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Post by snoggle on Sept 10, 2014 19:47:45 GMT
Well the 476 could be extended to Baker Street, and the 14 could use the 476 stand space. As for the 295, it would open up more connections with the Bakerloo line, and it would help out the 316 between White City and Queens Park....and partly for being selfish as it's my area lol With regards to the 14 and insufficient space at Euston, why not extend it to Kings Cross Station and terminate it round the back of the station? I'd seriously question whether there is space at Euston, with the 476 displaced, or Kings Cross for the 14. There can be up to three buses on stand at Warren St given the 14's frequency. The 476 has space for one bus at Euston and the stand space at KX is really very limited these days given how frequent the 10, 59 and 63 are. Another problem with forever expanding / extending the network is the lack of bus station and stand space - TfL are obviously aware but have few options to get a permanent solution.
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Post by thesquirrels on Sept 10, 2014 20:38:49 GMT
With regards to the 14 and insufficient space at Euston, why not extend it to Kings Cross Station and terminate it round the back of the station? I'd seriously question whether there is space at Euston, with the 476 displaced, or Kings Cross for the 14. There can be up to three buses on stand at Warren St given the 14's frequency. The 476 has space for one bus at Euston and the stand space at KX is really very limited these days given how frequent the 10, 59 and 63 are. Another problem with forever expanding / extending the network is the lack of bus station and stand space - TfL are obviously aware but have few options to get a permanent solution. I can confirm that there were five 14s on the stand outside UCH yesterday afternoon at about 4pm. Three or four is by no means unusual.
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Post by vjaska on Sept 10, 2014 21:24:09 GMT
With regards to the 14 and insufficient space at Euston, why not extend it to Kings Cross Station and terminate it round the back of the station? I'd seriously question whether there is space at Euston, with the 476 displaced, or Kings Cross for the 14. There can be up to three buses on stand at Warren St given the 14's frequency. The 476 has space for one bus at Euston and the stand space at KX is really very limited these days given how frequent the 10, 59 and 63 are. Another problem with forever expanding / extending the network is the lack of bus station and stand space - TfL are obviously aware but have few options to get a permanent solution. The one way stretch of Caledonian Road looks to have enough space to plonk the 14 by itself.
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Post by romfordbuses on Sept 10, 2014 21:34:02 GMT
Just some random ones from me...
205 to Stratford City 375 to Epping via Abridge, Debden and Loughton. 498 Brentwood to Shenfield
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Post by snoggle on Sept 10, 2014 21:35:43 GMT
Just some random ones from me... 205 to Stratford City 375 to Epping via Abridge, Debden and Loughton. 498 Brentwood to Shenfield No more conducting work for you if the last one happens - Newman's revenge as they'd probably have to stop running the 81!
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Post by romfordbuses on Sept 10, 2014 21:54:53 GMT
Ah! But I haven't posted my fantasy Ensign extensions and new routes!!
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Post by vjaska on Sept 11, 2014 0:33:38 GMT
Ah! But I haven't posted my fantasy Ensign extensions and new routes!! Route 44 to Brixton via.....erm lots of roads lol.
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Post by Nathan on Sept 11, 2014 0:35:23 GMT
New KU5 route from Kingston Hill to Tolworth via the KU1 routing from K. Hill to Penryhn Road, then follows the 281 routing to Tolworth. The KU5 route will therefore be this: Kingston Hill - Norbiton Church - Kingston, Fairfield Bus Station - Penryhn Road Campus - Surbiton Station - Surbiton - Ewell Road (A240) - Tolworth, Ewell Road (281 terminus). The route will serve every stop between Surbiton and Tolworth, but will have limited stops between K. Hill and Surbiton Station. Another new KU6 from Kingston Hospital (or Roehampton Vale) to Tolworth. The route will be this: (Roehampton Vale - Kingston Hill) - Kingston Hospital - Norbiton Church - Fairfield Bus Station - Knights Hill Campus - Clayhill Halls of Residence - Berrylands Station (via K2 routing from Ewell Road) - Tolworth (265 terminus). The section mirroring the K2 will be a hail and ride service for the KU6, as there will not be as many students getting off in this section. The idea of this route is to give students (in public sector housing as opposed to halls) free bus links to the some of the campuses. I purposely didn't make the route terminate at K. Hill as the bus stand/stop space is very tight, and other route such as the KU3 tend to wait at the stop until it is time to leave (as there is a strict schedule). The KU5 will be a day (6:00 to 00:00) time route, ideally the KU6 would be 24hr but if that's not possible then it would be a day (6:00 to 00:00) time route instead. There already is a KU5 Are you sure? Because according to my uni bus map there's routes KU1-4, KU4 being a night time service that go to all uni sites apart from Roehampton. According to Londonbusroutes.net, there are only route KU1-3 & 5. So there are two slightly different pieces of info being given. Although my friend told me the other day there is indeed a KU5 and in fact a KU6 too. But I'm not too sure if he was joking or not, lol. But in any case, the are routes I suggested can be renumbers to whatever KU number is available.
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Post by vjaska on Sept 11, 2014 0:41:06 GMT
There already is a KU5 Are you sure? Because according to my uni bus map there's routes KU1-4, KU4 being a night time service that go to all uni sites apart from Roehampton. According to Londonbusroutes.net, there are only route KU1-3 & 5. So there are two slightly different pieces of info being given. Although my friend told me the other day there is indeed a KU5 and in fact a KU6 too. But I'm not too sure if he was joking or not, lol. But in any case, the are routes I suggested can be renumbers to whatever KU number is available. I can remember my brothers school giving out maps of Herne Hill about 5 years ago that had 68A on it rather than the 468 and a 500 series route that has never existed - I really do wonder where they get their info from.
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Post by Nathan on Sept 11, 2014 0:43:29 GMT
Ah! But I haven't posted my fantasy Ensign extensions and new routes!! Route 44 to Brixton via.....erm lots of roads lol. Here's a real FANTASY bus extension for you - Route 171 to Belfast! It would go via...er...roads...more roads...a bit of sea...some more roads...then BAM! You've travelled from Bellingham, South London to Belfast for just £1.45 The route may have to convert, like the Route 25, to some Boeing 747s. Would be interesting to see how drivers turn at Brockley Rise...
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Post by Nathan on Sept 11, 2014 0:47:41 GMT
Are you sure? Because according to my uni bus map there's routes KU1-4, KU4 being a night time service that go to all uni sites apart from Roehampton. According to Londonbusroutes.net, there are only route KU1-3 & 5. So there are two slightly different pieces of info being given. Although my friend told me the other day there is indeed a KU5 and in fact a KU6 too. But I'm not too sure if he was joking or not, lol. But in any case, the are routes I suggested can be renumbers to whatever KU number is available. I can remember my brothers school giving out maps of Herne Hill about 5 years ago that had 68A on it rather than the 468 and a 500 series route that has never existed - I really do wonder where they get their info from. Yeah but I mean...surely Kingston Uni would have the common sense to put information about all their routes lol. Maybe its just me. To be fair, the KU5 only runs on Wednesday's, and I was never in on that day last year. So I don't know. I'll be moving closer to the area, so I'll have a chance to take a snap of it!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 11, 2014 8:04:08 GMT
411 to Weybridge via. Walton-on-Thames 213 to West Croydon via. the X26 route 248 to Shenfield via. Warley and Brentwood 364 to Purfleet via Orchard Village and Rainham 309 to London Bridge via. Fenchurch Street, Whitechapel and Bethnal Green LO 323 to Finsbury Park via. South Hackney, Hackney, Stoke Newington (Station), Stoke Newington (Church Street) and Clissold Park
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Post by Deleted on Sept 11, 2014 10:37:13 GMT
Discontinue the H14. Extend the 187 from Central Middlesex Hospital to Hatch End via Abbey Road - Stonebridge Park - Harrow Road - Wembley - Crawford Avenue - Harrowdene Road - North Wembley - East Lane - Watford Road - Northwick Park Hospital - H14. Withdraw the 7 between Brunel Road and East Acton Station and divert it to Ealing Broadway via 70 and 207. Extend the 395 from Westway Cross to Perivale Medway Estate via Greenford Road - Horsenden Road North - Melville Avenue - Whitton Avenue East - Bridgewater Road - Alperton - Ealing Road - Glacier Way - Alperton Sainsbury's - Athlon Road - Manor Farm Road - Bilton Road - Horsenden Road South - Perivale Station - double run via Teignmouth Gardens and Bideford Avenue to Perivale Tesco - Welland Gardens. Extend the 235 from Great West Quarter to Ealing Broadway via the 65. I think the 65_needs to be x6 mins frequency Mon-Sat and x8 Sundays. And double deck the 235.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 11, 2014 11:32:01 GMT
299 to Potters Bar via. Trent Park 299 to Crouch Hill via. Alexandra Park Road 307 to Elstree & Borhamwood via. Sterling Corner 125 to Edmonton Green via. Palmers Green 317 to North Finchley via. Oakwood and Southgate 158 to Dagenham ASDA via. East Ham and Barking 238 to Rainham Station via. Dagenham 287 to London City Airport via. Beckton 147 to Thamesmead via. London City Airport, North Woolwich and Gallions Reach Bridge
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Post by bigbaddom1981 on Sept 11, 2014 12:05:57 GMT
299 to Potters Bar via. Trent Park 299 to Crouch Hill via. Alexandra Park Road 307 to Elstree & Borhamwood via. Sterling Corner 125 to Edmonton Green via. Palmers Green 317 to North Finchley via. Oakwood and Southgate 158 to Dagenham ASDA via. East Ham and Barking 238 to Rainham Station via. Dagenham 287 to London City Airport via. Beckton 147 to Thamesmead via. London City Airport, North Woolwich and Gallions Reach Bridge Sorry if I'm being dumb, but how does the: 299 get to Crouch Hill; 317 get to North Finchley. The 299 already uses Alexandra Park Road so not sure what you mean?? North Finchley is many miles from both Southgate and Oakwood, so how does it get there?? There is no need to have the 125 go to Edmonton Green as this section is covered already by the 329 and 102 respectively. Duplication over sections of other routes would be very expensive and pointless if all it does is create direct connections over routes that are not over-crowded.
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