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Post by COBO on Nov 20, 2013 21:52:24 GMT
Here are the routes that I think are going to be converted:
6, 8, 10, 12, 14, 15, 19, 22, 38, 73, 74, 94, 98, 139, 159, 436 (maybe) and 453. This due to the tourist attractions that these routes pass and because they have euro 3 vehicles.
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Post by I-Azusio-I on Nov 20, 2013 22:02:58 GMT
Here are the routes that I think are going to be converted: 6, 8, 10, 12, 14, 15, 19, 22, 38, 73, 74, 94, 98, 139, 159, 436 (maybe) and 453. This due to the tourist attractions that these routes pass and because they have euro 3 vehicles. You forgot the 88 and 188  Not too sure about 74 as it just got new buses but they could be cascaded to the 85 and 430 maybe. |
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Post by twobellstogo on Nov 20, 2013 22:03:27 GMT
Here are the routes that I think are going to be converted: 6, 8, 10, 12, 14, 15, 19, 22, 38, 73, 74, 94, 98, 139, 159, 436 (maybe) and 453. This due to the tourist attractions that these routes pass and because they have euro 3 vehicles. I think the 94 would struggle with NBfLs in the Acton area. |
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Post by TA1 on Nov 20, 2013 22:04:01 GMT
Here are the routes that I think are going to be converted: 6, 8, 10, 12, 14, 15, 19, 22, 38, 73, 74, 94, 98, 139, 159, 436 (maybe) and 453. This due to the tourist attractions that these routes pass and because they have euro 3 vehicles. Are you sure? The 10,12,19,22,38,73,94,436 and 453. All use EuroIV & EuroV vehicles. Only the 6 & 8 use euro3 vehicles |
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Post by COBO on Nov 20, 2013 22:11:38 GMT
Here are the routes that I think are going to be converted: 6, 8, 10, 12, 14, 15, 19, 22, 38, 73, 74, 94, 98, 139, 159, 436 (maybe) and 453. This due to the tourist attractions that these routes pass and because they have euro 3 vehicles. Are you sure? The 10,12,19,22,38,73,94,436 and 453. All use EuroIV & EuroV vehicles. Only the 6 & 8 use euro3 vehicles Well not all of them of course. As you say The 10,12,19,22,38,73,94,436 and 453. All use EuroIV & EuroV vehicles. Routes 6,8 and 98 have Euro 3 vehicles. But what Euro are VLAs and 05 reg DWs on the 159? And doesn't the 94 have Euro 3 TLA's. |
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Post by COBO on Nov 20, 2013 22:14:00 GMT
Here are the routes that I think are going to be converted: 6, 8, 10, 12, 14, 15, 19, 22, 38, 73, 74, 94, 98, 139, 159, 436 (maybe) and 453. This due to the tourist attractions that these routes pass and because they have euro 3 vehicles. I think the 94 would struggle with NBfLs in the Acton area. I have a feeling that the 94 will be altered to allow the NBFLs to go onto route 94. |
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Post by vjaska on Nov 20, 2013 22:47:22 GMT
Are you sure? The 10,12,19,22,38,73,94,436 and 453. All use EuroIV & EuroV vehicles. Only the 6 & 8 use euro3 vehicles Well not all of them of course. As you say The 10,12,19,22,38,73,94,436 and 453. All use EuroIV & EuroV vehicles. Routes 6,8 and 98 have Euro 3 vehicles. But what Euro are VLAs and 05 reg DWs on the 159? And doesn't the 94 have Euro 3 TLA's. The 159's VLA's are Euro III, the 05 reg DW's are Euro III with the remainder of the allocation being 59 reg DW's that are Euro IV - hope this helps. |
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Post by IanF on Nov 20, 2013 23:02:44 GMT
Here are the routes that I think are going to be converted: 6, 8, 10, 12, 14, 15, 19, 22, 38, 73, 74, 94, 98, 139, 159, 436 (maybe) and 453. This due to the tourist attractions that these routes pass and because they have euro 3 vehicles. You forgot the 88 and 188 Not too sure about 74 as it just got new buses but they could be cascaded to the 85 and 430 maybe. The 74's new buses are actually on paper the 22's buses. |
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Post by COBO on Nov 20, 2013 23:27:34 GMT
Here are the routes that I think are going to be converted: 6, 8, 10, 12, 14, 15, 19, 22, 38, 73, 74, 94, 98, 139, 159, 436 (maybe) and 453. This due to the tourist attractions that these routes pass and because they have euro 3 vehicles. You forgot the 88 and 188 Not too sure about 74 as it just got new buses but they could be cascaded to the 85 and 430 maybe. I didn't forget, I didn't mention them because I don't think routes 88 and 188 will be converted to NFBL. But you'll never know. |
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Post by COBO on Nov 20, 2013 23:29:34 GMT
Well not all of them of course. As you say The 10,12,19,22,38,73,94,436 and 453. All use EuroIV & EuroV vehicles. Routes 6,8 and 98 have Euro 3 vehicles. But what Euro are VLAs and 05 reg DWs on the 159? And doesn't the 94 have Euro 3 TLA's. The 159's VLA's are Euro III, the 05 reg DW's are Euro III with the remainder of the allocation being 59 reg DW's that are Euro IV - hope this helps. Thanks vjaska. That did help. |
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Post by M1104 on Nov 21, 2013 3:46:49 GMT
You forgot the 88 and 188 Not too sure about 74 as it just got new buses but they could be cascaded to the 85 and 430 maybe. I didn't forget, I didn't mention them because I don't think routes 88 and 188 will be converted to NFBL. But you'll never know. The LTs on the 11 also have 88 on their blinds. |
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Post by M1104 on Nov 21, 2013 3:52:39 GMT
Well not all of them of course. As you say The 10,12,19,22,38,73,94,436 and 453. All use EuroIV & EuroV vehicles. Routes 6,8 and 98 have Euro 3 vehicles. But what Euro are VLAs and 05 reg DWs on the 159? And doesn't the 94 have Euro 3 TLA's. The 159's VLA's are Euro III. Indeed they are euro3 engined, but those VLAs should soon be getting a new exhaust system, engine remapping, adblue tank, etc to effectively bring them up to euro5 standard. |
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Post by southlondonbus on Nov 21, 2013 10:37:00 GMT
I think the 88 could convert as it dosent penetrate outside C London that much as where it does its quite a popular destination anyway, Clapham Common. The 188 i doubt would its goes to far outside the central area. Seems crazy all the work done to the 159s VLAs as the contract ends in Dec 2015 as i cant see the route getting anextension plus i would not be surprised if the 319's HVs didnt end up on there anyway.
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Post by M1104 on Nov 21, 2013 13:58:37 GMT
I think the 88 could convert as it dosent penetrate outside C London that much as where it does its quite a popular destination anyway, Clapham Common. The 188 i doubt would its goes to far outside the central area. Seems crazy all the work done to the 159s VLAs as the contract ends in Dec 2015 as i cant see the route getting anextension plus i would not be surprised if the 319's HVs didnt end up on there anyway. I don't think the work on the VLA is "crazy" as they will still be utilised within Arriva London in one way or another, not to mention the benefits of reduced air pollution. In any case, TfL want all London buses up to at least euro4 engine emission by 2015. As for the 188, I actually wouldn't be surprised if the route gets converted for the tourism publicity of travelling between London and the O2 on a 'London bus'. I don't know how busy the route is on a general basis as I have only done it once when Q and SW shared it. |
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Post by ilovelondonbuses on Nov 21, 2013 14:02:30 GMT
I think the 88 could convert as it dosent penetrate outside C London that much as where it does its quite a popular destination anyway, Clapham Common. The 188 i doubt would its goes to far outside the central area. Seems crazy all the work done to the 159s VLAs as the contract ends in Dec 2015 as i cant see the route getting anextension plus i would not be surprised if the 319's HVs didnt end up on there anyway. These 55 reg VLAs could be used for up coming existing buses tender bid - i.e. route 415. |
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Not too sure about 74 as it just got new buses but they could be cascaded to the 85 and 430 maybe.
