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Post by greg on Aug 15, 2020 17:26:39 GMT
Ahh, true. Four is nothing though, I have a lot moreðŸ˜ðŸ˜ 24, 27, 59, 68, 73, 91, 168, 253, 390, 453 which is 10. Also had the 10 and 88 which are now no longer here, and the 88 no longer has LTs so would of been 12. I take it you meant, "....the 10 and 48...." The 88 but I worded it wrong, what I meant to say is that it no longer has its LTs.
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Post by COBO on Sept 1, 2020 1:27:25 GMT
Will LTs and the other already made hybrids and diesels be allowed to run on a TFL service beyond the 2030 zero emissions ban or will they have to be withdrawn before then?
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Post by busboy17 on Sept 4, 2020 11:06:14 GMT
Will LTs and the other already made hybrids and diesels be allowed to run on a TFL service beyond the 2030 zero emissions ban or will they have to be withdrawn before then? Would the 129 be a candidate for LT’s it’s pvr isn’t that high I believe
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Post by southlondonbus on Sept 4, 2020 11:27:24 GMT
With potentially as many as 17 coming spare from reductions to the 38 and 73 we could easily see another conversion.
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Post by M1104 on Sept 4, 2020 11:39:06 GMT
With potentially as many as 17 coming spare from reductions to the 38 and 73 we could easily see another conversion. I can imagine them being allocated to a route that would allow age appropriate deckers to be utilised for a new contract. Eg, LTs to 155 to free up WHVs for the 156
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Post by southlondonbus on Sept 4, 2020 12:58:35 GMT
I was thinking the same but not nessecaily the 155 but a similar idea to basically use the LTs directly or indirectly to award an existing tender.
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Post by COBO on Sept 4, 2020 13:00:32 GMT
Will LTs and the other already made hybrids and diesels be allowed to run on a TFL service beyond the 2030 zero emissions ban or will they have to be withdrawn before then? Would the 129 be a candidate for LT’s it’s pvr isn’t that high I believe I guess so.
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Post by bus12451 on Sept 4, 2020 13:37:03 GMT
The LTs being made free from the 38/73 could be reallocated to routes that already have a partial LT allocation such as the 176 or 332. The hybrids displaced can then be used for any upcoming tenders. All in all, costs are massively reduced since there will be no need for LT route tests, driver type training, new buses etc.
But seeing as TFL are looking to move LTs to the suburbs in the future, it probably won't happen. If that's the case, I'd like to see LTs in areas where they're non-existent such as Bexleyheath, Croydon or Bromley.
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Post by southlondonbus on Sept 4, 2020 13:41:41 GMT
The 176 could have created enough now for the 200 to be hybrid. With the WHVs not needed for the Romford school routes they could have over 20 spare hybrids to bid with.
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Post by bus12451 on Sept 4, 2020 14:07:33 GMT
The 176 could have created enough now for the 200 to be hybrid. With the WHVs not needed for the Romford school routes they could have over 20 spare hybrids to bid with. The 200 will be getting electric MetroDeckers next year but maybe another route could do with those hybrids.
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Post by vjaska on Sept 4, 2020 14:32:44 GMT
The LTs being made free from the 38/73 could be reallocated to routes that already have a partial LT allocation such as the 176 or 332. The hybrids displaced can then be used for any upcoming tenders. All in all, costs are massively reduced since there will be no need for LT route tests, driver type training, new buses etc. But seeing as TFL are looking to move LTs to the suburbs in the future, it probably won't happen. If that's the case, I'd like to see LTs in areas where they're non-existent such as Bexleyheath, Croydon or Bromley. The 332 doesn't have a partial allocation - it uses LT's because of a lack of spare deckers the same way the 32 did. The 176 however would seem a logical place - it roughly has around 13 LT's and would only about another 13 on top for a full allocation.
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Post by southlondonbus on Sept 4, 2020 14:57:39 GMT
The 176 could have created enough now for the 200 to be hybrid. With the WHVs not needed for the Romford school routes they could have over 20 spare hybrids to bid with. The 200 will be getting electric MetroDeckers next year but maybe another route could do with those hybrids. Sorry yeh I meant the award could have stayed as it was originally - awarded with existing hybrids.
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Post by bus12451 on Sept 4, 2020 15:03:51 GMT
The LTs being made free from the 38/73 could be reallocated to routes that already have a partial LT allocation such as the 176 or 332. The hybrids displaced can then be used for any upcoming tenders. All in all, costs are massively reduced since there will be no need for LT route tests, driver type training, new buses etc. But seeing as TFL are looking to move LTs to the suburbs in the future, it probably won't happen. If that's the case, I'd like to see LTs in areas where they're non-existent such as Bexleyheath, Croydon or Bromley. The 332 doesn't have a partial allocation - it uses LT's because of a lack of spare deckers the same way the 32 did. The 176 however would seem a logical place - it roughly has around 13 LT's and would only about another 13 on top for a full allocation. Oh right, thanks for correcting me on this. Why is there a shortage of deckers for the route? Did it receive a PVR increase at some point?
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Post by djs76 on Sept 4, 2020 15:03:58 GMT
The LTs being made free from the 38/73 could be reallocated to routes that already have a partial LT allocation such as the 176 or 332. The hybrids displaced can then be used for any upcoming tenders. All in all, costs are massively reduced since there will be no need for LT route tests, driver type training, new buses etc. But seeing as TFL are looking to move LTs to the suburbs in the future, it probably won't happen. If that's the case, I'd like to see LTs in areas where they're non-existent such as Bexleyheath, Croydon or Bromley. What about routes like the 279 or 329. Busy routes that are relatively straight so no tight turns to deal with.
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Post by Eastlondoner62 on Sept 4, 2020 15:09:45 GMT
The LTs being made free from the 38/73 could be reallocated to routes that already have a partial LT allocation such as the 176 or 332. The hybrids displaced can then be used for any upcoming tenders. All in all, costs are massively reduced since there will be no need for LT route tests, driver type training, new buses etc. But seeing as TFL are looking to move LTs to the suburbs in the future, it probably won't happen. If that's the case, I'd like to see LTs in areas where they're non-existent such as Bexleyheath, Croydon or Bromley. What about routes like the 279 or 329. Busy routes that are relatively straight so no tight turns to deal with. I don't think they will want another LT route along the 149s corridor, the ticket inspectors down there certainly have their work cut out and the route (alongside 76) always gets special mention in fare evasion documentaries. Even with the move to front door boarding, fare evasion is still likely to be high so mighr be better avoiding that corridor.
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