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Post by WH241 on Nov 14, 2023 17:46:16 GMT
5th Driver on the 56 today mentioned the route going LT. If it was just canteen gossip would it the talks really get that far I do not know! Wish someone from Stagecoach could confirm whether true or not, cos I am getting a tad worked up not that it will change the result. Whilst its not implausible I just can't see it happening due to the current buses being too old to realistically be redeployed yet have been refurbed for the contract. If anything the 257 out to tender would be a more likely home if Stagecoach have any spare LTs. I agree unlikely but I did suggest the other day if it does happen the 56 hybrids could go onto the 257 to make a full allocation. |
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Post by yunus on Nov 14, 2023 17:55:21 GMT
Whilst its not implausible I just can't see it happening due to the current buses being too old to realistically be redeployed yet have been refurbed for the contract. If anything the 257 out to tender would be a more likely home if Stagecoach have any spare LTs. I agree unlikely but I did suggest the other day if it does happen the 56 hybrids could go onto the 257 to make a full allocation. I have some friends that work at T garage so I asked. Doubt they would go on to the 257 cos they are already 12 yrs old but who knows anything can happen. southlondonbus could they not cascade them outside of London as they have done with some Scanias? |
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Post by vjaska on Nov 14, 2023 18:33:50 GMT
I agree unlikely but I did suggest the other day if it does happen the 56 hybrids could go onto the 257 to make a full allocation. I have some friends that work at T garage so I asked. Doubt they would go on to the 257 cos they are already 12 yrs old but who knows anything can happen. southlondonbus could they not cascade them outside of London as they have done with some Scanias? I doubt anyone outside London would touch LT's TBH bar one or two operators who might try a few out similar to the Citaros where some did get a 2nd life for a little bit but many were either scrapped or exported abroad and some of the exported ones still ended scrapped. |
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Post by southlondonbus on Nov 14, 2023 18:35:02 GMT
I agree unlikely but I did suggest the other day if it does happen the 56 hybrids could go onto the 257 to make a full allocation. I have some friends that work at T garage so I asked. Doubt they would go on to the 257 cos they are already 12 yrs old but who knows anything can happen. southlondonbus could they not cascade them outside of London as they have done with some Scanias? They could do but what would be the logic. They still have some london life in them. There's other routes needing newer buses for retender that I think the LTs could be used on. |
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Post by yunus on Nov 14, 2023 21:38:32 GMT
I have some friends that work at T garage so I asked. Doubt they would go on to the 257 cos they are already 12 yrs old but who knows anything can happen. southlondonbus could they not cascade them outside of London as they have done with some Scanias? I doubt anyone outside London would touch LT's TBH bar one or two operators who might try a few out similar to the Citaros where some did get a 2nd life for a little bit but many were either scrapped or exported abroad and some of the exported ones still ended scrapped. I was referring to cascading the 56s Hybrids outside London should the route convert to LTs. Personally as the 56 is on a fixed 5 year contract expiring in 2027 it makes more sense to keep current alloc and then convert to EV whether retained or not. |
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Post by vjaska on Nov 15, 2023 1:36:26 GMT
I doubt anyone outside London would touch LT's TBH bar one or two operators who might try a few out similar to the Citaros where some did get a 2nd life for a little bit but many were either scrapped or exported abroad and some of the exported ones still ended scrapped. I was referring to cascading the 56s Hybrids outside London should the route convert to LTs. Personally as the 56 is on a fixed 5 year contract expiring in 2027 it makes more sense to keep current alloc and then convert to EV whether retained or not. Apologies, thought you was referring to the LT's - they have a higher chance for sure but I reckon they'd probably cascade diesel examples over them so as not to deal with the battery issue |
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Post by southlondonbus on Nov 15, 2023 8:47:08 GMT
I was referring to cascading the 56s Hybrids outside London should the route convert to LTs. Personally as the 56 is on a fixed 5 year contract expiring in 2027 it makes more sense to keep current alloc and then convert to EV whether retained or not. Apologies, thought you was referring to the LT's - they have a higher chance for sure but I reckon they'd probably cascade diesel examples over them so as not to deal with the battery issue I'd like to see a couple of LTs thou atleast go into preservation. Would be nice to see then again in 10 years time at the Chalk Farm running day. |
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Post by mondraker275 on Nov 15, 2023 17:54:45 GMT
Apologies, thought you was referring to the LT's - they have a higher chance for sure but I reckon they'd probably cascade diesel examples over them so as not to deal with the battery issue I'd like to see a couple of LTs thou atleast go into preservation. Would be nice to see then again in 10 years time at the Chalk Farm running day. Good point but would expand to 3/4 different types of the current era. I was on a 97 Scania and I would like to take that in 20-30 years time. |
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Post by southlondonbus on Nov 15, 2023 18:08:03 GMT
I'd like to see a couple of LTs thou atleast go into preservation. Would be nice to see then again in 10 years time at the Chalk Farm running day. Good point but would expand to 3/4 different types of the current era. I was on a 97 Scania and I would like to take that in 20-30 years time. Funnily enough it's actually the Titan and Metrobuses I prefer on running days to Routemasters and RTs. |
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Post by adl on Nov 16, 2023 21:29:54 GMT
5th Driver on the 56 today mentioned the route going LT. If it was just canteen gossip would it the talks really get that far I do not know! Wish someone from Stagecoach could confirm whether true or not, cos I am getting a tad worked up not that it will change the result. 5 drivers out of how many hundreds? I assume you bring the subject up with them? sometimes drivers can pick up on things and might just be on a wind up or like to create gossip.
You really shouldn't get so worked up over bus types.
Obviously not entertaining the possibility but should this happen, could it be LoTs from the 168 as they are still spare if I'm not mistaken? As for the 61 reg from the 56 should this happen I wonder if they may go further east to somewhere like NS or RM to displace further E400s finishing the contracts on the 247/128 or 365/256 for instance. |
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Post by adl on Nov 16, 2023 21:33:05 GMT
5th Driver on the 56 today mentioned the route going LT. If it was just canteen gossip would it the talks really get that far I do not know! Wish someone from Stagecoach could confirm whether true or not, cos I am getting a tad worked up not that it will change the result. For someone who keeps mentioning it from these various drivers, did you not get a timeframe of when this is happening? Can't be soon as 56 drivers will need to be type trained on LTs. |
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Post by yunus on Nov 16, 2023 21:51:37 GMT
5th Driver on the 56 today mentioned the route going LT. If it was just canteen gossip would it the talks really get that far I do not know! Wish someone from Stagecoach could confirm whether true or not, cos I am getting a tad worked up not that it will change the result. For someone who keeps mentioning it from these various drivers, did you not get a timeframe of when this is happening? Can't be soon as 56 drivers will need to be type trained on LTs. They said soon so we can make want we want out of that. Most 56 drivers, drive the 55 so already type trained but one mentioned that they are fitting blinds with the 56 already and he will go for a refresh type training as not driven an LT for some time. |
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Post by aaron1 on Nov 16, 2023 22:09:06 GMT
For someone who keeps mentioning it from these various drivers, did you not get a timeframe of when this is happening? Can't be soon as 56 drivers will need to be type trained on LTs. They said soon so we can make want we want out of that. Most 56 drivers, drive the 55 so already type trained but one mentioned that they are fitting blinds with the 56 already and he will go for a refresh type training as not driven an LT for some time. Can Lts can do the full 56 don't know they been tested |
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Post by WH241 on Nov 16, 2023 22:27:10 GMT
For someone who keeps mentioning it from these various drivers, did you not get a timeframe of when this is happening? Can't be soon as 56 drivers will need to be type trained on LTs. They said soon so we can make want we want out of that. Most 56 drivers, drive the 55 so already type trained but one mentioned that they are fitting blinds with the 56 already and he will go for a refresh type training as not driven an LT for some time. I don’t mean to cast doubts but could it just be a case of updated blinds for the 215 include other T routes. Going back to the ex 168 LTs does anyone know where they have ended up? Are they in storage or away for refurbishment? |
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Post by yunus on Nov 30, 2023 0:40:00 GMT
Just my own thought, if the 56 does end up converting then it could send the Hybrids to the SL3.
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