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Post by mb171 on May 26, 2023 20:25:50 GMT
I think this could work as a full route on its own but I'm going to put it down for fantasy as I don't think it's viable:
Route 454 - Eltham High Street to West Croydon via:
Eltham High Street Mottingham Stn Grove Park Road Chinbrook Grove Park Stn Downham (paralleling route 136 towards near Bellingham) Beckenham Hill Road Beckenham Hill Station Beckenham Junction Station Elmers End (after Elmers End 454 parallels 289 to West Croydon) via Arena and Addiscombe.
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Post by COBO on Jun 6, 2023 18:24:14 GMT
Route 48 or 82
Running between Holborn and Perivale.
Via:
Red Lion Square Procter Street Via route 98 to Oxford Circus Regent Street Hanover Street Hanover Square Harewood Place Holles Street Cavendish Square Henrietta Place Wimpole Street Wigmore Street Portman Square Portman Street Oxford Street Route 94 to Shepherds Bush Route 207 to Ealing Common Station Uxbridge Road Hanger Lane Route 483 to Hanger Lane Gyratory Western Avenue Perivale Argyle Lane Teignmouth Gardens Biddeford Avenue
Purpose: To link Perivale with Acton and to link Acton with Central London.
Using: Volvo B5LH / MCV EvoSeti
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Post by northlondon83 on Jun 6, 2023 18:46:36 GMT
Route 48 or 82 Running between Holborn and Perivale. Via: Red Lion Square Procter Street Via route 98 to Oxford Circus Regent Street Hanover Street Hanover Square Harewood Place Holles Street Cavendish Square Henrietta Place Wimpole Street Wigmore Street Portman Square Portman Street Oxford Street Route 94 to Shepherds Bush Route 207 to Ealing Common Station Uxbridge Road Hanger Lane Route 483 to Hanger Lane Gyratory Western Avenue Perivale Argyle Lane Teignmouth Gardens Biddeford Avenue Purpose: To link Perivale with Acton and to link Acton with Central London. Using: Volvo B5LH / MCV EvoSeti I know this is fantasy but Acton already has a route into central London, the 70. I know Bayswater/Kensington is barely central but it still counts in my books. Only other alternative is to extend the 7 over the 70. As for Acton to Perivale, is there really demand between the two towns? Demand from Perivale would surely be for Ealing Broadway because it's a bigger town. Whilst Perivale has a big Tesco I don't see what's the attraction coming from Acton. Acton has a fairly large Morrison's.
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Post by COBO on Jun 6, 2023 18:49:26 GMT
Route 48 or 82 Running between Holborn and Perivale. Via: Red Lion Square Procter Street Via route 98 to Oxford Circus Regent Street Hanover Street Hanover Square Harewood Place Holles Street Cavendish Square Henrietta Place Wimpole Street Wigmore Street Portman Square Portman Street Oxford Street Route 94 to Shepherds Bush Route 207 to Ealing Common Station Uxbridge Road Hanger Lane Route 483 to Hanger Lane Gyratory Western Avenue Perivale Argyle Lane Teignmouth Gardens Biddeford Avenue Purpose: To link Perivale with Acton and to link Acton with Central London. Using: Volvo B5LH / MCV EvoSeti I know this is fantasy but Acton already has a route into central London, the 70. I know Bayswater/Kensington is barely central but it still counts in my books. Only other alternative is to extend the 7 over the 70. As for Acton to Perivale, is there really demand between the two towns? Demand from Perivale would surely be for Ealing Broadway because it's a bigger town. Whilst Perivale has a big Tesco I don't see what's the attraction coming from Acton. Acton has a fairly large Morrison's. Remember it’s a fantasy and not real.
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Post by northlondon83 on Jun 9, 2023 14:16:01 GMT
Fantasy Superloop proposals in NW London X10 - Heathrow Central to Ruislip station Heathrow Central bus station Iron Bridge Road Bennetsfield Road Hillingdon Primary School Hillingdon station Ickenham station Ruislip station
Roads used: Tunnel Road East M4 Spur Stockley Road Horton Road Bennetsfield Road Stockley Road West Drayton Road Harlington Road Lees Road Uxbridge Road Long Lane High Road Ickenham Ickenham Road Kingsend Pembroke Road Station Approach
Reasons: Gives other places in Hillingdon borough a link to Stockley Park, as travel from Stockley Park is generally restricted to Uxbridge, West Drayton, Hayes and Heathrow
X12 - Ruislip station to High Barnet Ruislip station Eastcote station Pinner station/Love Lane Hatch End Telephone exchange Hatch End station Stanmore Broadway Stanmore station Canons Corner Broadfields Avenue Apex Corner Stirling Corner Barnet High Street Barnet The Spires
Roads used: Station Approach Pembroke Road Park Way Elm Avenue Field End Road Bridle Road Eastcote Road Marsh Road Bridge Street Elm Park Road Uxbridge Road Church Road The Broadway London Road Spur Road Edgware Way Barnet Way Barnet Road Wood Street Barnet High Street St Alban's Road Stapylton Road Salisbury Road
Reasons: Would provide more cross NW London links. Wouldn't serve Edgware as this would slow down the route, and the majority of the eastern section is served by the 384.
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Post by COBO on Jun 12, 2023 2:27:11 GMT
X43
From Islington Angel to New Barnet Station
Via:
Islington High Street Route 43 to Highgate Wood Aylmer Wood Lyttelton Road Falloden Way North Circular Road Henley’s Corner Great North Way Watford Way Mill Hill Circus Apex Corner Barnet Way Stirling Corner Barnet Road Route 107 to New Barnet Station
Purpose: Link Mill Hill with Barnet, Archway, Holloway and Islington.
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Post by mkay315 on Jun 28, 2023 5:15:17 GMT
Folks I was at Norwood Junction in recent times and I saw the 130 go underneath the low bridge as it always does and it got me thinking.
If somehow TFL was to one day decide it would be a double decker but make it go back on itself via the 197 through Sunnybank and then the high Street.
I wonder how many more minutes it would add onto the journey. I'm interested to hear your responses to this.
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Post by greenboy on Jun 28, 2023 6:43:45 GMT
Folks I was at Norwood Junction in recent times and I saw the 130 go underneath the low bridge as it always does and it got me thinking. If somehow TFL was to one day decide it would be a double decker but make it go back on itself via the 197 through Sunnybank and then the high Street. I wonder how many more minutes it would add onto the journey. I'm interested to hear your responses to this. It would probably add about 5 minutes at busy times but I don't think it's ever likely to happen, the 130 is fine with single deckers.
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Post by mkay315 on Jun 28, 2023 8:56:05 GMT
Folks I was at Norwood Junction in recent times and I saw the 130 go underneath the low bridge as it always does and it got me thinking. If somehow TFL was to one day decide it would be a double decker but make it go back on itself via the 197 through Sunnybank and then the high Street. I wonder how many more minutes it would add onto the journey. I'm interested to hear your responses to this. It would probably add about 5 minutes at busy times but I don't think it's ever likely to happen, the 130 is fine with single deckers. Interesting to know.
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Post by SILENCED on Jun 28, 2023 11:02:31 GMT
Folks I was at Norwood Junction in recent times and I saw the 130 go underneath the low bridge as it always does and it got me thinking. If somehow TFL was to one day decide it would be a double decker but make it go back on itself via the 197 through Sunnybank and then the high Street. I wonder how many more minutes it would add onto the journey. I'm interested to hear your responses to this. It would probably add about 5 minutes at busy times but I don't think it's ever likely to happen, the 130 is fine with single deckers. There is often temporary traffic lights at the goat house, which would add an extra 15 minutes. I use the service 2 or 3 times a month, OK not peak, but can only once ever recall someone standing, due to lack of seating options (but not zero seats available)
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Post by someone on Jul 2, 2023 19:03:33 GMT
89: Elephant & Castle to Woolwich; an interim Bakerloo feeder between E&C and Lewisham, but serves the Peckham and Camberwell, similar to the N89, also provides a new cross south London link, and will take the pressure off the routes 53 & 177 486: Extended from Bexleyheath to Slade Green via the 89 route, provides Slade Green with a direct journey to the Charlton Shopping District, Greenwich Peninsula and North Greenwich I think that would make the 89 too long. Maybe Bexleyheath to New Cross could work though, via the 321. Maybe this could also result in a future garage change to NX. Also maybe cut the 108 back to North Greenwich as the 335 pretty much does the same job as the majority of the 108, and you can take the 129 to Lewisham. If the 129 were to be extended to Blackheath Village via the 202, this would work out.
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Post by someone on Jul 2, 2023 19:08:18 GMT
Minor bus change idea in Eltham:
Make route 124 end at the 126 bus stand on Eltham High Street. Then the 124 and 126 would start their routes at the Eltham High Street/Westmount Road stop (or potentially still at the terminating stop), go along Southend Crescent and then turn right onto Footscray Road rather that do a somewhat awkward U-turn. There would be two new stops for these routes only: Newlands Court and Messeter Place. The routes would then turn left onto the High Street and continue with their current routes. (Also maybe make the destination name of the 126 Bromley Town Centre as Bromley South is a bit misleading)
So, what do you think?
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Post by COBO on Jul 16, 2023 7:47:35 GMT
Swiss Cottage and Hounslow.
Via: Finchley Road C11 to Tilling Road Tilling Road Templehof Avenue Prince Charles Drive Brent Cross Shopping Centre Route 186 to Hendon Central Vivian Avenue 83 to Hendon Station Station Road West Hendon Broadway Edgware Road Staples Corner Route 232 to Neasden Neasden Lane Neasden Station High Road Church Road Route 266 to Willesden Junction Route 228 to Savoy Circus East Acton Lane Route 70 to The Vale Acton Lane Salisbury Street Acton Lane Bollo Bridge Road South Acton Bollo Lane Gunnersbury Lane Acton Town Station Gunnersbury Avenue Chiswick Roundabout Chiswick High Road Route 237 to Hounslow Bus Station Route E8 to Bell Corner
Purpose: To link Swiss Cottage, Hendon and Brent Cross with Brentford, Acton and Hounslow.
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Post by routew15 on Jul 23, 2023 22:26:41 GMT
Having travelled on the SL8 recently, I do think TfL should consider a later addition to the Superloop. It is an alignment that is often suggested, an express route between Canning Town and Romford via the Barking Road (A124 Road). Acting as the antipode of the SL8 in West London.
- Canning Town Bus Station - Rathbone Market - Plaistow / Prince Regent Lane - Upton Park / Green Street - High Street North (East) / Newham Town Hall (West) - Burges Road - Barking Town Centre - Barking Station - Barking Bus Garage (East) / Faircross (West) - Lodge Avenue (West) / Becontree Avenue (East) - Martins Corner / Valence Avenue - Winmill Road (East) / Boxall Road (West) - Morris Road - Becontree Heath Leisure Centre - Rush Green Road / Dagenham Road (West) / Dagenham Road (East) - Queen’s Hospital - Romford Station
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Post by VMH2537 on Jul 23, 2023 23:24:42 GMT
Having travelled on the SL8 recently, I do think TfL should consider a later addition to the Superloop. It is an alignment that is often suggested, an express route between Canning Town and Romford via the Barking Road (A124 Road). Acting as the antipode of the SL8 in West London. - Canning Town Bus Station - Rathbone Market - Plaistow / Prince Regent Lane - Upton Park / Green Street - High Street North (East) / Newham Town Hall (West) - Burges Road - Barking Town Centre - Barking Station - Barking Bus Garage (East) / Faircross (West) - Lodge Avenue (West) / Becontree Avenue (East) - Martins Corner / Valence Avenue - Winmill Road (East) / Boxall Road (West) - Morris Road - Becontree Heath Leisure Centre - Rush Green Road / Dagenham Road (West) / Dagenham Road (East) - Queen’s Hospital - Romford Station I also agree and is supportive for a new express service connecting Barking and Romford. However, routing via Barking Road itself lacks the infastructure to perform effecient overtaking for faster journeys. If we want to reach Canning Town fast and quickly then it will have to take the A13 from Barking, even this road can often encounter problems for a route at times. I could maybe find it more useful if it extended to Canary Wharf or North Greenwich via the Silvertown Tunnel.
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