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Post by Connor on Jun 18, 2013 13:48:58 GMT
Some long-ass diversion on all Acre Lane/ Clapham Park Road, Brixton routes. Especially long-ass if you are on a 137 (which I am) or a 417. Acre Lane seems to be unaffected as the 355 looks to be running normal - guessing the P5 should also be fine. I don't think the 35 or 37 are serving Acre Lane. The P5 and 355 are unaffected. |
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Post by Connor on Jun 20, 2013 0:24:09 GMT
Routes 60 and 118 are/were on diversion via London Road and Norbury Station due to accident in Pollards Hill area.
Arriva sensibly decided to change the 137 diversion via the much faster route along the route 50 (via Clapham South). The 417 is still diverted via the long-ass route of Clapham North, Stockwell, Brixton and Acre Lane. Very long loop just to serve King's Avenue section, which isn't even that well used.
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Post by vjaska on Jun 20, 2013 0:53:00 GMT
Routes 60 and 118 are/were on diversion via London Road and Norbury Station due to accident in Pollards Hill area. Arriva sensibly decided to change the 137 diversion via the much faster route along the route 50 (via Clapham South). The 417 is still diverted via the long-ass route of Clapham North, Stockwell, Brixton and Acre Lane. Very long loop just to serve King's Avenue section, which isn't even that well used. Kings Avenue is well served and it makes no sense to send it via Clapham South when it can still serve Kings Avenue - a very stupid decision! The 137 will also now be prone to being caught in traffic jams along the South Circular. |
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Post by M1104 on Jun 20, 2013 9:52:27 GMT
Routes 60 and 118 are/were on diversion via London Road and Norbury Station due to accident in Pollards Hill area. Arriva sensibly decided to change the 137 diversion via the much faster route along the route 50 (via Clapham South). The 417 is still diverted via the long-ass route of Clapham North, Stockwell, Brixton and Acre Lane. Very long loop just to serve King's Avenue section, which isn't even that well used. Kings Avenue is well served and it makes no sense to send it via Clapham South when it can still serve Kings Avenue - a very stupid decision! The 137 will also now be prone to being caught in traffic jams along the South Circular. I used to have relatives that live near Kings Avenue and indeed it is well served by the buses, especially the 137 to and from the inner towns. It's a pity a one way single deck route wasn't able to be set up at short notice to run from Clapham Common Station to the stop before BN garage. The route could run via Clapham North Station and Bedford Road into Kings Avenue and along the 137/417 the rest of the way. After dropping off the punters buses then U turn outside BN and run light back to Clapham Common to start again. This would have sped up the southbound journey times during the period of the Clapham Park Road roadworks and allowed the 417 to then divert the same way as the 137. I guess such a route may have been set up if the roadworks were much more long term, like it was with the 545 serving Loughborough Junction and the 518 serving Streatham Common Station. I am also guessing there may have been the issue of costs and or/availability of staff and vehicles. |
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Post by Hassaan on Jun 20, 2013 14:46:09 GMT
Routes 60 and 118 are/were on diversion via London Road and Norbury Station due to accident in Pollards Hill area. Arriva sensibly decided to change the 137 diversion via the much faster route along the route 50 (via Clapham South). The 417 is still diverted via the long-ass route of Clapham North, Stockwell, Brixton and Acre Lane. Very long loop just to serve King's Avenue section, which isn't even that well used. Kings Avenue is well served and it makes no sense to send it via Clapham South when it can still serve Kings Avenue - a very stupid decision! The 137 will also now be prone to being caught in traffic jams along the South Circular. From what I've noticed, when routes are on diversion an attempt is made to serve as many stops as possible on the normal route, even as far as having a double run in some cases. |
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Post by vjaska on Jun 20, 2013 17:41:21 GMT
Update on the diversion:
The official diversion for the 137 & 417 is still via Clapham North, Stockwell, Brixton before re-joining Kings Avenue. The 35 seems to do a double run through Brixton either in one direction or both.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 22, 2013 13:34:46 GMT
Route N550 was on diversion from Island Garden Station via Mudchute & Crossharbour then into Canary Wharf.
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Post by M1104 on Jun 22, 2013 13:46:44 GMT
Update on the diversion: The official diversion for the 137 & 417 is still via Clapham North, Stockwell, Brixton before re-joining Kings Avenue. The 35 seems to do a double run through Brixton either in one direction or both. I passed near Clapham South tube yesterday and the diversion signs were up showing the 137 and 417. However, passing Stockwell beforehand the diversion signs there still included those two routes. I am guessing they are in practice going via Clapham South as I saw all other diverted buses going along Clapham Road but not a single 137 or 417. Having said that, it could be that none were in the area at the time of me passing from Stockwell towards Balham, thus being unable to confirm which way the they are actually diverted. |
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Post by snoggle on Jul 7, 2013 20:36:37 GMT
Cockspur Street is closed again but westbound this time - looks like it is completely closed due to new roadworks. The diversions look horrendous!
[cut and paste from TfL real time info]
Routes 3 12 88 453 N3 N18 N109 From Whitehall, ahead St Martins Lane, ahead Charing Cross Road, right St Giles High Street, right New Oxford Street, right Bloomsbury Street, right St Giles High Street, left Shaftesbury Avenue, left Great Windmill Street, ahead Haymarket, right Pall Mall to normal route
Routes 6 13 15 23 139 N13 from Strand, right St Martins Lane, ahead Charing Cross Road, right St Giles High Street, right New Oxford Street, right Bloomsbury Street, right St Giles High Street, left Shaftesbury Avenue, left Great Windmill Street, ahead Haymarket, right Pall Mall to normal route
Routes 9 N9 From Strand, right St Martins Lane, ahead Charing Cross Road, right St Giles High Street, right New Oxford Street, right Bloomsbury Street, right St Giles High Street, left Shaftesbury Avenue, left Great Windmill Street, ahead Haymarket, right Pall Mall to normal route
Route 159 From Whitehall ahead St Martins Lane, ahead Charing Cross Road, right St Giles High Street, right New Oxford Street, right Bloomsbury Street, right St Giles High Street, left Shaftesbury Avenue, left Great Windmill Street, ahead Haymarket, right Pall Mall to normal route
Routes 9H N18 N113 curtailed Piccadilly Circus (Charles II Street)
Routes N550 N551 curtailed Trafalgar Square
The above cannot be doing anything for service reliability!
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Post by romfordbuses on Jul 7, 2013 21:01:21 GMT
The diversions look horrendous! That's one way of putting it... |
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Post by Steve80 on Jul 8, 2013 1:53:08 GMT
That diversion is too long for some routes. I can see abellio stopping the route 3s from going past trafalgar square
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Post by M1104 on Jul 8, 2013 2:12:41 GMT
That diversion is too long for some routes. I can see abellio stopping the route 3s from going past trafalgar square The problem there is that punters on southbound Regent Street, Piccadilly Circus and Haymarket would be waiting for the 3, unaware that the firm had suspended the service in those areas. |
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Post by vjaska on Jul 8, 2013 2:18:54 GMT
Would it not be better for all buses to divert via St. Martins Place, Charing Cross Road, Shaftsbury Avenue, Great Windmill Street, Haymarket & Charles II Street (the 9 & N9 missing out Charles II Street) rather than weirdly serving Tottenham Court Road Station which none of these routes normally serve.
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Post by Swadbus on Jul 8, 2013 2:42:23 GMT
Would it not be better for all buses to divert via St. Martins Place, Charing Cross Road, Shaftsbury Avenue, Great Windmill Street, Haymarket & Charles II Street (the 9 & N9 missing out Charles II Street) rather than weirdly serving Tottenham Court Road Station which none of these routes normally serve. Yes, buses are unable to do the left turn into Shaftsbury Avenue from Charing Cross Road at Cambridge Circus, hence having to go to Centrepoint to come back on themselves. The emergency gas works are likely to be completed later today. |
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Post by Steve80 on Jul 8, 2013 2:47:11 GMT
That diversion is too long for some routes. I can see abellio stopping the route 3s from going past trafalgar square The problem there is that punters on southbound Regent Street, Piccadilly Circus and Haymarket would be waiting for the 3, unaware that the firm had suspended the service in those areas. That is true but when it was at BC it was a regular occurrence whether things went wrong. Probably explains why the route moved to QB. Anway, im guesing the majority of the 3 and 12 will terminate at Whitehall and the 6, 9, 13 and 139 will terminate at piccadilly Would it not be better for all buses to divert via St. Martins Place, Charing Cross Road, Shaftsbury Avenue, Great Windmill Street, Haymarket & Charles II Street (the 9 & N9 missing out Charles II Street) rather than weirdly serving Tottenham Court Road Station which none of these routes normally serve. Im guessing theres no left turn from charing cross into shaftsbury avenue. I know that you would need a wide berth to make such a turn due to the angle of the junction. Im guessing theres no left turn from charing cross into shaftsbury avenue. I know that you would need a wide berth to make such a turn due to the angle of the junction. |
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