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Post by Deleted on Sept 11, 2014 12:18:30 GMT
299 to Potters Bar via. Trent Park 299 to Crouch Hill via. Alexandra Park Road 307 to Elstree & Borhamwood via. Sterling Corner 125 to Edmonton Green via. Palmers Green 317 to North Finchley via. Oakwood and Southgate 158 to Dagenham ASDA via. East Ham and Barking 238 to Rainham Station via. Dagenham 287 to London City Airport via. Beckton 147 to Thamesmead via. London City Airport, North Woolwich and Gallions Reach Bridge Sorry if I'm being dumb, but how does the: 299 get to Crouch Hill; 317 get to North Finchley. The 299 already uses Alexandra Park Road so not sure what you mean?? North Finchley is many miles from both Southgate and Oakwood, so how does it get there?? There is no need to have the 125 go to Edmonton Green as this section is covered already by the 329 and 102 respectively. Duplication over sections of other routes would be very expensive and pointless if all it does is create direct connections over routes that are not over-crowded. I made a mistake. via. Park Road 317 via. Oakwood, Southgate, Arnos Grove, New Southgate & Friern Barnet |
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Post by bigbaddom1981 on Sept 11, 2014 12:30:58 GMT
Sorry if I'm being dumb, but how does the: 299 get to Crouch Hill; 317 get to North Finchley. The 299 already uses Alexandra Park Road so not sure what you mean?? North Finchley is many miles from both Southgate and Oakwood, so how does it get there?? There is no need to have the 125 go to Edmonton Green as this section is covered already by the 329 and 102 respectively. Duplication over sections of other routes would be very expensive and pointless if all it does is create direct connections over routes that are not over-crowded. I made a mistake. via. Park Road 317 via. Oakwood, Southgate, Arnos Grove, New Southgate & Friern Barnet Sorry, but why does the 317 need to go that way? What would the PVR be to get buses from Waltham Cross to North Finchley. I don't believe there is stand space at North Finchley. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 11, 2014 13:32:20 GMT
I made a mistake. via. Park Road 317 via. Oakwood, Southgate, Arnos Grove, New Southgate & Friern Barnet Sorry, but why does the 317 need to go that way? What would the PVR be to get buses from Waltham Cross to North Finchley. I don't believe there is stand space at North Finchley. Maybe it can be cut short to Southgate. |
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Post by COBO on Sept 11, 2014 21:07:14 GMT
Discontinue the H14. Extend the 187 from Central Middlesex Hospital to Hatch End via Abbey Road - Stonebridge Park - Harrow Road - Wembley - Crawford Avenue - Harrowdene Road - North Wembley - East Lane - Watford Road - Northwick Park Hospital - H14. Withdraw the 7 between Brunel Road and East Acton Station and divert it to Ealing Broadway via 70 and 207. Extend the 395 from Westway Cross to Perivale Medway Estate via Greenford Road - Horsenden Road North - Melville Avenue - Whitton Avenue East - Bridgewater Road - Alperton - Ealing Road - Glacier Way - Alperton Sainsbury's - Athlon Road - Manor Farm Road - Bilton Road - Horsenden Road South - Perivale Station - double run via Teignmouth Gardens and Bideford Avenue to Perivale Tesco - Welland Gardens. Extend the 235 from Great West Quarter to Ealing Broadway via the 65. I think the 65_needs to be x6 mins frequency Mon-Sat and x8 Sundays. And double deck the 235. The 65 either needs a frequency increase or a helping hand by having another route giving it assistance. Agreed the 235 does need double decks. More from me: Reroute the 607 between Ealing Hospital and Hayes Grapes via Greenford Road - Greenford Broadway - Ruislip Road - Hayes by-pass. |
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Post by moz on Sept 11, 2014 23:01:32 GMT
I think the 65_needs to be x6 mins frequency Mon-Sat and x8 Sundays. And double deck the 235. The 65 either needs a frequency increase or a helping hand by having another route giving it assistance. There is also the longer, but more 'new linky' alternative of sending the 337 up from Richmond to either Brentford or Ealing via the 65. Moz |
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Post by vjaska on Sept 11, 2014 23:27:06 GMT
I might upset some people but when it comes to extensions/cuts/withdrawls, could we have a rule where people MUST state the reason as to why they are making that change in the first place.
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Post by COBO on Sept 12, 2014 17:32:44 GMT
The 65 either needs a frequency increase or a helping hand by having another route giving it assistance. There is also the longer, but more 'new linky' alternative of sending the 337 up from Richmond to either Brentford or Ealing via the 65. Moz Good idea but won't Traffic hotspots effect that routing. |
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Post by ServerKing on Sept 12, 2014 18:08:32 GMT
I made a mistake. via. Park Road 317 via. Oakwood, Southgate, Arnos Grove, New Southgate & Friern Barnet Sorry, but why does the 317 need to go that way? What would the PVR be to get buses from Waltham Cross to North Finchley. I don't believe there is stand space at North Finchley. Those 5 ex Brixton DW's are going to get hammered... I hope there's a PVR increase for the 317 if this goes ahead  |
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Post by ServerKing on Sept 12, 2014 18:11:37 GMT
I think the 65_needs to be x6 mins frequency Mon-Sat and x8 Sundays. And double deck the 235. The 65 either needs a frequency increase or a helping hand by having another route giving it assistance. Agreed the 235 does need double decks. More from me: Reroute the 607 between Ealing Hospital and Hayes Grapes via Greenford Road - Greenford Broadway - Ruislip Road - Hayes by-pass. an X65 express route would be good, but definitely the 235 needs double decking - hopefully Arriva will deal with this when they get the route running from Heathrow next  |
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Post by twobellstogo on Sept 12, 2014 19:45:31 GMT
I might upset some people but when it comes to extensions/cuts/withdrawls, could we have a rule where people MUST state the reason as to why they are making that change in the first place. Either that or it should be obvious from the text why you are proposing what you are proposing. |
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Post by thesquirrels on Sept 13, 2014 9:27:52 GMT
129 to Old Street, via the Blackwall Tunnel, EIDR, Commercial Road, Aldgate, Commercial Street and Great Eastern Street. As well as a new cross-river bus link it gives a new direct link from the City, Stepney and Poplar to the Peninsula and central Greenwich (the link to the former may be better used as the DLR shadows the latter along part of the route, and it is a long-ish way round). Though if the extension to Peckham actually came to light the route may well be too long to manage the lot reliably.
It should not suffer as badly as the 108 with cross-tunnel congestion as it only joins at the tunnel mouth either side rather than sitting in traffic all the way up the A102 to Bromley-by-Bow.
[edit: I note that the route is now officially DD, which I had neglected to check and puts a scupper on that idea. Oh well!]
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2014 13:49:12 GMT
More buses like the X26. Like the X98 from North Greenwich to Heathrow:
North Greenwich
Greenwich Odeon
Charlton Retail Park
East Greenwich
Greenwich Cutty Sark
Lewisham
Catford
Bell Green Retail Park
Sydenham
Crystal Palace
Thornton Heath
Waddon Marsh
Valley Park
Mitcham Fair Green
Tooting
Tooting Broadway
St. George's Hospital
Wimbledon
Raynes Park
New Malden Shannon Corner
Tolworth
Surbition
Hampton Court
Sunbury
Ashford
Staines
Heathrow T5
Heathrow Central
More routes later.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2014 14:02:42 GMT
More buses like the X26. Like the X98 from North Greenwich to Heathrow: North Greenwich Greenwich Odeon Charlton Retail Park East Greenwich Greenwich Cutty Sark Lewisham Catford Bell Green Retail Park Sydenham Crystal Palace Thornton Heath Waddon Marsh Valley Park Mitcham Fair Green Tooting Tooting Broadway St. George's Hospital Wimbledon Raynes Park New Malden Shannon Corner Tolworth Surbition Hampton Court Sunbury Ashford Staines Heathrow T5 Heathrow Central More routes later. How long would you anticipate that route taking? |
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Post by Nathan on Sept 16, 2014 14:10:46 GMT
More buses like the X26. Like the X98 from North Greenwich to Heathrow: North Greenwich Greenwich Odeon Charlton Retail Park East Greenwich Greenwich Cutty Sark Lewisham Catford Bell Green Retail Park Sydenham Crystal Palace Thornton Heath Waddon Marsh Valley Park Mitcham Fair Green Tooting Tooting Broadway St. George's Hospital Wimbledon Raynes Park New Malden Shannon Corner Tolworth Surbition Hampton Court Sunbury Ashford Staines Heathrow T5 Heathrow Central More routes later. How long would you anticipate that route taking? Well the section between East Greenwich and Bell Green will have lots of traffic hotspots. Wimbledon and New Malden (The Fountain) has its fair share of traffic too. I'm not too sure on the other sections of the proposed route, but my guess is that it could take up to 3 - 4 hours. Even if it does have limited stops or not. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2014 14:22:48 GMT
I don't really know...
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