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Post by IanF on Jan 9, 2013 23:36:30 GMT
What happened to the First London school service of that route? Removed on retender as the route now is double deck it has the required capacity at school times. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2013 0:29:49 GMT
ok
Are there School services tendered by the different sub contractor? like route 150?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2013 0:36:08 GMT
ok Are there School services tendered by the different sub contractor? like route 150? There's a few around - I can only think of the 150 and 405 off the top of my head (the latter being normally run by Metrobus but with school journeys being done by Arriva). I'm sure there's more around. |
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Post by IanF on Jan 10, 2013 0:59:33 GMT
freebbc have a look on the link i'm providing as it gives you a lot of info and may answer a few of your questions on tfl bus services. www.londonbusroutes.net |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 9, 2013 18:39:59 GMT
When did the route first became privatised as the route been around for a long while?  |
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Post by wh541 on Apr 9, 2013 19:34:10 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Apr 9, 2013 21:35:19 GMT
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Post by ServerKing on Apr 9, 2013 22:18:20 GMT
I wished the route is semi privatised so the double deck buses will have LED blinds and green livery. Plus they have to accept oyster cards have you been drinking something strong this evening?  What provincial ops have you seen that have buses with LEDs iBus and Oyster ETM's fitted? Leon Daniels would have a fit ;D If anything I wished Stagecoach had the route, it could be run from NS, the buses would be in far better condition  |
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Post by vjaska on Apr 9, 2013 22:25:25 GMT
I wished the route is semi privatised so the double deck buses will have LED blinds and green livery. Plus they have to accept oyster cards I think you've been watching too much Margaret Thatcher coverage ;D ;D Firstly, Grays only runs TfL routes these days. In the past, it ran a mixture of London & non London routes Secondly, Arriva's national livery is aquamarine Thirdly, although there have been provincial spec buses fitted with an Oyster card ticket machine, they ran on TfL routes - a half & half option would simply not work. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 9, 2013 22:49:09 GMT
have you been drinking something strong this evening? What provincial ops have you seen that have buses with LEDs iBus and Oyster ETM's fitted? Leon Daniels would have a fit ;D If anything I wished Stagecoach had the route, it could be run from NS, the buses would be in far better condition yes and also had too much blue smarties. xD The UNO buses done that. Well yes it can be a TFL tendered route as long they have ibus and oyster machine on their buses. I think you've been watching too much Margaret Thatcher coverage ;D ;D Firstly, Grays only runs TfL routes these days. In the past, it ran a mixture of London & non London routes Secondly, Arriva's national livery is aquamarine Thirdly, although there have been provincial spec buses fitted with an Oyster card ticket machine, they ran on TfL routes - a half & half option would simply not work. Well I don't like Thatcher much but i approve one thing and only thing which is deregulation of London buses. Nothing else. I am glad there were Yellow, Blue, grey, green & white buses running on the London bus routes. |
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Post by ServerKing on Apr 10, 2013 3:16:32 GMT
have you been drinking something strong this evening? What provincial ops have you seen that have buses with LEDs iBus and Oyster ETM's fitted? Leon Daniels would have a fit ;D If anything I wished Stagecoach had the route, it could be run from NS, the buses would be in far better condition yes and also had too much blue smarties. xD The UNO buses done that. Well yes it can be a TFL tendered route as long they have ibus and oyster machine on their buses. I think you've been watching too much Margaret Thatcher coverage ;D ;D Firstly, Grays only runs TfL routes these days. In the past, it ran a mixture of London & non London routes Secondly, Arriva's national livery is aquamarine Thirdly, although there have been provincial spec buses fitted with an Oyster card ticket machine, they ran on TfL routes - a half & half option would simply not work. Well I don't like Thatcher much but i approve one thing and only thing which is deregulation of London buses. Nothing else. I am glad there were Yellow, Blue, grey, green & white buses running on the London bus routes. I did like the early days of deregulation where anything would be allowed on a bus route (the awful Renault Wright things on the E3 / shocking Atlanteans on the 65 for instance ;D) and the liveries were interesting - it's gotten boring with the Daniels Regime of all-over red  Though Maggie went too far selling off the trains - there are too many rail operators, and too many different (and way too expensive) ticket prices as a result Thank god she never got her hands on the NHS and sold that off - though every Tory administration has tried to  |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 10, 2013 6:39:11 GMT
have you been drinking something strong this evening? What provincial ops have you seen that have buses with LEDs iBus and Oyster ETM's fitted? Leon Daniels would have a fit ;D If anything I wished Stagecoach had the route, it could be run from NS, the buses would be in far better condition yes and also had too much blue smarties. xD The UNO buses done that. Well yes it can be a TFL tendered route as long they have ibus and oyster machine on their buses. I think you've been watching too much Margaret Thatcher coverage ;D ;D Firstly, Grays only runs TfL routes these days. In the past, it ran a mixture of London & non London routes Secondly, Arriva's national livery is aquamarine Thirdly, although there have been provincial spec buses fitted with an Oyster card ticket machine, they ran on TfL routes - a half & half option would simply not work. Well I don't like Thatcher much but i approve one thing and only thing which is deregulation of London buses. Nothing else. I am glad there were Yellow, Blue, grey, green & white buses running on the London bus routes. London is the only part of the country where regulation was retained? |
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Post by ServerKing on Apr 10, 2013 9:13:05 GMT
yes and also had too much blue smarties. xD The UNO buses done that. Well yes it can be a TFL tendered route as long they have ibus and oyster machine on their buses. Well I don't like Thatcher much but i approve one thing and only thing which is deregulation of London buses. Nothing else. I am glad there were Yellow, Blue, grey, green & white buses running on the London bus routes. London is the only part of the country where regulation was retained? Whoops I guess I meant privatisation rather than deregulation - I've read that alot of PTE's across the country want to copy TfL's model to improve fares and standards |
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Post by snoggle on Apr 10, 2013 10:37:10 GMT
Well I don't like Thatcher much but i approve one thing and only thing which is deregulation of London buses. Nothing else. I am glad there were Yellow, Blue, grey, green & white buses running on the London bus routes. Please make your mind up. London has never had deregulation. If it had then the network would probably be in the same mess as many other urban areas are with poor or non existent early morning, Sunday and evening services. You would not have your beloved Oyster card either as no other part of the country has yet got a fully working multi modal smartcard system in operation. Everyone looks to London for the lead. Fares would be 2 or 3 times higher than now. You keep going on about cheap fares and yet fares have risen considerably ahead of inflation in deregulated areas. I am surprised you liked the era of mixed liveries given your disproportionate love affair with traditional things like red liveries, old London Transport and Routemasters. The privatised era was the exact opposite of that tradition. |
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Post by westhamgeezer on Apr 10, 2013 10:41:26 GMT
I dont believe that privitisation should ever have happened, I cant understand how it can make sense for us (indirectly through TfL/fares/taxes) to pay private companies to run a service (at a profit) when the service could be run through a unified organisation at the greatest efficiency (ie routes run from the closest/most suitable garage.)
However, I am glad that we kept regulation in London, you only have to look at the stats regarding bus useage (falling in the rest of the country, rising in London). Additionally, although we have seen above inflation fare rises recently, compared to the rest of the country, our fares are CHEAP and we have a lot more frequent services to choose from.
I am glad that all our buses are red once again, and am pleased to see the return of the roundall, it shows a unified, integrated network. Had full deregulation occurred, we would have a vastly different network, and I am sure that it would not be as good as what we have today.
Just my opinion/.
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What provincial ops have you seen that have buses with LEDs iBus and Oyster ETM's fitted? Leon Daniels would have a fit ;D 
