Upcoming changes

[southlondonbus]

Oct 6, 2023 19:04:42 GMT JUNIOR26 said:

Changes to buses from Saturday 14 October
The following timetable changes will take place from Saturday 14 October.

The temporary timetable on route 14 will be removed with the frequency of the service restored to run every 10 minutes during the daytime on Monday to Saturdays and every 12 minutes during the evening and all day on Sundays. The night service will continue running every 15 minutes on Sunday to Thursday nights and every 20 minutes on Friday and Saturday nights.

A revised temporary timetable will be introduced on route 22 which will widen the frequency of the service to a bus every 11 minutes during the daytime on Monday to Saturdays and to every 13 minutes during the daytime on Sundays. No change to the evening service which will continue to run every 12 minutes on all days of the week. This temporary timetable will be in place until Hammersmith Bridge reopens to all traffic.

A revised temporary timetable will be introduced on route 37 which will widen the frequency of the service to a bus every 10-11 minutes during the AM & PM peak on Monday to Fridays and the daytime on Saturdays and to every 13 minutes during the daytime on Sundays. No change to the evening service which will continue to run every 12-15 minutes or the night service which will continue to run every 30 minutes on all nights of the week. This temporary timetable will be in place until Hammersmith Bridge reopens to all traffic.

A temporary timetable will be introduced on route 90 which will widen the frequency of the service to a bus every 11 minutes during the daytime on Monday to Saturdays and to every 16 minutes during the evening and all day on Sundays. This temporary timetable is to give buses more time to complete journeys during HS2 works on Mandeville Road.

A revised temporary timetable will be introduced on route 93 which will widen the frequency of the service to a bus every 6-7 minutes during the AM peak on Monday to Fridays, to every 8-9 minutes the PM peak on Monday to Fridays and daytime on Monday to Saturdays and to every 11 minutes during the daytime on Sundays. No change to the evening service which will continue to run every 10 minutes or the night service which will continue to run every 30 minutes on all nights of the week. This temporary timetable will be in place until Hammersmith Bridge reopens to all traffic.

A temporary timetable will be introduced on route 105 which will widen the frequency of the service to a bus every 13 minutes during the daytime and PM peak on Monday to Fridays, to every 13-14 minutes during the daytime on Saturdays and to every 16-17 minutes during the daytime on Sundays. No change to the evening or night service. This temporary timetable is to give buses more time to complete journeys during HS2 works in the Greenford area.

A temporary timetable will be introduced on route 120 which will widen the frequency of the service to a bus every 11 minutes during the daytime on Monday to Saturdays and to every 13 minutes during the daytime on Sundays. No change to the evening service. This temporary timetable is to give buses more time to complete journeys during HS2 works on Mandeville Road.

Route 223 will have a new timetable on all days of the week with minor changes to times. From this date route 223 will be operated by Metroline.

A temporary timetable will be introduced on route 226 which will widen the frequency of the service to a bus every 13 minutes during the daytime on Monday to Saturdays and to every 21 minutes during the daytime on Sundays. No change to the evening service. This temporary timetable is to give buses more time to complete journeys during HS2 works on the A40.

Route 279 will have a new timetable on all days of the week with minor changes to times.

A temporary timetable will be introduced on route 297 which will widen the frequency of the service to a bus every 12 minutes during the daytime on Monday to Saturdays and to every 14 minutes during the evening and all day on Sundays. No change to the night service which remains running every 30 minutes on all nights of the week. This temporary timetable is to give buses more time to complete journeys during HS2 works on Horsenden Lane.

A revised temporary timetable will be introduced on route 337 which will widen the frequency of the service to a bus every 13 minutes during the daytime on Monday to Saturdays and to every 16 minutes during the daytime on Sundays. No change to the evening service which will continue to run every 15 minutes on all days of the week. This temporary timetable will be in place until Hammersmith Bridge reopens to all traffic.

A temporary timetable will be introduced on route 395 which will widen the frequency of the service to a bus every 24 minutes during the daytime on Monday to Saturdays and to every 34 minutes during the evening and all day on Sundays. This temporary timetable is to give buses more time to complete journeys during HS2 works on Mandeville Road.

The temporary timetable on route 422 will be removed with the frequency of the service restored to run every 10 minutes during the daytime on Monday to Saturdays and every 12 minutes during the evening and all day on Sundays. This is following the completion of gas main works on Blackwall Lane.

A revised temporary timetable will be introduced on route 424 which will widen the frequency of the service to a bus every 32 minutes between 0700 and 1300 on Monday to Fridays and 1000 to 1900 on Sundays and to every 34 minutes between 1300 and 1900 on Monday to Fridays. No change outside of these times. This temporary timetable will be in place until Hammersmith Bridge reopens to all traffic.

A revised temporary timetable will be introduced on route 493 which will widen the frequency of the service to a bus every 13 minutes during the daytime on Monday to Saturdays and to every 21 minutes during the daytime on Sundays. No change to the evening service which will continue to run every 20 minutes on all days of the week. This temporary timetable will be in place until Hammersmith Bridge reopens to all traffic.

Route N279 will have a new timetable on all nights of the week with minor changes to times.

Blimey, temporary timetables on the 22/37/93/337/424/493 till it re opens. I think the word temporary can be taken with a pinch of salt.

I think in the case of the 37 and 93 in particular its a bit unfair when they play such an important role at the other ends of the routes.

[MetrolineGA1511]

Oct 6, 2023 19:46:53 GMT southlondonbus said:

Oct 6, 2023 19:04:42 GMT JUNIOR26 said:

Changes to buses from Saturday 14 October
The following timetable changes will take place from Saturday 14 October.

The temporary timetable on route 14 will be removed with the frequency of the service restored to run every 10 minutes during the daytime on Monday to Saturdays and every 12 minutes during the evening and all day on Sundays. The night service will continue running every 15 minutes on Sunday to Thursday nights and every 20 minutes on Friday and Saturday nights.

A revised temporary timetable will be introduced on route 22 which will widen the frequency of the service to a bus every 11 minutes during the daytime on Monday to Saturdays and to every 13 minutes during the daytime on Sundays. No change to the evening service which will continue to run every 12 minutes on all days of the week. This temporary timetable will be in place until Hammersmith Bridge reopens to all traffic.

A revised temporary timetable will be introduced on route 37 which will widen the frequency of the service to a bus every 10-11 minutes during the AM & PM peak on Monday to Fridays and the daytime on Saturdays and to every 13 minutes during the daytime on Sundays. No change to the evening service which will continue to run every 12-15 minutes or the night service which will continue to run every 30 minutes on all nights of the week. This temporary timetable will be in place until Hammersmith Bridge reopens to all traffic.

A temporary timetable will be introduced on route 90 which will widen the frequency of the service to a bus every 11 minutes during the daytime on Monday to Saturdays and to every 16 minutes during the evening and all day on Sundays. This temporary timetable is to give buses more time to complete journeys during HS2 works on Mandeville Road.

A revised temporary timetable will be introduced on route 93 which will widen the frequency of the service to a bus every 6-7 minutes during the AM peak on Monday to Fridays, to every 8-9 minutes the PM peak on Monday to Fridays and daytime on Monday to Saturdays and to every 11 minutes during the daytime on Sundays. No change to the evening service which will continue to run every 10 minutes or the night service which will continue to run every 30 minutes on all nights of the week. This temporary timetable will be in place until Hammersmith Bridge reopens to all traffic.

A temporary timetable will be introduced on route 105 which will widen the frequency of the service to a bus every 13 minutes during the daytime and PM peak on Monday to Fridays, to every 13-14 minutes during the daytime on Saturdays and to every 16-17 minutes during the daytime on Sundays. No change to the evening or night service. This temporary timetable is to give buses more time to complete journeys during HS2 works in the Greenford area.

A temporary timetable will be introduced on route 120 which will widen the frequency of the service to a bus every 11 minutes during the daytime on Monday to Saturdays and to every 13 minutes during the daytime on Sundays. No change to the evening service. This temporary timetable is to give buses more time to complete journeys during HS2 works on Mandeville Road.

Route 223 will have a new timetable on all days of the week with minor changes to times. From this date route 223 will be operated by Metroline.

A temporary timetable will be introduced on route 226 which will widen the frequency of the service to a bus every 13 minutes during the daytime on Monday to Saturdays and to every 21 minutes during the daytime on Sundays. No change to the evening service. This temporary timetable is to give buses more time to complete journeys during HS2 works on the A40.

Route 279 will have a new timetable on all days of the week with minor changes to times.

A temporary timetable will be introduced on route 297 which will widen the frequency of the service to a bus every 12 minutes during the daytime on Monday to Saturdays and to every 14 minutes during the evening and all day on Sundays. No change to the night service which remains running every 30 minutes on all nights of the week. This temporary timetable is to give buses more time to complete journeys during HS2 works on Horsenden Lane.

A revised temporary timetable will be introduced on route 337 which will widen the frequency of the service to a bus every 13 minutes during the daytime on Monday to Saturdays and to every 16 minutes during the daytime on Sundays. No change to the evening service which will continue to run every 15 minutes on all days of the week. This temporary timetable will be in place until Hammersmith Bridge reopens to all traffic.

A temporary timetable will be introduced on route 395 which will widen the frequency of the service to a bus every 24 minutes during the daytime on Monday to Saturdays and to every 34 minutes during the evening and all day on Sundays. This temporary timetable is to give buses more time to complete journeys during HS2 works on Mandeville Road.

The temporary timetable on route 422 will be removed with the frequency of the service restored to run every 10 minutes during the daytime on Monday to Saturdays and every 12 minutes during the evening and all day on Sundays. This is following the completion of gas main works on Blackwall Lane.

A revised temporary timetable will be introduced on route 424 which will widen the frequency of the service to a bus every 32 minutes between 0700 and 1300 on Monday to Fridays and 1000 to 1900 on Sundays and to every 34 minutes between 1300 and 1900 on Monday to Fridays. No change outside of these times. This temporary timetable will be in place until Hammersmith Bridge reopens to all traffic.

A revised temporary timetable will be introduced on route 493 which will widen the frequency of the service to a bus every 13 minutes during the daytime on Monday to Saturdays and to every 21 minutes during the daytime on Sundays. No change to the evening service which will continue to run every 20 minutes on all days of the week. This temporary timetable will be in place until Hammersmith Bridge reopens to all traffic.

Route N279 will have a new timetable on all nights of the week with minor changes to times.

Blimey, temporary timetables on the 22/37/93/337/424/493 till it re opens. I think the word temporary can be taken with a pinch of salt.

I think in the case of the 37 and 93 in particular its a bit unfair when they play such an important role at the other ends of the routes.

I agree that temporary is a fairly loose term here, as Hammersmith Bridge is quite some way from reopening yet.

[lundnah]

There's a lot of "A temporary timetable will be introduced which will widen the frequency of the service" around at the moment.

On Saturday 14th October: 22, 37, 90, 93, 105, 120, 226, 297, 337, 395, 424, 493

On Saturday 21st October: 261, 273, 419

On Saturday 28th October: 286, U9

The last five are newly announced.

This is...

...until Hammersmith Bridge reopens to all traffic.

...to give buses more time to complete journeys during HS2 works on the A40.

...to give buses more time to complete journeys during HS2 works on Harvil Road.

...to give buses more time to complete journeys during HS2 works on Horsenden Lane.

...to give buses more time to complete journeys during HS2 works on Mandeville Road.

...to give buses more time to complete journeys during HS2 works in the Greenford area.

...to give buses more time to complete journeys during major works at Manor Circus roundabout.

...to give buses more time to complete journeys during road layout changes in the Greenwich area.

...to give buses more time to complete journeys during water main works on Westhorne Avenue and Baring Road.

Are roadworks particularly bad at the moment, or is this a new strategy to try to improve reliability?

[evergreenadam]

Oct 11, 2023 16:02:09 GMT lundnah said:

There's a lot of "A temporary timetable will be introduced which will widen the frequency of the service" around at the moment.

On Saturday 14th October: 22, 37, 90, 93, 105, 120, 226, 297, 337, 395, 424, 493

On Saturday 21st October: 261, 273, 419

On Saturday 28th October: 286, U9

The last five are newly announced.

This is...

...until Hammersmith Bridge reopens to all traffic.

...to give buses more time to complete journeys during HS2 works on the A40.

...to give buses more time to complete journeys during HS2 works on Harvil Road.

...to give buses more time to complete journeys during HS2 works on Horsenden Lane.

...to give buses more time to complete journeys during HS2 works on Mandeville Road.

...to give buses more time to complete journeys during HS2 works in the Greenford area.

...to give buses more time to complete journeys during major works at Manor Circus roundabout.

...to give buses more time to complete journeys during road layout changes in the Greenwich area.

...to give buses more time to complete journeys during water main works on Westhorne Avenue and Baring Road.

Are roadworks particularly bad at the moment, or is this a new strategy to try to improve reliability?

There are roadworks everywhere in West/South West London, last few months have been a total nightmare on top of the two bridge closures over the Thames.

[northlondon83]

Oct 11, 2023 16:02:09 GMT lundnah said:

There's a lot of "A temporary timetable will be introduced which will widen the frequency of the service" around at the moment.

On Saturday 14th October: 22, 37, 90, 93, 105, 120, 226, 297, 337, 395, 424, 493

On Saturday 21st October: 261, 273, 419

On Saturday 28th October: 286, U9

The last five are newly announced.

This is...

...until Hammersmith Bridge reopens to all traffic.

...to give buses more time to complete journeys during HS2 works on the A40.

...to give buses more time to complete journeys during HS2 works on Harvil Road.

...to give buses more time to complete journeys during HS2 works on Horsenden Lane.

...to give buses more time to complete journeys during HS2 works on Mandeville Road.

...to give buses more time to complete journeys during HS2 works in the Greenford area.

...to give buses more time to complete journeys during major works at Manor Circus roundabout.

...to give buses more time to complete journeys during road layout changes in the Greenwich area.

...to give buses more time to complete journeys during water main works on Westhorne Avenue and Baring Road.

Are roadworks particularly bad at the moment, or is this a new strategy to try to improve reliability?

Tfl are becoming more and more ridiculous! Goodness knows when Hammersmith Bridge will open, it could be a few years down the line. No doubt tfl will go back on their word on some of these

[JUNIOR26]

Changes to buses from Saturday 4 November
The following timetable changes will take place from Saturday 4 November.

Route 221 will have a new timetable on all days of the week with minor changes to times.

The Summer Sunday extension of route 246 to Chartwell House will finish with buses returning to running between Bromley North and Westerham only from Sunday 6 November. There will be minor changes to the timetable on Sundays. The extension to Chartwell House will resume in Spring of 2024.

[Paul]

Oct 12, 2023 11:28:25 GMT JUNIOR26 said:

The Summer Sunday extension of route 246 to Chartwell House will finish with buses returning to running between Bromley North and Westerham only from Sunday 6 November. There will be minor changes to the timetable on Sundays. The extension to Chartwell House will resume in Spring of 2024.

Only three more Chartwells for me to get through this year then and all of them on this coming Sunday. We’ll be back to battling inconsiderate parking in the Westerham car park on a Sunday now

[southlondonbus]

Oct 12, 2023 12:48:41 GMT Paul said:

Oct 12, 2023 11:28:25 GMT JUNIOR26 said:

The Summer Sunday extension of route 246 to Chartwell House will finish with buses returning to running between Bromley North and Westerham only from Sunday 6 November. There will be minor changes to the timetable on Sundays. The extension to Chartwell House will resume in Spring of 2024.

Only three more Chartwells for me to get through this year then and all of them on this coming Sunday. We’ll be back to battling inconsiderate parking in the Westerham car park on a Sunday now

Which terminal is nicer then to serve. Westerham or Chartwell?

[Paul]

Oct 12, 2023 13:59:04 GMT southlondonbus said:

Oct 12, 2023 12:48:41 GMT Paul said:

Only three more Chartwells for me to get through this year then and all of them on this coming Sunday. We’ll be back to battling inconsiderate parking in the Westerham car park on a Sunday now

Which terminal is nicer then to serve. Westerham or Chartwell?

Good question

I always look forward to going back to Chartwell every year as it’s somewhere different. But by this time of year I’m a bit fed up of cars shooting around the blind bends leading to and from Chartwell and having to squeeze past. The problem is, Chartwell is a lovely place to spend a few minutes whereas Westerham is just in a bland car park. So yeah, I’m going to go with Chartwell being the nicer terminal to serve

[southlondonbus]

Oct 12, 2023 21:49:18 GMT Paul said:

Oct 12, 2023 13:59:04 GMT southlondonbus said:

Which terminal is nicer then to serve. Westerham or Chartwell?

Good question

I always look forward to going back to Chartwell every year as it’s somewhere different. But by this time of year I’m a bit fed up of cars shooting around the blind bends leading to and from Chartwell and having to squeeze past. The problem is, Chartwell is a lovely place to spend a few minutes whereas Westerham is just in a bland car park. So yeah, I’m going to go with Chartwell being the nicer terminal to serve

Iv been to Chartwell a few times but never on the 246. Next year I'll try to go on it.

[gwiwer]

117 does need a boost ideally but can't see that happening.

One of the issues is stand space at West Middx Hospital.  There's not a lot and it is shared between three routes.  I agree that the 117 is in urgent need of an uplift.  It can't be double-decked due to a low bridge at Isleworth station so that isn't an answer.  It could be diverted but that loses some direct links and probably can't follow the H28 LOR due to restricted roads / turns.  It's a busy route pretty much all the way too; not just at the Isleworth end.  

[evergreenadam]

Oct 16, 2023 13:26:13 GMT gwiwer said:

117 does need a boost ideally but can't see that happening.

One of the issues is stand space at West Middx Hospital.  There's not a lot and it is shared between three routes.  I agree that the 117 is in urgent need of an uplift.  It can't be double-decked due to a low bridge at Isleworth station so that isn't an answer.  It could be diverted but that loses some direct links and probably can't follow the H28 LOR due to restricted roads / turns.  It's a busy route pretty much all the way too; not just at the Isleworth end.  

The 481 and H22 run virtually empty into the hospital grounds, so I’d be happy to see either or both kicked out and rerouted somewhere more useful like Gillette Corner Tesco or Brentford County Court. I know that would go against the grain of the current agenda to improve access to hospitals but the reality is the 481 is too infrequent for most hospital patients to bother with and the H22 duplicates the 267 and most passengers prefer to wait at the common stop outside on Twickenham Road from where there is a more frequent service to Twickenham.

[londonbuses]

Oct 16, 2023 17:19:20 GMT evergreenadam said:

Oct 16, 2023 13:26:13 GMT gwiwer said:

One of the issues is stand space at West Middx Hospital.  There's not a lot and it is shared between three routes.  I agree that the 117 is in urgent need of an uplift.  It can't be double-decked due to a low bridge at Isleworth station so that isn't an answer.  It could be diverted but that loses some direct links and probably can't follow the H28 LOR due to restricted roads / turns.  It's a busy route pretty much all the way too; not just at the Isleworth end.  

The 481 and H22 run virtually empty into the hospital grounds, so I’d be happy to see either or both kicked out and rerouted somewhere more useful like Gillette Corner Tesco or Brentford County Court. I know that would go against the grain of the current agenda to improve access to hospitals but the reality is the 481 is too infrequent for most hospital patients to bother with and the H22 duplicates the 267 and most passengers prefer to wait at the common stop outside on Twickenham Road from where there is a more frequent service to Twickenham.

Both routes can be kicked out easily, just send the H22 back to Richmond, (either sharing a stand with the H37 or using the Queen's Road stand), along with a small frequency increase to the 267, and extend the 481 to Brentford County Court or Osterley Tesco as you have said.

[londonbuses]

Changes to buses from Saturday 11 November:

Route 38 will have a new timetable on all days of the week with minor changes to times.

Route 363 will have a new timetable on all days of the week with minor changes to times. From this date route 363 will be operated by Abellio.

Route N38 will have a new timetable on all nights of the week. On Friday & Saturday nights the frequency of the route will be amended with buses running every 15 minutes between Walthamstow Central and Piccadilly Circus with every other bus running onto Victoria Station to provide a 30 minute service between Victoria and Piccadilly Circus. There will be no change to the frequency on Sunday to Thursday nights with the frequency remaining at every 20 minutes between Walthamstow Central and Victoria Station but there will be minor changes to times.  

The new times for all the above routes are available in our journey planner tool at www.tfl.gov.uk/plan-a-journey


Changes to buses from Saturday 18 November:

A temporary timetable will be introduced on route 13 which will widen the frequency of the service to a bus every 10 minutes between 1300 and 2000 on Monday to Saturdays, every 11-12 minutes between 2000 and 2300 on Monday to Saturdays & 1300 and 1900 on Sundays and to every 12-13 minutes between 1900 and 2300 on Sundays. There is no change to the service outside of these times. This temporary timetable will give buses more time to complete journeys during increased traffic levels in the Hyde Park area during Winter Wonderland.

24 hour route 14 will have a new timetable on all days and nights of the week. On Friday & Saturday nights the frequency of route 14 will be improved with buses running every 15 minutes instead of every 20 minutes. A temporary timetable will also be introduced on route 14 which will widen the frequency of the service to a bus every 11 between 1300 and 2000 on Monday to Saturdays and to every 13 minutes between 2000 & 2300 on Monday to Saturdays and 1300 to 2300 on Sundays. There is no change to the service outside of these times. This temporary timetable will give buses more time to complete journeys during increased traffic levels in the Hyde Park area during Winter Wonderland.

A temporary timetable will be introduced on route 23 which will widen the frequency of the service to a bus every 12-13 minutes between 1300 and 2300 on all days. There is no change to the service outside of these times. This temporary timetable will give buses more time to complete journeys during increased traffic levels in the Hyde Park area during Winter Wonderland.

Route 39 will have a new timetable on all days of the week with minor changes to times.

Route 74 will have a new timetable on all days of the week with minor changes to times.

A temporary timetable will be introduced on route 148 which will widen the frequency of the service to a bus every 10-11 minutes between 1000 and 1500 and then to every 11 minutes between 1500 and 2300 on Monday to Fridays. On Saturdays the frequency will be widened to every 11 minutes between 1500 and 2300 and to 13 minutes on Sundays between 1400 and 2300. There is no change to the service outside of these times. This temporary timetable will give buses more time to complete journeys during increased traffic levels in the Hyde Park area during Winter Wonderland.

Route 430 will have a new timetable from this date. Buses will be revised to run every 12 minutes at all times on all days of the week except before 0830 on Sundays when buses will run every 20 minutes.

Route 436 will have a new timetable from this date. Buses will be revised to run every 12 minutes at all times on all days of the week except before 0630 on Monday to Saturdays and 0930 on Sundays when buses will run every 15-20 minutes.

Route H20 will have a new timetable on all days of the week with minor changes to times.

Route N74 will have a new timetable on all nights of the week with minor changes to times.

Route N136 will have a new timetable on all nights of the week with minor changes to times.

Route U7 will have a new timetable on all days of the week with minor changes to times. From this date the schooldays only journeys at 0802 from Hayes Sainsbury's to Uxbridge Station and 1457 from Uxbridge Station to Hayes Sainsbury's journeys are withdrawn.

The new times for all the above routes are available in our journey planner tool at www.tfl.gov.uk/plan-a-journey

[VMH2537]

Improvements:

Route 14 increased from every 20 minutes to every 15 minutes on Friday and Saturday nights

Frequency cuts:

Routes 430 & 436 reduced from 6bph to 5bph

Route N38 reduced from every 10 minutes to every 15 minutes. Every 20 minutes to every 30 minutes between Piccadilly Circus and Victoria