later on? Why didn’t that happen ? I suspect Khan will hail the S2 as a “new” ULEZ route. Hopefully RATP will bid and get back to work on the Epsom section. Unfortunately it’s like a domino effect. The change to the 470 to create the S2 also requires the change to the S4 which also requires the removal of the 455. |
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Post by COBO on Dec 4, 2022 19:11:02 GMT
I wonder if route branding will help H9/H10 snd H18/H19 less confusing?
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Post by WH241 on Dec 4, 2022 20:10:03 GMT
I wonder if route branding will help H9/H10 snd H18/H19 less confusing? No idea how route branding would make them less confusing when both routes are circular and will have the same places served on the branding. |
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Post by COBO on Dec 4, 2022 20:35:03 GMT
I wonder if route branding will help H9/H10 snd H18/H19 less confusing? No idea how route branding would make them less confusing when both routes are circular and will have the same places served on the branding. To distinguish from each other. |
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Post by southlondon413 on Dec 4, 2022 20:52:11 GMT
No idea how route branding would make them less confusing when both routes are circular and will have the same places served on the branding. To distinguish from each other. But they are circular routes in opposite directions. It wouldn’t matter which you get as you’ll get there at some point. If I stood at Harrow Bus Station and wanted to go to North Harrow Station how would route branding help me to know they both go there, I’d have already looked at the timetable at the bus station and just get on whichever comes first. If anything route branding would make it more confusing to know which is which. |
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Post by BusesInLondon on Dec 4, 2022 21:06:26 GMT
No idea but apparently there are now 4 subsidiaries; London United West, London United East, London Sovereign and London Transit. Nothing of this nature was mentioned at Andy Corbett's presentation to LOTS on Monday, which set out the company structure under RATP. Andy Corbett is leaving RATP, as a result of a change in the company org structure. |
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Post by snowman on Dec 6, 2022 12:26:48 GMT
Not sure if has been mentioned, but looks like SP workings on 116 finished few days ago.
Seems that the batch that was at WK all now finished
10 of the YT10xxx batch are still being used on 71 until the VHs are available
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Post by paulo on Dec 6, 2022 13:07:06 GMT
Not sure if has been mentioned, but looks like SP workings on 116 finished few days ago. Seems that the batch that was at WK all now finished 10 of the YT10xxx batch are still being used on 71 until the VHs are available Potentially 3 ADEs about to move into AV from TV. Which will see the demise of more SPs |
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Post by COBO on Dec 7, 2022 2:25:44 GMT
So we have DLEs from 223, 265 and H17 going spare. So what will become of them?
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Post by YX10FFN on Dec 7, 2022 3:49:29 GMT
So we have DLEs from 223, 265 and H17 going spare. So what will become of them? Now that the 72 will seemingly be going up for tender, an easy solution in the event that TFL choose a shortened contract due to Hammersmith Bridge would be by using one of those batches. The 265 batch is close to the PVR and is the oldest batch, allowing younger batches to form other bids for full contracts. They could bid for the 419 using the 223 and H17 batches together |
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Post by ADH45258 on Dec 7, 2022 11:27:06 GMT
So we have DLEs from 223, 265 and H17 going spare. So what will become of them? Now that the 72 will seemingly be going up for tender, an easy solution in the event that TFL choose a shortened contract due to Hammersmith Bridge would be by using one of those batches. The 265 batch is close to the PVR and is the oldest batch, allowing younger batches to form other bids for full contracts. They could bid for the 419 using the 223 and H17 batches together The H17's batch is confirmed to be used for the new H11 contract |
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Post by snowman on Dec 7, 2022 12:13:43 GMT
So we have DLEs from 223, 265 and H17 going spare. So what will become of them? Now that the 72 will seemingly be going up for tender, an easy solution in the event that TFL choose a shortened contract due to Hammersmith Bridge would be by using one of those batches. The 265 batch is close to the PVR and is the oldest batch, allowing younger batches to form other bids for full contracts. They could bid for the 419 using the 223 and H17 batches together It’s often forgotten that the 25 oldest DLEs will be 12 years old next year, and all the remaining DEs 12-15 years old. But doesn’t automatically mean oldest will be replaced, as many have been refurbished for second contracts so are likely to complete those contracts. |
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Post by JUNIOR26 on Dec 7, 2022 13:10:14 GMT
So we have DLEs from 223, 265 and H17 going spare. So what will become of them? Now that the 72 will seemingly be going up for tender, an easy solution in the event that TFL choose a shortened contract due to Hammersmith Bridge would be by using one of those batches. The 265 batch is close to the PVR and is the oldest batch, allowing younger batches to form other bids for full contracts. They could bid for the 419 using the 223 and H17 batches together H17s batch will move to the H11. |
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