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Post by vjaska on Oct 26, 2014 10:21:10 GMT
Extend 285 from Kingston to Tolworth and increase double deckers Or better yet keep the single decks and make it go via Berrylands. This will provide a night service along the K2 route (excluding Surbiton Station) Would it not be easier to just convert K2 to 24 hours then as the 285 can really do with deckers. |
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Post by DT 11 on Oct 26, 2014 10:24:26 GMT
extend 90 from Feltham to Sunbury Village extend 127 and 131 from Tooting Broadway to St. George's Hospital (Blackshaw Road) extend 285 from Kingston to Tolworth and increase double deckers Thats pretty much sending the 131 in a one way Loop around Tooting and putting pressure on the 57 from Tooting Broadway for at least 3 stops. |
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Post by Nathan on Oct 26, 2014 11:30:23 GMT
Or better yet keep the single decks and make it go via Berrylands. This will provide a night service along the K2 route (excluding Surbiton Station) Would it not be easier to just convert K2 to 24 hours then as the 285 can really do with deckers. Lol or do that. But I'm not too sure there would be much demand between Tolworth and Hook. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 26, 2014 12:11:27 GMT
Would it not be easier to just convert K2 to 24 hours then as the 285 can really do with deckers. Lol or do that. But I'm not too sure there would be much demand between Tolworth and Hook. I'd extend the 285 back to New Malden personally. And double deck it. High demand down Cambridge road and currently only the 131 serving it. |
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Post by Nathan on Oct 26, 2014 12:27:09 GMT
Lol or do that. But I'm not too sure there would be much demand between Tolworth and Hook. I'd extend the 285 back to New Malden personally. And double deck it. High demand down Cambridge road and currently only the 131 serving it. The N87 serves Cambridge Road also. Wouldn't it be a bit weird having more routes serve the road at night than during the day? |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 26, 2014 14:01:44 GMT
extend 90 from Feltham to Sunbury Village extend 127 and 131 from Tooting Broadway to St. George's Hospital (Blackshaw Road) extend 285 from Kingston to Tolworth and increase double deckers Sorry to be a pain but any chance you can provide reasons as to why you suggested these ideas? I doubt the stand space at St. George's Hospital can fit an extra two routes and whilst one might certainly work, I personally think the 333 is the better option. No problem at all! (going to justifly my reasons all at once) 1) If we all look closely at 57 and 131 what s the only difference between them? New malden and Shannon corner. While I originally thought about exchanging that section to south wimbledon with 152 but that may cause more chaos. If we move 131 to the hopsital, then 131 will have a better use and not classify as a assistance to 57. And If we look st the spider map of Tooting broadway, there is no links of wimbledon itself to the hospital, it will also benefit for checkups from the south west area of london instead of switching buses to get to St. George. 2) extending 285 tolworth can actually benefit from the passengers going from Teddington to tolworth section, where the 281 also serves. since majority of 285 is single deckers, If we add some double deckers and extending to tolowrth, There will be more space for passengers who cant board the 281 from the respective stations. 3) as for the 90, well it can benefit passengers from sunbury to go to north west london easier compared to taking 235 -> 90 -> central line to ruslip. I hope this answers all your questions  |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 26, 2014 14:06:14 GMT
Lol or do that. But I'm not too sure there would be much demand between Tolworth and Hook. I'd extend the 285 back to New Malden personally. And double deck it. High demand down Cambridge road and currently only the 131 serving it. Maybe extend 200 to Kingston via cambridge roada and convert that into double decker services. Cromwell road has a spot if 285 moves to tolworth. (does this seem to absurd?) |
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Post by vjaska on Oct 26, 2014 14:45:33 GMT
Sorry to be a pain but any chance you can provide reasons as to why you suggested these ideas? I doubt the stand space at St. George's Hospital can fit an extra two routes and whilst one might certainly work, I personally think the 333 is the better option. No problem at all! (going to justifly my reasons all at once) 1) If we all look closely at 57 and 131 what s the only difference between them? New malden and Shannon corner. While I originally thought about exchanging that section to south wimbledon with 152 but that may cause more chaos. If we move 131 to the hopsital, then 131 will have a better use and not classify as a assistance to 57. And If we look st the spider map of Tooting broadway, there is no links of wimbledon itself to the hospital, it will also benefit for checkups from the south west area of london instead of switching buses to get to St. George. 2) extending 285 tolworth can actually benefit from the passengers going from Teddington to tolworth section, where the 281 also serves. since majority of 285 is single deckers, If we add some double deckers and extending to tolowrth, There will be more space for passengers who cant board the 281 from the respective stations. 3) as for the 90, well it can benefit passengers from sunbury to go to north west london easier compared to taking 235 -> 90 -> central line to ruslip. I hope this answers all your questions Thank you very much Regarding your 131 proposal, I might have found a way to allow the 131 to serve the Hospital and Tooting Broadway whilst remaining at its current stand: The 131 could serve Blackshaw Road, Fountain Road, Garratt Lane in both directions before joining up with its current routing at Tooting Broadway. The negative impact of this though is the 57 will bear the brunt of the 131's first stop now being in Garratt Lane or The 131 could serve Blackshaw Road, Fountain Road, Garratt Lane towards Tooting Broadway whilst retaining its current routing direct via Tooting High Street towards Kingston. This allows it to continue assisting the 57 at that busy first stop on Tooting High Street whilst people wanting St George's Hospital still have the 155, 264 & 280 to pick from. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 26, 2014 15:50:25 GMT
Personally don't agree about the 285 to Tolworth. The 406 & 418 were re routed away from Surbiton station. Maybe that was unwise. You could restore say the 418 via the station and extend the 406 to Teddington via the 481. Then I'd re route the 481 via broom road and past Teddington studios to Kingston under the Low bridge at Hampton wick
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Post by Deleted on Oct 26, 2014 16:39:31 GMT
Personally don't agree about the 285 to Tolworth. The 406 & 418 were re routed away from Surbiton station. Maybe that was unwise. You could restore say the 418 via the station and extend the 406 to Teddington via the 481. Then I'd re route the 481 via broom road and past Teddington studios to Kingston under the Low bridge at Hampton wick I'm pretty sure you had not read this article about extending 406 to Teddington. www.dailyecho.co.uk/news/165158.venus_targets_martina_milestone/But I do agree on rerouting 1 of them to stop by Surbiton. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 26, 2014 16:48:45 GMT
Personally don't agree about the 285 to Tolworth. The 406 & 418 were re routed away from Surbiton station. Maybe that was unwise. You could restore say the 418 via the station and extend the 406 to Teddington via the 481. Then I'd re route the 481 via broom road and past Teddington studios to Kingston under the Low bridge at Hampton wick I'm pretty sure you had not read this article about extending 406 to Teddington. www.dailyecho.co.uk/news/165158.venus_targets_martina_milestone/But I do agree on rerouting 1 of them to stop by Surbiton. Yes that was when it was proposed to convert it to DPS operation and double the frequency to every 15 mins. The school head probably wouldn't complain about a midi bus every hour though ? |
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Post by vjaska on Oct 26, 2014 16:55:59 GMT
Personally don't agree about the 285 to Tolworth. The 406 & 418 were re routed away from Surbiton station. Maybe that was unwise. You could restore say the 418 via the station and extend the 406 to Teddington via the 481. Then I'd re route the 481 via broom road and past Teddington studios to Kingston under the Low bridge at Hampton wick I'm pretty sure you had not read this article about extending 406 to Teddington. www.dailyecho.co.uk/news/165158.venus_targets_martina_milestone/But I do agree on rerouting 1 of them to stop by Surbiton. I suggest that headteacher comes and rides the 417, a route that has far more than 3 schools on route and no objections from anyone regarding safety. I'm afraid I don't buy his reasoning simply because I cannot see how running a bus route endangers school children. |
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Post by vjaska on Oct 26, 2014 16:56:55 GMT
Personally don't agree about the 285 to Tolworth. The 406 & 418 were re routed away from Surbiton station. Maybe that was unwise. You could restore say the 418 via the station and extend the 406 to Teddington via the 481. Then I'd re route the 481 via broom road and past Teddington studios to Kingston under the Low bridge at Hampton wick Very interesting proposals, from an outsider, it sounds very good to me. |
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Post by LX09FBJ on Oct 26, 2014 17:54:18 GMT
I'd extend the 285 back to New Malden personally. And double deck it. High demand down Cambridge road and currently only the 131 serving it. Maybe extend 200 to Kingston via cambridge roada and convert that into double decker services. Cromwell road has a spot if 285 moves to tolworth. (does this seem to absurd?) I think the 200 could be a bit too long if projected to Kingston, but it is a good idea nevertheless. If any route should be extended to Kingston, it should be the 152, as it would not only be a shorter extension, but it too would link Mitcham and Kingston, as well as the east of Wimbledon and Pollards Hill. New Route 431: Morden to Feltham via: Bushey Road New Malden then route 131 to Kingston Hampton Court Hampton Station then the reverse of R70 (turning left onto Broad Lane) Hanworth Road Feltham Station |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 26, 2014 20:18:36 GMT
I suggest that headteacher comes and rides the 417, a route that has far more than 3 schools on route and no objections from anyone regarding safety. I'm afraid I don't buy his reasoning simply because I cannot see how running a bus route endangers school children. Totally agre, a ridiculous comment from Teddington School, who have three school buses per day serving the school anyway. He probably isn't even still in post ! |
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