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Post by Mokujin on Jun 11, 2014 13:55:09 GMT
The Citaros that were used on 453 under Stagecoach just used to show 'Deptford' but when the route went to GAL, the Citaros used then and also its current buses show 'Deptford Bridge'.
The Citaros that were used on 436 used to show 'Lewisham Centre' but then changed to 'Lewisham, Shopping Centre'.
I also remember route 21's old PVLs used to show 'Lewisham, Lewisham Centre'.
The 51-Reg TAs (I think some of them) at WL still show 'Peckham Bus Station' instead of 'Peckham'.
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Post by DT 11 on Jun 11, 2014 13:59:38 GMT
'Brixton Bus Garage' would confuse people as it's not in Brixton or even the postcode for Brixton which is SW9. ' 'Streatham, Brixton Bus Garage' would also confuse people because it's not in Streatham or even Streatham's postcode which is SW16. Streatham is where the new Tesco is situated 'Streatham Hill, Brixton Bus Garage' is accurate but 'Streatham Hill, Telford Avenue' is well known by most users of the routes that pass Brixton Garage and has been the blind for many, many years so I'd prefer it to remain as it is. You raise a few fair points. I was literally going by the idea of the change of "Catford Garage" to "Bellingham, Catford Bus Garage". Bear in mind, that Plumstead Bus Garage is actually in Thamesmead West, as the postcode is SE28. And yet it's still called by Plumstead. Plumstead is a better, more well known than name than Thamesmead West. If PD was called Thamesmead West a lot of people would ask where is Thamesmead West. Also Plumstead Station & Plulmstead High Street are near PD so Plumstead Bus Garage makes a lot more sense than Thamesmead West.
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Post by DT 11 on Jun 11, 2014 14:02:22 GMT
The 321 still uses Sidcup, Police Station even though it's been closed for 2 years. Saw PVL170 on the 321 showing "Sidcup Station" That turn could be renamed "Sidcup, High Street"
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Post by DT 11 on Jun 11, 2014 14:05:47 GMT
The Citaros that were used on 453 under Stagecoach just used to show 'Deptford' but when the route went to GAL, the Citaros used then and also its current buses show 'Deptford Bridge'. The Citaros that were used on 436 used to show 'Lewisham Centre' but then changed to 'Lewisham, Shopping Centre'. I also remember route 21's old PVLs used to show 'Lewisham, Lewisham Centre'. The 51-Reg TAs (I think some of them) at WL still show 'Peckham Bus Station' instead of 'Peckham'. To be more precise, the Citaros that were on the 436 displayed "Lewisham Centre" PVL319 still has an old blind set so will display "Lewisham, Lewisham Centre" if used on the 21.
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Post by Hassaan on Jun 13, 2014 0:44:24 GMT
275 blinds used to read Barkingside, Tesco, but it is now just Barkingside. I always think TfL should get stores to pay to have there name on bus blinds or read out on ibus. Also, did buses terminating in Ilford have Hainault Road added on? I remember them on the 123, and now they dont have them. 215 Yardley Lane Estate to Yardley Lane is another I think. Yes, plain "Ilford" is Hainault Street, the one by Sainsbury's used by the 296/396 normally and as curtailments is "Ilford Broadway" while the EL1/EL2 terminating at Ilford Hill have "Ilford Station" (which is a couple of minutes away). The 179 with the DN's had "Ilford, High Road" as the normal display but that dates from when the route ran to Barking Town Centre as the few with replaced blinds displayed the plain Ilford".
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Post by Hassaan on Jun 13, 2014 0:47:17 GMT
18 blinds prior to the introduction of the VN's was Sudbury, Swan which is still in use. But no uses the plain destination of Sudbury The W4**XKX ADL's that formerly operated on route W14, whilst installed with its original electric 3 track blinds displayed Woodford Bridge, Repton park. Alas now, the buses simply display Woodford Bridge The overall curtailment that is Markhouse corner was formally known as Leyton, Gloucester Road. The 92's used to display prior to the introduction of the TE's - St Raphaels Way, Drury Way. The 18 should ideally be "Sudbury & Harrow Road Station" but that would probably become too small to see properly and have the Station omitted at the end. That explains why I saw Gloucester Road on an old TA/TAS blind at the Catford open day (The "Leyton, Downsell Road" was "Leyton High Road, Downsell Road" on those) And the 92 had St Raphael's North, not Way
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Post by TA1 on Jun 13, 2014 8:52:16 GMT
18 blinds prior to the introduction of the VN's was Sudbury, Swan which is still in use. But no uses the plain destination of Sudbury The W4**XKX ADL's that formerly operated on route W14, whilst installed with its original electric 3 track blinds displayed Woodford Bridge, Repton park. Alas now, the buses simply display Woodford Bridge The overall curtailment that is Markhouse corner was formally known as Leyton, Gloucester Road. The 92's used to display prior to the introduction of the TE's - St Raphaels Way, Drury Way. The 18 should ideally be "Sudbury & Harrow Road Station" but that would probably become too small to see properly and have the Station omitted at the end. That explains why I saw Gloucester Road on an old TA/TAS blind at the Catford open day (The "Leyton, Downsell Road" was "Leyton High Road, Downsell Road" on those) And the 92 had St Raphael's North, not Way With the 18, When it used Metrobus, It's ultimate blind - Was 'Sudbury, Swan', with the same used on the Presidents. - After the Introduction of the Citaros, Sudbury, Sudbury Inn was used. To be honest, It would be ideal to name the blinds after the station but as you said that blind would be awfully squashed - But, it must be considered that back in the day, seeing as their were more pubs prominent back in the day, they were considered to be places of interest as demonstrated with the 58, East Ham, White Horse. The 92, issue was a typo but cheers for highlighting my error. As for the Leyton High Road, Downsell Road blind - I don't ever recall seeing it. When the 97 was operated by Capital Citybus with yellow olympians Eons ago, the blind simply stated Leyton, Downsell Road. What year was that blind dated from? - Learn something new everyday
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Post by vjaska on Jun 13, 2014 9:38:34 GMT
'East Dulwich, Goose Green' is now simply 'East Dulwich'
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Post by John tuthill on Jun 13, 2014 9:48:03 GMT
'East Dulwich, Goose Green' is now simply 'East Dulwich' When did this backward trend start? With the above you knew where you were going, but 'East Dulwich' where EXACTLY in 'East Dulwich?' In Surbiton I see on the 71 'Chessington' & Kingston' and on the 281 'Tolworth' What's wrong with having a precise destination displayed?
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Post by TA1 on Jun 13, 2014 9:48:50 GMT
The simplified destinations implemented by TFL have seen the 169 blinds now display Clayhall, When they previously used to display ' Clayhall, The glade'; The same also applies for the 473, where the ultimate blinds used to display North Woolwich, Free Ferry in years gone by, that destination has been shortened to North Woolwich. -The PDL's that used to operate on the 173, used to display - Goodmayes, King George Hospital; although after the introduction of the E200's, the ultimate destination was simplified to display 'King George Hospital'
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Post by vjaska on Jun 13, 2014 10:47:26 GMT
'East Dulwich, Goose Green' is now simply 'East Dulwich' When did this backward trend start? With the above you knew where you were going, but 'East Dulwich' where EXACTLY in 'East Dulwich?' In Surbiton I see on the 71 'Chessington' & Kingston' and on the 281 'Tolworth' What's wrong with having a precise destination displayed? The 37's E's from new have had the simplified version - I agree, I'd much rather the fuller version and that goes for a lot of other blinds too. There might be some older PVL's knocking around with that blind still.
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Post by Nathan on Jun 13, 2014 13:48:12 GMT
Come to think of it...why did they change "Catford Garage" to "Bellingham...". Wouldn't "Catford, Bus Garage" have been enough? Just like how the 422 has "Bexleyheath, Bus Garage".
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Post by Mokujin on Jun 13, 2014 14:07:14 GMT
Come to think of it...why did they change "Catford Garage" to "Bellingham...". Wouldn't "Catford, Bus Garage" have been enough? Just like how the 422 has "Bexleyheath, Bus Garage". I think its because Catford Garage isn't actually located in Catford but located in Bellingham so the blinds were probably changed for the destination to be more accurate. Happy to be corrected though.
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Post by Nathan on Jun 13, 2014 14:20:31 GMT
Come to think of it...why did they change "Catford Garage" to "Bellingham...". Wouldn't "Catford, Bus Garage" have been enough? Just like how the 422 has "Bexleyheath, Bus Garage". I think its because Catford Garage isn't actually located in Catford but located in Bellingham so the blinds were probably changed for the destination to be more accurate. Happy to be corrected though. Well they share the same post code, so I personally wouldn't mind. But I'm sure there's someone out there who would want it to be as accurate as possible.
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Post by eggmiester on Jun 13, 2014 19:49:50 GMT
ELBG did eventually change the blinds on the 'stagecoach' 453 citaro's, so they eventually showed 'Deptford Bridge' for the last year or two.
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