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Post by SN17MOA on Jul 24, 2024 20:47:36 GMT
Didn't the 110 recently have a frequency reduction? With pretty much every DLE remaining in AV since, could it be plausible that RATP are streamlining their single deck fleet around the Enviro 200, prioritising the removal of the MCMs first before the 10 regs allocated to the 419? Why would AV rid of them? They're pretty young and whilst the MCLs were prematurely withdrawn I dount the MCMs will see the same fate The DLEs released from the 110 as well as those arriving from TV are roughly the same age as the MCMs. We've seen instances of routes changing the official allocation in the past so its not odd if that's what RATP done here with the 117. The added benefit of commonality is a plus with a streamlined Enviro 200 fleet.
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Post by mrhk on Jul 24, 2024 20:55:44 GMT
Why would AV rid of them? They're pretty young and whilst the MCLs were prematurely withdrawn I dount the MCMs will see the same fate The DLEs released from the 110 as well as those arriving from TV are roughly the same age as the MCMs. We've seen instances of routes changing the official allocation in the past so its not odd if that's what RATP done here with the 117. The added benefit of commonality is a plus with a streamlined Enviro 200 fleet. Thats true. What would come first though, MCMs or the 60reg DLEs?
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Post by COBO on Jul 24, 2024 20:56:54 GMT
I had no idea that H22 tender results had already been released and has been retained with existing single deckers. Will the H22 ever get brand new single deckers 😂 how did miss that 😂 🙈
I guess the H22 will be taking the ex 223 / 465 DLEs to replace the E200 Dart DLEs as it’s existing single deckers 😂 why did I think the results hadn’t been announced yet 😂
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Post by paulo on Jul 24, 2024 21:53:01 GMT
The DLEs released from the 110 as well as those arriving from TV are roughly the same age as the MCMs. We've seen instances of routes changing the official allocation in the past so its not odd if that's what RATP done here with the 117. The added benefit of commonality is a plus with a streamlined Enviro 200 fleet. Thats true. What would come first though, MCMs or the 60reg DLEs? MCMs are probably undergoing ‘warranty work’ which is a new phrase on me as per the recent TUK electrics. Seriously, if they are due some attention this is the time to do it with spare DLEs around.
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Post by mark on Jul 25, 2024 6:02:52 GMT
Thats true. What would come first though, MCMs or the 60reg DLEs? MCMs are probably undergoing ‘warranty work’ which is a new phrase on me as per the recent TUK electrics. Seriously, if they are due some attention this is the time to do it with spare DLEs around. The MCMs will be more expensive to maintain than E200s and use more fuel. As a small non standard batch of buses I suspect if they can manage without them they’ll go.
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Post by snowman on Jul 25, 2024 7:01:46 GMT
The DLEs released from the 110 as well as those arriving from TV are roughly the same age as the MCMs. We've seen instances of routes changing the official allocation in the past so its not odd if that's what RATP done here with the 117. The added benefit of commonality is a plus with a streamlined Enviro 200 fleet. Thats true. What would come first though, MCMs or the 60reg DLEs? The old style E200s are fading rapidly, so they are also heading towards being non-standard. Of course many parts were interchangeable on the multiple lengths, so need to look at remaining DEs and SDEs to appraise standardisation of 60reg DLEs If I remember correctly about 20 new electric single decks are due for route 33, and with recent route losses will be down to under 40 pre-2016 single decks. (Haven't done count up recently so might be wrong), but like all companies are likely to get rid of any expensive leased ones before cheaper to run or paid for buses.
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Post by Gary on Jul 25, 2024 8:37:54 GMT
ADE40432 is currently at Ashford Hospital with an engineer driving. Hasn’t been used in a month - either WK are doing the maintenance or it’s on the move??
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Post by TA242 on Jul 25, 2024 18:39:35 GMT
H11 has seemed to take up a full allocation of recently refurbished MMCs. Weirdly none of the ex-265 ones have received a refurbishment AFIAK DLE30134 (if I remember correctly) has been refurbished, as has DLE30142 at Fulwell.
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Post by YX18KVJ (DLE30221) on Jul 25, 2024 20:00:02 GMT
H11 has seemed to take up a full allocation of recently refurbished MMCs. Weirdly none of the ex-265 ones have received a refurbishment AFIAK DLE30134 (if I remember correctly) has been refurbished, as has DLE30142 at Fulwell. I believe DLE30131 has been done also
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Post by paulo on Jul 25, 2024 20:36:32 GMT
DLE30134 (if I remember correctly) has been refurbished, as has DLE30142 at Fulwell. I believe DLE30131 has been done also The 16 reg DLEs have had prolonged periods off the road since they moved over to the 72 last December. They were previously very reliable when on the 265 at TV. Assumption was that they were being refurbed but relatively few have. S have retained 3 DEs and 2 newer DLEs so is there a reason their initial 8 months at S have been hit and miss?
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Post by snowman on Jul 27, 2024 5:57:21 GMT
ADE40432 is currently at Ashford Hospital with an engineer driving. Hasn’t been used in a month - either WK are doing the maintenance or it’s on the move?? Probably on the move or being withdrawn, now that LTs are taking over H98 Including those inherited there were just over 80 diesel Enviro400s in RATP fleet which are now around 12 years old, and there is reasonable secondhand market for buses upgraded to euro6. Some have already gone eg ADE40462 YX62BMV now with McGills in Scotland (as per photo) www.flickr.com/photos/jordanadam44/52896842934/
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Post by paulo on Jul 27, 2024 6:58:30 GMT
ADE40432 is currently at Ashford Hospital with an engineer driving. Hasn’t been used in a month - either WK are doing the maintenance or it’s on the move?? Probably on the move or being withdrawn, now that LTs are taking over H98 Including those inherited there were just over 80 diesel Enviro400s in RATP fleet which are now around 12 years old, and there is reasonable secondhand market for buses upgraded to euro6. Some have already gone eg ADE40462 YX62BMV now with McGills in Scotland (as per photo) www.flickr.com/photos/jordanadam44/52896842934/Big influx of LTs on the H98 this morning so furthe ADE withdrawals commence. I’m not sure whether the ex Quality Line 61/14 reg are allocated to the 696 or 697 but with the latter route also leaving London United in September that releases some more. Presumably the two remaining ADHs at AV will move to V for the E3 which in turn removes 2 more of the 60 reg variant. Soon the oldest DDs in the fleet will be the VDWs on the 452 but I wonder if they may convert to ADE for the remainder of the contract.
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Post by snowman on Jul 27, 2024 13:42:13 GMT
Probably on the move or being withdrawn, now that LTs are taking over H98 Including those inherited there were just over 80 diesel Enviro400s in RATP fleet which are now around 12 years old, and there is reasonable secondhand market for buses upgraded to euro6. Some have already gone eg ADE40462 YX62BMV now with McGills in Scotland (as per photo) www.flickr.com/photos/jordanadam44/52896842934/Big influx of LTs on the H98 this morning so furthe ADE withdrawals commence. I’m not sure whether the ex Quality Line 61/14 reg are allocated to the 696 or 697 but with the latter route also leaving London United in September that releases some more. Presumably the two remaining ADHs at AV will move to V for the E3 which in turn removes 2 more of the 60 reg variant. Soon the oldest DDs in the fleet will be the VDWs on the 452 but I wonder if they may convert to ADE for the remainder of the contract. I am not upto speed these days with how many double decks RATP actually need (usually about 1.13 to 1.2 times PVR). The most recent fleet audit showed : 71 diesel double decks, 359 hybrid double decks, 214 electric double decks = 644
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Post by abellion on Jul 27, 2024 22:45:56 GMT
Is ADE40305 a Voith E400 and why is it just one lone 61reg that RATP have? My only guess is that it was ordered for a school route.
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Post by vjaska on Jul 27, 2024 23:42:50 GMT
Is ADE40305 a Voith E400 and why is it just one lone 61reg that RATP have? My only guess is that it was ordered for a school route. AFAIK, it's a 4 spd Voith example and it was ordered as DD13 as an extra spare by Quality Line to supplement DD01-10 on the 406 & 418.
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