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Post by M1104 on Sept 20, 2015 12:58:42 GMT
Just bumping to add the QB routes 3: Kennington Chruch 49: Clapham Junction 156: Vauxhall 211: Waterloo 344: Clapham Junction 414: Putney Bridge 452: Sliverthorne Road (Near QB) C2: Victoria C3: Clapham Junction C10: Victoria Do you know if the 159s are expected to change at Kennington Church alongside the 3s? The stops can be congestive enough with one route but with 2 high frequency routes? (bearing in mind that both routes crew changed there in the 90s when operated mainly by Q)
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Post by Nathan on Sept 20, 2015 13:28:17 GMT
I wonder why 156 drivers change here as opposed to Silverthorne Road like the 452. I would have thought that would be much easier.
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Post by M1104 on Sept 20, 2015 14:14:09 GMT
I wonder why 156 drivers change here as opposed to Silverthorne Road like the 452. I would have thought that would be much easier. The 452 changes are done on Queenstown Road. The 156 arrangement is likely down to negotiation between Abellio and TfL as Vauxhall Bus Station has on sight staffroom and toilet facilities.
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Post by ilovelondonbuses on Sept 22, 2015 23:11:31 GMT
I wonder why 156 drivers change here as opposed to Silverthorne Road like the 452. I would have thought that would be much easier. The 452 changes are done on Queenstown Road. The 156 arrangement is likely down to negotiation between Abellio and TfL as Vauxhall Bus Station has on sight staffroom and toilet facilities. Route 452's changeover point will be Vauxhall if gets extended to the bus station.
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Post by ilovelondonbuses on Sept 22, 2015 23:14:28 GMT
Just bumping to add the QB routes 3: Kennington Chruch 49: Clapham Junction 156: Vauxhall 211: Waterloo 344: Clapham Junction 414: Putney Bridge 452: Sliverthorne Road (Near QB) C2: Victoria C3: Clapham Junction C10: Victoria Do you know if the 159s are expected to change at Kennington Church alongside the 3s? The stops can be congestive enough with one route but with 2 high frequency routes? (bearing in mind that both routes crew changed there in the 90s when operated mainly by Q) I will try and find that out. I think it will be Kennington Church to be honest due to facilities already there for Abellio drivers.
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Post by ilovelondonbuses on Dec 18, 2017 17:44:14 GMT
Apologies for bumping up a very old thread but I wanted to know since there have been a lot of operator changes in the past two years, there must be new driver changeover points across London. If anyone could contribute that would be grand.
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Post by Eastlondoner62 on Dec 18, 2017 17:56:17 GMT
Apologies for bumping up a very old thread but I wanted to know since there have been a lot of operator changes in the past two years, there must be new driver changeover points across London. If anyone could contribute that would be grand. A few off the top of my head 5: Barking Town Centre 15: Blackwall 115: East Ham, Central Park 175: Becontree Heath but some are done at Dagenham, New Road 188: Canada Water and North Greenwich 167: Ilford, Hainault Street 462: Ilford, Hainault Street 362: King George Hospital
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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2017 18:39:32 GMT
Apologies for bumping up a very old thread but I wanted to know since there have been a lot of operator changes in the past two years, there must be new driver changeover points across London. If anyone could contribute that would be grand. A few recent changes: Route 180: Vanbrugh Hill Route 286: Mon-Sat: Reliefs and some finishes at Cutty Sark. Some Finishes at Vanbrugh Hill. Sundays (All changeovers): MG Garage. Buses that change over run out of service from CS to MG, where drivers changeover. Route 108: Blackwall Lane/Dreadnought Street Route 129: North Greenwich Route 1: Waterloo Route 453: NX Garage Route 225: Canada Water Plans for the future: Route 386: The Plaza
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Post by Nathan on Dec 18, 2017 18:41:08 GMT
Actually I did notice a change over at The Old Vic, Waterloo on the 1. I was told that NX have change overs there all the time.
I think I saw a route 188 change over there a few weeks back, but can't remember.
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Post by busoccultation on Dec 18, 2017 19:37:02 GMT
Arriva London:
Barking (DX) 128: Becontree Heath (Mid Route) 150: Becontree Heath 173: Outside DX (Mid Route) 175: Becontree Heath (Mid Route) and Dagenham, New Road (Evenings and Sundays are done at the garage) 325: East Beckton Sainsbury's 368: Ripple Road, Thatched House (Mid Route)
Grays (GY) 66: Romford Station 103: Rainham Station (Some Evenings and Weekends are done at the garage) 347 Ockendon Station 370: Lakeside (Evenings are done at the garage) 375 Romford Station
Go-Ahead London:
River Road (RR) 5: Barking Town Centre (Mid Route) 15: Blackwall and Aldgate Station (Mid Route) 101: Beckton Station (Mid Route) 115: East Ham Central Park and Canning Town Station (Mid Route) 147: Ilford Terminus 193: Queens Hospital 300: Beckton Station (Mid Route) 346: Upminster Station 364: Ilford Terminus (Few of them are done at Dagenham East Terminus as well) 376: Beckton Station 474: Beckton Station (Mid Route) EL1: River Road, Waverley Gardens (Mid Route) (Evenings are done at the garage) EL2: River Road, Waverley Gardens (Mid Route) (Evenings are done at the garage) EL3: Outside RR (Mid Route) N15: Canning Town Station (Mid Route)
Slivertown (SI) 100: Shadwell and Aldgate Station (Mid Route) 135: Crossharbour 276 Stratford Broadway (Towards Stoke Newington) (Mid Route), Stratford Bus Station (Towards Newham Hospital) (Mid Route) and Newham Hospital D6: Crossharbour D7: All Saints station and Island Gardens Station (Mid Route) D8: Crossharbour
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Post by Paul on Dec 18, 2017 19:38:56 GMT
Since the extension to the route, the changeovers on the R7 are mid route at Orpington Station. It can get awkward at times because the bays aren’t enormous and the 353 and R2 also change over there - not to mention the 61s and 208s wanting to serve the stops as well!
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Post by lwldriver on Dec 19, 2017 2:37:55 GMT
From what I know, sorry I can't complete all the lists for Abellio's routes.
WL; 3 - Kennington Church, 45 - Camberwell Green, 172 - Elephant & Castle: New Kent Road, 343 - Elephant & Castle: Newington Causeway, 381 - Peckham and Waterloo, 415 - Elephant & Castle: New Kent Road, 484 - Walworth Garage, C10 - Inner London Crown Court, P13 - Hanover Park (towards Streatham), The Aylesham Centre (towards New Cross Gate), N3 - Kennington Church, N343 - Elephant & Castle: Newington Causeway, N381 - Peckham,
BC; 109 - Croydon: Katherine Street, 130 - Addington Village, 201 - Mitcham: Bell Green (via ferry car), 367 - West Croydon, 433 - West Croydon, N109 - Croydon: Katherine Street, Unsure of 407, 464 or S4 arrangements.
QB; 159 - Kennington Church.
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Post by vjaska on Dec 19, 2017 3:10:32 GMT
From what I know, sorry I can't complete all the lists for Abellio's routes. WL; 3 - Kennington Church, 45 - Camberwell Green, 172 - Elephant & Castle: New Kent Road, 343 - Elephant & Castle: Newington Causeway, 381 - Peckham and Waterloo, 415 - Elephant & Castle: New Kent Road, 484 - Walworth Garage, C10 - Inner London Crown Court, P13 - Hanover Park (towards Streatham), The Aylesham Centre (towards New Cross Gate), N3 - Kennington Church, N343 - Elephant & Castle: Newington Causeway, N381 - Peckham, BC; 109 - Croydon: Katherine Street, 130 - Addington Village, 201 - Mitcham: Bell Green (via ferry car), 367 - West Croydon, 433 - West Croydon, N109 - Croydon: Katherine Street, Unsure of 407, 464 or S4 arrangements. QB; 159 - Kennington Church. I believe the 464's changeovers are done at New Addington with drivers using the tram between there & Beddington Lane though not 100% sure. For some reason, Croydon Road, Plough Lane seems to ring a bell in regards to the 407's doing changeovers?
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Post by lwldriver on Dec 19, 2017 8:12:06 GMT
From what I know, sorry I can't complete all the lists for Abellio's routes. WL; 3 - Kennington Church, 45 - Camberwell Green, 172 - Elephant & Castle: New Kent Road, 343 - Elephant & Castle: Newington Causeway, 381 - Peckham and Waterloo, 415 - Elephant & Castle: New Kent Road, 484 - Walworth Garage, C10 - Inner London Crown Court, P13 - Hanover Park (towards Streatham), The Aylesham Centre (towards New Cross Gate), N3 - Kennington Church, N343 - Elephant & Castle: Newington Causeway, N381 - Peckham, BC; 109 - Croydon: Katherine Street, 130 - Addington Village, 201 - Mitcham: Bell Green (via ferry car), 367 - West Croydon, 433 - West Croydon, N109 - Croydon: Katherine Street, Unsure of 407, 464 or S4 arrangements. QB; 159 - Kennington Church. I believe the 464's changeovers are done at New Addington with drivers using the tram between there & Beddington Lane though not 100% sure. For some reason, Croydon Road, Plough Lane seems to ring a bell in regards to the 407's doing changeovers? Therapia Lane is tram stop used by BC drivers as it's closer to the garage. 464 most likely.
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Post by john on Dec 19, 2017 15:19:47 GMT
Stagecoach Rainham changeovers; 165 - Rainham Tesco (Abbey Wood Lane), Rainham War Memorial (The Brewery) 174 - Romford Station 248 - Romford Station 252 - Romford Station 256 - Hornchurch Town Centre 287 - Rainham Tesco (Abbey Wood Lane), Rainham War Memorial (Barking) 365 - Romford Station (Mon-Sat), Orchard Village (Sundays) 372 - Rainham Tesco
Sunday's differ. Majority of Romford changeovers happen at the garage on a Sunday apart from a couple of duties
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