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Post by jay38a on Mar 27, 2013 21:06:18 GMT
I definatly think the (N)321 should be extended to central London. The N21 used to run to Eltham every 15 mins and every 30 to Foots Cray so a combined 30 mins on the N21 and (N)321 would be good and would restore a C London night link to N Eltham and Sidcup. Maybe it could go a different routeing say via Elephant and Lambeth North which I think would be a bit quicker anyway. It only had those frequencies at weekends...knowing the loadings and the amount of people being left behind at London Bridge I'd say it should definitely go to at leastLondon Bridge. Im another who thinks the (N)321 should be extended to Central London. However at least for once TfL have tried to make connections work in Eltham from the 321 to N21, which when ever ive done it the 3 mins connection time is more then enough towards Central London, and the other way its something like 12 mins, which i guess is to allow for a late running N21. |
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Post by LX09FBJ on Mar 27, 2013 21:43:52 GMT
Express route X22
Running same line of route as 22, all stops to Putney Bridge, then only calling at:
Putney Heath, Barnes and Roehampton Vale Asda, Kingston Hospital, Kingston University Kingston Hill (University terms only), Eden Street and Kingston Hall Road
Express link from Central London to Kingston, and adds capacity on the core section of the 22
Operated by London General, from AF, using cascaded double decks by converting the 14 to NB4L
Frequency:
Monday-Saturday every 12 minutes (peaks); every 15 minutes (off peak)
Sunday every 20 minutes
Route 437
Hounslow-Edgware Bus Station
via route 237 to Chiswick, then to Hammersmith, then via 220 to Harlesden, then via Neasden and Kingsbury to Edgware
Creates links between North London and Hounslow, as well as Hammersmith to Hounslow Town Centre
Operated by Metroline from AH with double deckers
Frequency:
Monday-Saturday: Every 7-8 minutes
Sunday: Every 10-12 minutes
Potentially a 24 hour service
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Post by Deleted on Mar 28, 2013 11:11:53 GMT
It only had those frequencies at weekends...knowing the loadings and the amount of people being left behind at London Bridge I'd say it should definitely go to at leastLondon Bridge. Im another who thinks the (N)321 should be extended to Central London. However at least for once TfL have tried to make connections work in Eltham from the 321 to N21, which when ever ive done it the 3 mins connection time is more then enough towards Central London, and the other way its something like 12 mins, which i guess is to allow for a late running N21. Towards Central London there are two buses within four minutes (which often end up running in tandem) and then nothing for 26 minutes which really is ridiculous. Extend the N321 to London Bridge, at least, and have it running at even 15minute intervals with the N21. As it is there are 4bph between New Cross, Lewisham and Eltham which is a bit excessive yet only 2bph on the busy Central London section. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 28, 2013 14:22:32 GMT
With regard to another bus service for the Queen Elizabeth Hospital from the Lewisham area if the Lewisham Hospital A & E Department is down graded. I would suggest re-extending the 291 back to Lewisham like it did in the 1980's and it's predecessor the 192 did for many many years. Via Shooters Hill Road, Kidbrooke Park Road and Lee Green. As stand space is tight in the Lewisham area it could be extended to Catford (Rushey Green) or Catford Bus Garage via Lewisham Hospital's main entrance on Lewisham High Street. Extending the 291 to Catford would be a bad idea the traffic there is pathetic at times and would muck up the service. There are bus lanes on the north/south road through Catford and congestion east/west is far worse. If Lewisham A&E is to close then a direct bus service from Catford to QEH would be desirable. |
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Post by IanF on Mar 28, 2013 15:24:47 GMT
Extending the 291 to Catford would be a bad idea the traffic there is pathetic at times and would muck up the service. There are bus lanes on the north/south road through Catford and congestion east/west is far worse. If Lewisham A&E is to close then a direct bus service from Catford to QEH would be desirable. The 122 being diverted via the q.e hospital would be much better imo extending a route like the 291 that dramatically would be a bit stupid. |
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Post by DT 11 on Mar 28, 2013 16:10:09 GMT
There are bus lanes on the north/south road through Catford and congestion east/west is far worse. If Lewisham A&E is to close then a direct bus service from Catford to QEH would be desirable. The 122 being diverted via the q.e hospital would be much better imo extending a route like the 291 that dramatically would be a bit stupid. There is no need to divert the 122 via Queen Elizabeth Hospital. I do not like the idea of the 122 serving even a small section of Shooters Hill Road at all. The 178 already provides a link to Queen Elizabeth Hosptial and the 89 goes quite near it on Shooters Hill. |
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Post by DT 11 on Mar 28, 2013 16:15:52 GMT
Extending the 291 to Catford would be a bad idea the traffic there is pathetic at times and would muck up the service. There are bus lanes on the north/south road through Catford and congestion east/west is far worse. If Lewisham A&E is to close then a direct bus service from Catford to QEH would be desirable. I agree with this idea. If the 386 did not serve such congested areas. I would have suggested to extended the 386 to Catford Garage but that is a bad idea IMO. The 178 could be extended to Catford Garage. |
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Post by IanF on Mar 28, 2013 16:19:13 GMT
The 122 being diverted via the q.e hospital would be much better imo extending a route like the 291 that dramatically would be a bit stupid. There is no need to divert the 122 via Queen Elizabeth Hospital. I do not like the idea of the 122 serving even a small section of Shooters Hill Road at all. The 178 already provides a link to Queen Elizabeth Hosptial and the 89 goes quite near it on Shooters Hill. The 178 and 89 go nowhere near Lewisham Hospital though. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 28, 2013 17:31:06 GMT
As a total amateur, I would be interesting in the opinions of more experienced members in respect of my suggestion for a new Night Bus route.
Starting at Central Middlesex Hospital, it proceeds along Acton Lane to Harlesden Jubilee Clock before following daytime 187 route as far as Queens Park and then - for a very short distance - following route 6 onto Carlton Vale. Instead of turning off Carlton Vale as the 6 does, the new route stays on Carlton Vale all the way down to Kilburn High Road where it turns left and then right onto Belsize Road down to Finchley Road where it proceeds all the way along Adelaide Road to Chalk Farm Station, turning left onto Haverstock Hill and then right onto Pince of Wales Road down to Kentish Town Road where it would take a right and and then a left onto St. Pancras Way - Eversholt Street and Euston Station.
The new route would give Central Middlesex Hospital its very first night bus service and a night link between Harlesden and Queen's Park onto Chalk Farm Station and Kentish Town - intentionally avoiding Camden Town to proceed to its terminus at Euston Station.
I originally planned to send it to Wood Green - after Kentish Town - but could not come up with a satsifactory routeing (there is No Left Turn onto Kentish Town Road from Prince of Wales Road.)
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Post by Deleted on Mar 28, 2013 23:09:34 GMT
I work in Catford and have to say unless there is a serious accident or other serious incident the traffic can be heavy I agree at peak times but keeps moving along Lewisham High Street and Rushey Green. Buses towards Lewisham use the bus lane as mentioned already. The 192/291 used to run quiet successfully to Lewisham before the idea of having more local Hoppa bus routes as they were called back then were introduced by London Transport and routes were cut back and altered.
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Post by COBO on Mar 29, 2013 0:13:35 GMT
Night bus N237 From Notting Hill Gate - Staines Via: - Shepherd's Bush
- Chiswick
- Brentford
- Hounslow
- Feltham
- Ashford
Running every 30 minutes using double deckers from route 237. It would provide Staines and Ashford with a night service. Route 435 From Ealing Broadway to Heathrow Terminal 5 Via: - West Ealing
- Hanwell
- Southall
- Cranford
- Harlington Corner
- Heathrow Central
- Compass Centre
Running every 20 mins (Monday - Saturday) 30 mins (Sunday and evenigs). Using 12m single deckers. It would provide a replacement for route 482 after it been discontinued, provide a link between Heathrow and Ealing and act as relief for route 105. Or extend the 482 to Ealing Broadway instead. |
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Post by Connor on Apr 6, 2013 11:53:09 GMT
Lets merge the 312 and the 255!
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Post by vjaska on Apr 6, 2013 11:55:57 GMT
Lets merge the 312 and the 255! Why, because they are two short routes? I agree though that something needs to be done regarding both routes  The 312 is still better off being merged with the 412 IMO. |
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Post by Connor on Apr 6, 2013 12:01:09 GMT
Lets merge the 312 and the 255! Why, because they are two short routes? I agree though that something needs to be done regarding both routes Not just that, it allows Thornton Heath and South Norwood to have a route linking them, as well as connecting South Norwood and Streatham.  |
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Post by vjaska on Apr 6, 2013 12:15:02 GMT
Why, because they are two short routes? I agree though that something needs to be done regarding both routes Not just that, it allows Thornton Heath and South Norwood to have a route linking them, as well as connecting South Norwood and Streatham. Personally, I'd extend the 130 to Thornton Heath but via the direct routeing of South Norwood Hill & Whitehorse Lane rather than around the back of Selhurst Park - match days would cause less havoc with my suggested routeing than the one they proposed. If Spring Lane decides to be re-opened to heavy vehicles, than maybe then an extension to Streatham Village via High Street, Brigstock Road, Brook Road, Beulah Road, Norbury Avenue, Streatham High Road. The 130 is pretty much dead between Addington Village & Shirley anyway so it might possibly work. |
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