Night Tube Bus Routes

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C1,114,120,142,183,190,195,203,204,222,235,324
440,E2,E3,E8

[smoothcriminal]

66 would provide a great link from the central line stations to Romford.

[bigbaddom1981]

Could this potentially see the end to night buses and create 24 hour routes instead? Food for thought! It's unlikely as not all tube will be overnight, but this could be the start of removing some night buses

[Deleted]

262 to Link Stratford and Beckton plus would link to Plaistow even though the District won't run.

[Deleted]

Tricky. Is the demand along the same corridors at night as during the day?

The idea that Ruislip could somehow become a hub of night buses with the E7, 114, and U1 is fanciful! But is the demand there for something following the railway and on to West Drayton and Heathrow? Possibly. Uxbridge has nightlife, and the pubs and clubs mostly shut on a Friday after the last train and bus now.

For those in the area getting back from central london, the 'trick' is the Oxford Tube or X90 to hillingdon station, then taxi.

The intermediate bus position would be a bus every two hours throughout the night, which would on most routes amount to one or two extra journies.



The U1 route would not get enough passengers between Ickenham and Uxbridge. The U4 serves fairly busy areas - would that warrant some kind of night service?

The railways will become new 'feeders', replacing that role now provided by trunk night routes. The new role will be one of distrubution.

[sid]

Jun 27, 2014 15:20:01 GMT M1104 said:

The N155's frequency could be reduced as a result of the Morden branch of the northern line.

With the buses saved being used for a Fri/Sat night service on the 157, doesn't have to be worked by Abellio

[M1104]

Jun 28, 2014 9:13:40 GMT sid said:

Jun 27, 2014 15:20:01 GMT M1104 said:

The N155's frequency could be reduced as a result of the Morden branch of the northern line.

With the buses saved being used for a Fri/Sat night service on the 157, doesn't have to be worked by Abellio

Or run over the parallel 154 but maintaining the N155 number.

[sid]

Jun 28, 2014 9:22:15 GMT M1104 said:

Jun 28, 2014 9:13:40 GMT sid said:

With the buses saved being used for a Fri/Sat night service on the 157, doesn't have to be worked by Abellio

Or run over the parallel 154 but maintaining the N155 number.

Yes that would be another option although I think the 154 justifies a night service seven days a week.

[mondraker275]

The night tube is for Friday and Saturday nights, so converting routes to the 24 hour all week will be expensive,and only having service for Fri/Sat will be hard to incorporate into timetables without adding confusion. So there is a difficult balance.

I expect most Night services to be reduced to Sun-Thurs frequencies and no other changes to occur. In a time TfL are saving money left,right and centre, this night service is an expensive project, and I believe some of the cost will recovered from a reduced night bus service.

I would like to see 158 and 230 over W15 (Reasoning?) and 123 mentioned earlier.

[First Hayes]

They better not interfere with the N207. A frequency reduction would spell disaster. The entire route (stop for stop) is ridiculously busy as it is

[snoggle]

Jun 28, 2014 11:17:52 GMT mondraker275 said:

The night tube is for Friday and Saturday nights, so converting routes to the 24 hour all week will be expensive,and only having service for Fri/Sat will be hard to incorporate into timetables without adding confusion. So there is a difficult balance.

I expect most Night services to be reduced to Sun-Thurs frequencies and no other changes to occur. In a time TfL are saving money left,right and centre, this night service is an expensive project, and I believe some of the cost will recovered from a reduced night bus service.

I would like to see 158 and 230 over W15 (Reasoning?) and 123 mentioned earlier.

The reasoning for the W15 is simply that it is the busiest single deck day route in London so there must be a decent prospect of night time traffic - especially with the tube running at night. The numbers linking at Leytonstone are enormous so I'd expect there to be people wanting onward connections from Leyton, Leytonstone and Walthamstow Central. I appreciate the N26 covers some of its territory but not all of it.

I chose the 123 because it would give a good link from the tube at several locations and also provide an orbital night link so people could get between night bus nodes at Turnpike Lane, Tottenham and Ilford.

I can see merit in a night 158 given the links it covers and how busy it is. I'm less convinced by a night 230.

[Hassaan]

Jun 27, 2014 17:31:37 GMT @rgd976 said:

C1,114,120,142,183,190,195,203,204,222,235,324
440,E2,E3,E8

I can't see the 195 being useful at all if the 120 is there, for much of the route you can go to Hounslow for the 120 or Heathrow Airport Central/Northolt for the 140.
Would be a good idea to include the 90 in it to make it easier for access from Hatton Cross or Northolt to Hayes/Feltham rather than wasting 10 minutes on doubling back from Heathrow..

[COBO]

H12

[theexplorer]

Night Routes like the N15 and N55, N47, N205 etc would still be needed to serve areas that have no tube/night tube. So we will not see the end of the Night Buses but the cut back of them. Routes like N38 from Victoria Bus Station to Walthamstow Central station via Hackney which go from ends/starts at both Victoria Line stations which will be 24 hours fully but pass though areas that have no tube/night tube. So Night Routes will still be around but routes like N8 will most likely be review and cut back.

[LX09FBJ]

391, given that it runs parallel to the District line to Hammersmith, or even an N391, running either via N97 beyond Hammersmith or diverted at Fulham Broadway via 414 to South Kensington then via C1 to Victoria, thus connecting the Richmond branch of the District line to a Night Bus.