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Post by Deleted on Jun 10, 2014 22:46:58 GMT
A few P13 buses still say Streatham, Bus Garage even though there is no garage there. And come to think of it, shouldn't buses terminating at Telford Avenue say "Brixton, Bus Garage". Or maybe even "Streatham, Brixton Bus Garage". Or "Streatham Hill, Brixton Bus Garage". I think the latter is accurate, but too long. Another thing is the Brockley Cross turn for the 172. I think it should be renamed "Brockley, Millmark Grove" given that the name of the last stop is Millmark Grove. Or maybe "Brockley, Shardeloes Road" would be good enough. 'Brixton Bus Garage' would confuse people as it's not in Brixton or even the postcode for Brixton which is SW9. ' 'Streatham, Brixton Bus Garage' would also confuse people because it's not in Streatham or even Streatham's postcode which is SW16. Streatham is where the new Tesco is situated 'Streatham Hill, Brixton Bus Garage' is accurate but 'Streatham Hill, Telford Avenue' is well known by most users of the routes that pass Brixton Garage and has been the blind for many, many years so I'd prefer it to remain as it is. Of course it's not strictly accurate as it doesn't actually terminate on Telford Avenue!
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Post by DT 11 on Jun 10, 2014 22:56:00 GMT
124 & 126
124 Eltham, Southend Crescent 126 Eltham, High Street
They were then changed to
124 Eltham 126 Eltham
Then changed back to
124 Eltham, Southend Crescent 126 Eltham, High Street
Should have left it how it was in the First place lol.
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Post by vjaska on Jun 10, 2014 23:03:41 GMT
'Brixton Bus Garage' would confuse people as it's not in Brixton or even the postcode for Brixton which is SW9. ' 'Streatham, Brixton Bus Garage' would also confuse people because it's not in Streatham or even Streatham's postcode which is SW16. Streatham is where the new Tesco is situated 'Streatham Hill, Brixton Bus Garage' is accurate but 'Streatham Hill, Telford Avenue' is well known by most users of the routes that pass Brixton Garage and has been the blind for many, many years so I'd prefer it to remain as it is. Of course it's not strictly accurate as it doesn't actually terminate on Telford Avenue! Never said that the 'Streatham Hill, Telford Avenue' blind is accurate, only that 'Streatham Hill, Brixton Bus Garage' would be accurate.
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Post by westhamgeezer on Jun 11, 2014 7:43:18 GMT
Of course it's not strictly accurate as it doesn't actually terminate on Telford Avenue! Never said that the 'Streatham Hill, Telford Avenue' blind is accurate, only that 'Streatham Hill, Brixton Bus Garage' would be accurate. The route 38 RML's used to terminate at "Hackney, Clapton Bus Garage" before it was changed to didplay "Hackney Central". I wonder why its never been called "STREATHAM HILL, Brixton Garage"? Or has it in the past?
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Post by John tuthill on Jun 11, 2014 8:02:27 GMT
Never said that the 'Streatham Hill, Telford Avenue' blind is accurate, only that 'Streatham Hill, Brixton Bus Garage' would be accurate. The route 38 RML's used to terminate at "Hackney, Clapton Bus Garage" before it was changed to didplay "Hackney Central". I wonder why its never been called "STREATHAM HILL, Brixton Garage"? Or has it in the past? It's always as far back as I can remember been displayed as 'Streatham Telford Avenue'
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Post by TA1 on Jun 11, 2014 8:08:34 GMT
18 blinds prior to the introduction of the VN's was Sudbury, Swan which is still in use. But no uses the plain destination of Sudbury The W4**XKX ADL's that formerly operated on route W14, whilst installed with its original electric 3 track blinds displayed Woodford Bridge, Repton park. Alas now, the buses simply display Woodford Bridge The overall curtailment that is Markhouse corner was formally known as Leyton, Gloucester Road. The 92's used to display prior to the introduction of the TE's - St Raphaels Way, Drury Way.
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Post by twobellstogo on Jun 11, 2014 8:17:34 GMT
Back in the day, the current Queen's Park Station terminal was called West Kilburn.
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Post by mondraker275 on Jun 11, 2014 8:26:54 GMT
275 blinds used to read Barkingside, Tesco, but it is now just Barkingside. I always think TfL should get stores to pay to have there name on bus blinds or read out on ibus.
Also, did buses terminating in Ilford have Hainault Road added on? I remember them on the 123, and now they dont have them.
215 Yardley Lane Estate to Yardley Lane is another I think.
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Post by TA1 on Jun 11, 2014 8:43:53 GMT
275 blinds used to read Barkingside, Tesco, but it is now just Barkingside. I always think TfL should get stores to pay to have there name on bus blinds or read out on ibus. Also, did buses terminating in Ilford have Hainault Road added on? I remember them on the 123, and now they dont have them. 215 Yardley Lane Estate to Yardley Lane is another I think. The majority of Ilford Terminating buses, used to either display Ilford, Hainault Street or Ilford, Roden Street (Where the 396 terminates)
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Post by Nathan on Jun 11, 2014 8:55:05 GMT
Norwood Garage > Norwood, Bus Garage
Does the iBus still say "2 to West Norwood"? I remember getting confused a few years ago when the front said "Norwood Garage" (as at the time I had not been to Norwood before, so I didn't know that the garage was at West Norwood).
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Post by DT 11 on Jun 11, 2014 9:10:30 GMT
Norwood Garage > Norwood, Bus Garage Does the iBus still say "2 to West Norwood"? I remember getting confused a few years ago when the front said "Norwood Garage" (as at the time I had not been to Norwood before, so I didn't know that the garage was at West Norwood). iBus still states "2 to West Norwood" I think when the 68 was operated by Arriva the blinds were showing "Norwood Garage"
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Post by bigbaddom1981 on Jun 11, 2014 9:34:07 GMT
Some of the simplification is good, some is quite ambiguous
Routes terminating in Enfield Towm now only show Enfield, despite ENFIELD being a borough and could be anywhere! The 231 says Enfield Chase which is the right one, but if it's short turned to Enfield Town it displays just Enfield.
For me blinds should be specific to the area but not too non-specific
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Post by vjaska on Jun 11, 2014 10:40:27 GMT
Norwood Garage > Norwood, Bus Garage Does the iBus still say "2 to West Norwood"? I remember getting confused a few years ago when the front said "Norwood Garage" (as at the time I had not been to Norwood before, so I didn't know that the garage was at West Norwood). iBus still states "2 to West Norwood" I think when the 68 was operated by Arriva the blinds were showing "Norwood Garage" Yeah, the 68 under Arriva and 2's running from Marylebone when it was ran in overlapping sections had 'Norwood Garage' as their blind.
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Post by Nathan on Jun 11, 2014 11:11:46 GMT
Some of the simplification is good, some is quite ambiguous Routes terminating in Enfield Towm now only show Enfield, despite ENFIELD being a borough and could be anywhere! The 231 says Enfield Chase which is the right one, but if it's short turned to Enfield Town it displays just Enfield. For me blinds should be specific to the area but not too non-specific You have a point there. Like on the 185 buses it just says "Lewisham" when it could be anywhere in Lewisham. And given the recent changes in the area, some people may still get confused. Although some other blinds are very accurate. For example on the 436 buses there's "Lewisham, Jerrard Street", "Lewisham Station", or " Lewisham, Shopping Centre".
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Post by DT 11 on Jun 11, 2014 11:21:06 GMT
Some of the simplification is good, some is quite ambiguous Routes terminating in Enfield Towm now only show Enfield, despite ENFIELD being a borough and could be anywhere! The 231 says Enfield Chase which is the right one, but if it's short turned to Enfield Town it displays just Enfield. For me blinds should be specific to the area but not too non-specific You have a point there. Like on the 185 buses it just says "Lewisham" when it could be anywhere in Lewisham. And given the recent changes in the area, some people may still get confused. Although some other blinds are very accurate. For example on the 436 buses there's "Lewisham, Jerrard Street", "Lewisham Station", or " Lewisham, Shopping Centre". All Lewisham blinds for routes which terminate there should be officially stating "Lewisham, Shopping Centre" excluding the 273. One thing 108, 178 & P4 drivers who drive vehicles with manual blinds need to stop showing "Lewisham Station" as it is now just misleading. The 208 & 261 buses have "Lewisham, Shopping Centre" on the blinds, but are smart blinds and could be re-programmed to show that. To be fair when those WVLs moved to Q. No one probably knew what the blinds were to officially state, but then again something could have actually been arranged a while back, the closure of Lewisham Bus Station wasn't exactly news and was planned a long while ago. The buses on the 284 could have been prepared with the correct blinds and same for the fleet on the 208 & 261.
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