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Post by M1104 on Jul 20, 2014 16:46:04 GMT
Just got a text that the bus is parked by WL's main office (can be seen from Camberwell new Road).
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Post by vjaska on Jul 20, 2014 21:30:45 GMT
I was looking at your pics earlier Dave they are great. Did you try legroom on the upper deck? Also that seat on the lower deck behind nearside front wheel arch looks cramped unless its just the angle of the camera. The rear downstairs seats have more legroom than the older version, legroom upstairs seems to be similar - I actually should of tried it out upstairs lol.
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Post by londonbusboy on Jul 20, 2014 21:33:27 GMT
I was looking at your pics earlier Dave they are great. Did you try legroom on the upper deck? Also that seat on the lower deck behind nearside front wheel arch looks cramped unless its just the angle of the camera. The rear downstairs seats have more legroom than the older version, legroom upstairs seems to be similar - I actually should of tried it out upstairs lol. Thanks, the extra 0.1 in length seems to make a difference lol
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Post by VPL630 on Jul 20, 2014 23:28:44 GMT
I highly doubt it will go into service
It's Low Height No Tax No Registration No O Disc
It's not actually London Red as such, you have to see the bus in person to know what I'm talking about
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Post by Volvo on Jul 20, 2014 23:44:25 GMT
low height? why would it be low height and built to london spec?
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Post by Volvo on Jul 20, 2014 23:49:58 GMT
Infact scrap that just had a quick look on ADLs website it is not low height it isstandard height. There is two heights for the E400 and only the 10.9m version comes in low height.
10.3m 1 & 2 door is 4300mm/14'2 10.9m 1 door 4200mm/13'9 or 4300mm/14'2 11.5m 1 door 4300mm/14'2
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Post by Deleted on Jul 20, 2014 23:58:30 GMT
I highly doubt it will go into service It's Low Height No Tax No Registration No O Disc It's not actually London Red as such, you have to see the bus in person to know what I'm talking about Not sure it would be low height then built to London spec, wouldn't provide any indication to operators as to what to expect for the finshed product.
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Post by Volvo on Jul 21, 2014 0:05:53 GMT
I highly doubt it will go into service It's Low Height No Tax No Registration No O Disc It's not actually London Red as such, you have to see the bus in person to know what I'm talking about Not sure it would be low height then built to London spec, wouldn't provide any indication to operators as to what to expect for the finshed product. It's not low height
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Post by jay38a on Jul 21, 2014 10:37:21 GMT
Infact scrap that just had a quick look on ADLs website it is not low height it isstandard height. There is two heights for the E400 and only the 10.9m version comes in low height. 10.3m 1 & 2 door is 4300mm/14'2 10.9m 1 door 4200mm/13'9 or 4300mm/14'2 11.5m 1 door 4300mm/14'2 14'2 that's a new height, full height is normally 14'6
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Post by VPL630 on Jul 21, 2014 11:49:28 GMT
Infact scrap that just had a quick look on ADLs website it is not low height it isstandard height. There is two heights for the E400 and only the 10.9m version comes in low height. 10.3m 1 & 2 door is 4300mm/14'2 10.9m 1 door 4200mm/13'9 or 4300mm/14'2 11.5m 1 door 4300mm/14'2 14'2 that's a new height, full height is normally 14'6 That's what I was thinking but oh well, seems I was wrong, You can't really tell when you are in the bus, it doesn't make that much difference and I guess that's how they are saving weight, It's much nicer inside than the Gemini 3 is anyway
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Post by LX09FBJ on Jul 21, 2014 15:13:30 GMT
Infact scrap that just had a quick look on ADLs website it is not low height it isstandard height. There is two heights for the E400 and only the 10.9m version comes in low height. 10.3m 1 & 2 door is 4300mm/14'2 10.9m 1 door 4200mm/13'9 or 4300mm/14'2 11.5m 1 door 4300mm/14'2 14'2 that's a new height, full height is normally 14'6 The 56 reg SPs at AV and HH are 14'2 and are apparently classed as Low Height. At WL I went on the MMC and it didn't feel that low.
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Post by M1104 on Jul 21, 2014 15:16:53 GMT
14'2 that's a new height, full height is normally 14'6 The 56 reg SPs at AV and HH are 14'2 and are apparently classed as Low Height. At WL I went on the MMC and it didn't feel that low. I believe the Optare Spectras that Q had in the 90s were of similar height, 14'2 or 14'3.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 21, 2014 15:36:55 GMT
SP1-15 were ordered out of Central London by Tfl for being such low height. Best SPs though!
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Post by Volvo on Jul 21, 2014 20:24:43 GMT
Infact scrap that just had a quick look on ADLs website it is not low height it isstandard height. There is two heights for the E400 and only the 10.9m version comes in low height. 10.3m 1 & 2 door is 4300mm/14'2 10.9m 1 door 4200mm/13'9 or 4300mm/14'2 11.5m 1 door 4300mm/14'2 14'2 that's a new height, full height is normally 14'6 Full height current gen E400s and all presidents were yes, Geminis and Alx400s amongst other types are 14'5. Arriva's 52-55reg ALX400 B7TL/DB250s are 14'3.
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Post by vjaska on Jul 21, 2014 23:23:58 GMT
14'2 that's a new height, full height is normally 14'6 Full height current gen E400s and all presidents were yes, Geminis and Alx400s amongst other types are 14'5. Arriva's 52-55reg ALX400 B7TL/DB250s are 14'3. VLA1-55 are 14'5'' from memory, not sure about VLA56-73, the other Arriva ALX400's are right though.
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