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Post by NWBusConnoisseur on Jan 1, 2018 16:13:23 GMT
Surprised no one's mentioned the 142 at Edgware bus station. Anyone who has been there will have seen the group of GR drivers waiting there.
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Post by arj on Jan 1, 2018 16:30:12 GMT
Surprised no one's mentioned the 142 at Edgware bus station. Anyone who has been there will have seen the group of GR drivers waiting there. I'm not sure they always changeover there. The group of GR drivers there is often a combination of 288,303,305 and 340 drivers as they all changeover at Edgwar so they probably wait with fellow drivers from GR there. Also, I regularly board at Edgware station for the 142 and I haven't experienced too many driver changeovers but they definitely do occur there sometimes. |
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Post by NWBusConnoisseur on Jan 1, 2018 16:52:41 GMT
Surprised no one's mentioned the 142 at Edgware bus station. Anyone who has been there will have seen the group of GR drivers waiting there. I'm not sure they always changeover there. The group of GR drivers there is often a combination of 288,303,305 and 340 drivers as they all changeover at Edgwar so they probably wait with fellow drivers from GR there. Also, I regularly board at Edgware station for the 142 and I haven't experienced too many driver changeovers but they definitely do occur there sometimes. I use the 142 all the time and changeovers at Edgware are a common occurance. However it doesn't happen all the time and doesn't really happen towards Brent Cross. |
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Post by arj on Jan 1, 2018 17:23:01 GMT
I'm not sure they always changeover there. The group of GR drivers there is often a combination of 288,303,305 and 340 drivers as they all changeover at Edgwar so they probably wait with fellow drivers from GR there. Also, I regularly board at Edgware station for the 142 and I haven't experienced too many driver changeovers but they definitely do occur there sometimes. I use the 142 all the time and changeovers at Edgware are a common occurance. However it doesn't happen all the time and doesn't really happen towards Brent Cross. That's interesting as I also travel almost exclusively towards Watford Junction from Edgware and rarely experience them. |
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Post by NWBusConnoisseur on Jan 1, 2018 18:36:32 GMT
I use the 142 all the time and changeovers at Edgware are a common occurance. However it doesn't happen all the time and doesn't really happen towards Brent Cross. That's interesting as I also travel almost exclusively towards Watford Junction from Edgware and rarely experience them. I've noticed that it hasn't been happening a lot recently though. |
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Post by arj on Jan 1, 2018 19:08:52 GMT
That's interesting as I also travel almost exclusively towards Watford Junction from Edgware and rarely experience them. I've noticed that it hasn't been happening a lot recently though. Driver changeovers may be happening at Watford Junction then. GR haven't exactly been zealous since recent tenders and the towels basically been thrown in now with less than a week to go. I think I saw that so many drivers had moved meaning other Arriva garages have had to loan drivers. |
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Post by YY13VKP on Jan 1, 2018 19:19:56 GMT
Metrobus Croydon changeover points:
Route 119 - Purley Way/Collonades
Route 127 - Purley Station
Route 202 - Crystal Palace Bus Station
Route 293 - Morden Station (some buses can go to Merton Garage so that drivers can take their meal break)
Route 355 - Mitcham, Downe Road (Mid Route)
Route 359 - Purley Station
Route 405 - West Croydon Bus Station
Route 434 - Purley Station (Mid Route)
Route 455 - Beddington Lane/Sewage Treatment Works (opposite Croydon Garage) (Mid Route)
Route X26 - Delta Point (West Croydon Stand)
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Post by 725DYE on Jan 2, 2018 1:09:53 GMT
Routes 60, 166 and 466 are all done conveniently done outside TC garage. Too bad the drivers have to chatter on for ages, forgetting that there are actual people on the bus trying to get to places  Route 463 (and S4 when with Epsom Coaches) is done at Wallington Station and one can often see one of the division’s Vauxhall’s or vans parked up in the station car park. However, with an hourly train service to Epsom which is being boosted to 2tph with the reinstated London Bridge to Epsom via. West Croydon service at the end of this year, one questions why they don’t just use the train and beat the traffic  |
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Post by ThinLizzy on Jan 2, 2018 3:51:58 GMT
Routes 60, 166 and 466 are all done conveniently done outside TC garage. Too bad the drivers have to chatter on for ages, forgetting that there are actual people on the bus trying to get to places Route 463 (and S4 when with Epsom Coaches) is done at Wallington Station and one can often see one of the division’s Vauxhall’s or vans parked up in the station car park. However, with an hourly train service to Epsom which is being boosted to 2tph with the reinstated London Bridge to Epsom via. West Croydon service at the end of this year, one questions why they don’t just use the train and beat the traffic Tbeir staff oyster cards don't give them free travel on Southern- why pay when you can use company fuel for free instead |
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Post by thewintersoldier on Jan 2, 2018 6:40:51 GMT
232 and 324 change at the bus stop just outside of Brent Cross. Which causes problems when you get both at the same time as you can only put one bus in the bus stop bay......
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Post by sid on Jan 2, 2018 8:55:42 GMT
Routes 60, 166 and 466 are all done conveniently done outside TC garage. Too bad the drivers have to chatter on for ages, forgetting that there are actual people on the bus trying to get to places Route 463 (and S4 when with Epsom Coaches) is done at Wallington Station and one can often see one of the division’s Vauxhall’s or vans parked up in the station car park. However, with an hourly train service to Epsom which is being boosted to 2tph with the reinstated London Bridge to Epsom via. West Croydon service at the end of this year, one questions why they don’t just use the train and beat the traffic I don't know if it's been mentioned but the 412 changeovers' at the Swan & Sugar Loaf, thought it might have been easier to run OOS from Purley considering the 412 turns round at the Volkswagen building not far from TC. I've also seen QL crew ferry vehicles at Wallington Station. I'm not sure using the train would be a viable option. Drivers chatting is a common problem amongst all operators, I think live changeovers are best avoided as far as possible. |
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Post by ctrh136 on Jan 4, 2018 14:20:06 GMT
The 194, 197 and 264 run light from Croydon to TC for driver changes, and the 403 and 412 change over at the Swan & Sugar Loaf I thought the 403 ran light to TC from West Croydon as per the 194 and the 412 from Purley. A few of them do especially in the evenings but most change at south croydon |
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Post by grubbysa on Jan 5, 2018 12:58:51 GMT
I've noticed that it hasn't been happening a lot recently though. Driver changeovers may be happening at Watford Junction then. GR haven't exactly been zealous since recent tenders and the towels basically been thrown in now with less than a week to go. I think I saw that so many drivers had moved meaning other Arriva garages have had to loan drivers. The majority of 142 changeovers are done at Watford Junction however a couple do happen at Edgware. However from tomorrow I guess it will just be Edgware |
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Post by DOE27 on Jan 6, 2018 23:14:34 GMT
From what I know, sorry I can't complete all the lists for Abellio's routes. WL; 3 - Kennington Church, 45 - Camberwell Green, 172 - Elephant & Castle: New Kent Road, 343 - Elephant & Castle: Newington Causeway, 381 - Peckham and Waterloo, 415 - Elephant & Castle: New Kent Road, 484 - Walworth Garage, C10 - Inner London Crown Court, P13 - Hanover Park (towards Streatham), The Aylesham Centre (towards New Cross Gate), N3 - Kennington Church, N343 - Elephant & Castle: Newington Causeway, N381 - Peckham, BC; 109 - Croydon: Katherine Street, 130 - Addington Village, 201 - Mitcham: Bell Green (via ferry car), 367 - West Croydon, 433 - West Croydon, N109 - Croydon: Katherine Street, Unsure of 407, 464 or S4 arrangements. QB; 159 - Kennington Church. I believe the 464's changeovers are done at New Addington with drivers using the tram between there & Beddington Lane though not 100% sure. For some reason, Croydon Road, Plough Lane seems to ring a bell in regards to the 407's doing changeovers? Yes, the 407 does change over here - always seems to take 5-10 minutes...! |
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Post by galwhv69 on Jan 17, 2018 16:50:22 GMT
Currently on a 333 towards Tooting Broadway
7 minute changeover at BN which is unacceptable in my opinion
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