Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2014 12:06:16 GMT
I am not sure about the 33 extension to White City or the 57 to Elephant & Castle, as for the removal of the N213 it is a bit of a mystery, certainly TfL haven't been able to provide an explanation for its withdrawl despite numerous request.
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2014 12:40:47 GMT
I am not sure about the 33 extension to White City or the 57 to Elephant & Castle, as for the removal of the N213 it is a bit of a mystery, certainly TfL haven't been able to provide an explanation for its withdrawl despite numerous request. I forgot to say it will be changed to N33 and N57, since its served only in midnight. |
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2014 15:41:58 GMT
Extend K2 from Hook Library to Mansfield Estate via K4 .
Divert K4 at Hook Bridge Road to Epsom via 467
Withdraw 467
New school route 667 Hinchley Wood - Epsom replacing existing 467 school trips. This could be tendered by SCC.
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2014 15:51:12 GMT
In my opinion, I feel like 33 can be extended to white city during midnight so passengers from the central line can switch to 33 directly if they need to go to richmond, strawberry hill, teddington and fulwell instead of switiching either 72/220 –> 33. also 57 should extend to elephant and castle via clapham park and brixton by following the 333 during the midnight, since 57 is being a huge overlap upon 131 and 333. but within that, can anyone tell me the story about N213 and why is it cancelled? I think if you increase the 72 night service that would be sufficient for customers at White City wanting to head towards Barnes. Most people in the Barnes area use Hammersmith as their link to the tube. If the Piccadilly Line is going to run every 10 mins Fri/Sat night, I would expect demand for the 33,72,220,266 at Hammersmith to increase accordingly. These routes should be every 20 mins on fri/Sat nights when the night tube starts. A night service should also be put on the E3 ( serves Acton Town & Northfields) . |
|
|
|
Post by vjaska on Oct 8, 2014 17:45:21 GMT
Extend K2 from Hook Library to Mansfield Estate via K4 . Divert K4 at Hook Bridge Road to Epsom via 467 Withdraw 467 New school route 667 Hinchley Wood - Epsom replacing existing 467 school trips. This could be tendered by SCC. Would that not mean that the K2 has to use smaller buses like the K4 does - I did both routes end to end and the Mansfield Park area was the only tight section whilst the K2, using 10.2m buses, had a heavy load between Kingston Uni & Tolworth Broadway. |
|
|
|
Post by Nathan on Oct 8, 2014 18:12:04 GMT
Extend K2 from Hook Library to Mansfield Estate via K4 . Divert K4 at Hook Bridge Road to Epsom via 467 Withdraw 467 New school route 667 Hinchley Wood - Epsom replacing existing 467 school trips. This could be tendered by SCC. Would that not mean that the K2 has to use smaller buses like the K4 does - I did both routes end to end and the Mansfield Park area was the only tight section whilst the K2, using 10.2m buses, had a heavy load between Kingston Uni & Tolworth Broadway. And I can also add to that and say the K2 is almost always busy. Its most busiest between Tolworth & Kingston with the majority of people getting on/off at Surbiton. |
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2014 18:49:04 GMT
also 57 should extend to elephant and castle via clapham park and brixton by following the 333 during the midnight, since 57 is being a huge overlap upon 131 and 333. If you mean via Kings Avenue and Acre Lane to Brixton then that is an extension I have also suggested too. The Clapham Park area radiates towards Brixton so the lack of a night bus route seems a notable absence, and it should not significantly impact on the 57 as it would only add about 10 minutes at night. It would also restore the night link between Tooting and Brixton which was lost when the 57 became a 24-hour route, taking over the section to Streatham and the N133 being diverted away. The only advantage I can see of extending it further though is to give Stockwell Road a direct service to either Elephant & Castle or Tooting, or giving the northern end of Clapham Road one to Brixton. Is there much demand for the former ones though as neither area seems specifically connected to Stockwell Road. And the latter I think would be better served by diverting one of the Brixton Road routes. Most likely the N109 as it parallels the 159 between Oxford Circus and Brixton anyway, so Brixton Road would still retain its connection to the west end as well as creating one for Clapham Road. It would probably also only add a few minutes to journey times and not require any extra buses. |
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2014 19:55:09 GMT
Would that not mean that the K2 has to use Lo smaller buses like the K4 does - I did both routes end to end and the Mansfield Park area was the only tight section whilst the K2, using 10.2m buses, had a heavy load between Kingston Uni & Tolworth Broadway. And I can also add to that and say the K2 is almost always busy. Its most busiest between Tolworth & Kingston with the majority of people getting on/off at Surbiton. [/quote) Minor re-routing would solve that via Woodgate Avenue |
|
|
|
Post by COBO on Oct 10, 2014 1:03:51 GMT
Route 335
Running between Uxbridge and Mount Vernon Hospital.
Via:
Bakers Road - Belmont Road - High Street - Harefield Road - Oxford Road - Denham Avenue - North Orbital Road - Denham Station - North Orbital Road - Denham Way - Chalfont Lane - Old Uxbridge Road - West Hyde - Old Uxbridge Road - Woodland Road - Hornhill Road - Chalfont Road - Maple Cross - Denham Way - Uxbridge Road - Grove Road - Springwell Avenue - Mill End - Church Lane - Shepherds Lane - Tudor Way - Berry Lane - The Queens Drive - Chiltern Drive - Shepherds Lane - Church Lane - Uxbridge Road - Wensum Way - High Street - Station Road - Rickmansworth Station - Homestead Road - Rickmansworth by pass (including double run to Chorleywood Road roundabout) - High Street - Church Street - London Road (including double run to Moor Lane roundabout) - Harefield Road - Rickmansworth Road - Harefield Hospital - Rickmansworth Road - Harefield - Breakspears Road North - Northwood Road - White Hill - Batchworth Heath - Rickmansworth Road
Route 335 will provide new links between Uxbridge and Rickmansworth.
|
|
|
|
Post by sid on Oct 17, 2014 11:11:27 GMT
Extend the 353 back to Croydon via the 466 route. Reroute the 466 to Shrublands. Withdraw the 198, extend the 194 to TH maintaining links to Mayday and extend the 64 to Thornton Heath High Street Problem with this is the 198 has a lot of Shrublands users from the Whitgift Centre from my own observations which the 466 does not serve. The 194 doesn't penetrate into the Shrublands estate so it would mean people wanting the Whitgift & West Croydon having to walk. I'm also against the 64 going to Thornton Heath High Street as I'd prefer it to extend to Streatham to give the 109 some much needed help along the London Road corridor. A slight adjustment, still withdraw the 198 and reroute the 466 to Shrublands but leave the 64 and 194 out of it and instead reroute the 119 to Thornton Heath High Street (where it used to go of course) and extend the 353 (increased to every 10mins) via the 466 and 119 routes to Croydon Collonades. |
|
|
|
Post by rmz19 on Oct 20, 2014 20:15:22 GMT
Extend the 14 and 22 to Kings Cross. The 14 via Euston Road to Kings Cross, and the 22 via the 19 to Holborn and via the 59/91 to Kings Cross. Stand space shouldn't be an issue as there are a few back roads in the area. This would enable new links between Kings Cross and Piccadilly Circus/Soho/Leicester Square and the Theatres.
|
|
|
|
Post by Nathan on Oct 20, 2014 21:27:41 GMT
Extend the 14 and 22 to Kings Cross. The 14 via Euston Road to Kings Cross, and the 22 via the 19 to Holborn and via the 59/91 to Kings Cross. Stand space shouldn't be an issue as there are a few back roads in the area. This would enable new links between Kings Cross and Piccadilly Circus/Soho/Leicester Square and the Theatres. There are already enough links in the area. 19/38 to TCR, and the Piccadilly Line. And it's really not that long to walk to TCR to get a bus to King's X even. |
|
|
|
Post by snoggle on Oct 20, 2014 21:43:21 GMT
Extend the 14 and 22 to Kings Cross. The 14 via Euston Road to Kings Cross, and the 22 via the 19 to Holborn and via the 59/91 to Kings Cross. Stand space shouldn't be an issue as there are a few back roads in the area. This would enable new links between Kings Cross and Piccadilly Circus/Soho/Leicester Square and the Theatres. One problem with those proposals is space at Euston Bus Station. Eastbound buses would have to run through and you're talking about another 20+ buses per hour. Given the bus station sometimes has to close due to congestion then I can't see that working to be honest. Westbound buses could be routed to avoid Euston - as they did with the 91. An alternative for the 22 would be to run the full length of Shaftesbury Avenue, Theobalds Road, Grays Inn Road to Kings Cross. This gives a bus service to the full length of Shafetesbury Avenue rather than the occasional ad hoc use by routes avoiding TCR. It also gives new links through Bloomsbury to Kings Cross. One problem is the right hand turn from G Inn Road to Theobalds Road is currently banned and it would need a bus only cycle to be introduced which may affect junction capacity. Whether that's feasible I don't know. I'd leave the 14 alone simply because it is now so frequent that you're talking vast expense and stand space problems to extend it. My idea for the 22 isn't cheap either but would create new linkages in Central London. |
|
|
|
Post by rmz19 on Oct 20, 2014 22:52:32 GMT
Extend the 14 and 22 to Kings Cross. The 14 via Euston Road to Kings Cross, and the 22 via the 19 to Holborn and via the 59/91 to Kings Cross. Stand space shouldn't be an issue as there are a few back roads in the area. This would enable new links between Kings Cross and Piccadilly Circus/Soho/Leicester Square and the Theatres. There are already enough links in the area. 19/38 to TCR, and the Piccadilly Line. And it's really not that long to walk to TCR to get a bus to King's X even. I'm aware that there is the Piccadilly Line, but I didn't include the tube as I was referring to bus routes only. I suppose there are more links within a short walking distance to TCR, I just thought it would be more convenient for more direct bus links to the area, especially during the night when the tube isn't running. |
|
|
|
Post by vjaska on Oct 20, 2014 22:59:27 GMT
There are already enough links in the area. 19/38 to TCR, and the Piccadilly Line. And it's really not that long to walk to TCR to get a bus to King's X even. I'm aware that there is the Piccadilly Line, but I didn't include the tube as I was referring to bus routes only. I suppose there are more links within a short walking distance to TCR, I just thought it would be more convenient for more direct bus links to the area, especially during the night when the tube isn't running. I quite like the idea of the 22 going up to King's Cross, links Sloane Square and everything south west of it with areas north east of Piccadilly Circus - thumbs up from me lol. |
|
