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Post by londonbuses on Jan 10, 2024 13:54:52 GMT
With the 346/497 changes announced to be happening on the 9th March, it seems TfL will really have their work cut out with the Sutton/Croydon changes, the introduction of 3 new Superloop routes and the 346/497 changes all happening in a space of a few weeks.
New Routes: 439, 443, S2, SL2, SL3, SL5
Route changes: 164?, 166, 312, 346, 407, 434, 470, S4
Withdrawn Routes: 455, 497
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Post by southlondon413 on Jan 10, 2024 14:13:42 GMT
With the 346/497 changes announced to be happening on the 9th March, it seems TfL will really have their work cut out with the Sutton/Croydon changes, the introduction of 3 new Superloop routes and the 346/497 changes all happening in a space of a few weeks. New Routes: 439, 443, S2, SL2, SL3, SL5 Route changes: 164?, 166, 312, 346, 407, 434, 470, S4 Withdrawn Routes: 455, 497 As far as I aware the 164 change isn’t happening yet. Probably isn’t needed anymore as the hospital plan has stalled without funding and a workable plan. |
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Post by SILENCED on Jan 10, 2024 14:32:38 GMT
With the 346/497 changes announced to be happening on the 9th March, it seems TfL will really have their work cut out with the Sutton/Croydon changes, the introduction of 3 new Superloop routes and the 346/497 changes all happening in a space of a few weeks. New Routes: 439, 443, S2, SL2, SL3, SL5 Route changes: 164?, 166, 312, 346, 407, 434, 470, S4 Withdrawn Routes: 455, 497 Such a shame the 497 could not be reused for the potential 443 |
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Post by londonbuses on Jan 10, 2024 14:34:25 GMT
With the 346/497 changes announced to be happening on the 9th March, it seems TfL will really have their work cut out with the Sutton/Croydon changes, the introduction of 3 new Superloop routes and the 346/497 changes all happening in a space of a few weeks. New Routes: 439, 443, S2, SL2, SL3, SL5 Route changes: 164?, 166, 312, 346, 407, 434, 470, S4 Withdrawn Routes: 455, 497 Such a shame the 497 could not be reused for the potential 443 Personally I would have gone for 437, or alternatively kept the West Croydon to Caterham section numbered 407 and renumbered the Sutton to Croydon section to 408. |
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Post by SILENCED on Jan 10, 2024 14:36:56 GMT
Such a shame the 497 could not be reused for the potential 443 Personally I would have gone for 437, or alternatively kept the West Croydon to Caterham section numbered 407 and renumbered the Sutton to Croydon section to 408. 407/408 is a firm favourite of mine, but I'd the Caterham section is to change 497 would have been what I would have picked if available. Intrigued, any historical significance linked to 437 that I am missing? |
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Post by vjaska on Jan 10, 2024 14:41:55 GMT
Personally I would have gone for 437, or alternatively kept the West Croydon to Caterham section numbered 407 and renumbered the Sutton to Croydon section to 408. 407/408 is a firm favourite of mine, but I'd the Caterham section is to change 497 would have been what I would have picked if available. Intrigued, any historical significance linked to 437 that I am missing? I doubt the 408 would ever be used in that part of the world especially with the nearby 408 at Chipstead Valley. I imagine 437 was chosen simply because it ends in a 7 so has correspondence with the 407 in that regard, similar to your suggestion of the 497? |
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Post by londonbuses on Jan 10, 2024 14:44:41 GMT
Personally I would have gone for 437, or alternatively kept the West Croydon to Caterham section numbered 407 and renumbered the Sutton to Croydon section to 408. 407/408 is a firm favourite of mine, but I'd the Caterham section is to change 497 would have been what I would have picked if available. Intrigued, any historical significance linked to 437 that I am missing? No, it's just the number that fits best in my opinion if the Croydon to Caterham section has to be changed, assuming the 497 cannot be used. |
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Post by londonbuses on Jan 10, 2024 14:45:50 GMT
I imagine 437 was chosen simply because it ends in a 7 so has correspondence with the 407 in that regard, similar to your suggestion of the 497? The Croydon to Caterham section of the 407 used to be part of the 197, so I would imagine that was where the suggestion came from. |
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Post by DT 11 on Jan 12, 2024 18:16:41 GMT
From tomorrow All Buses in Croydon coming from the Flyover will now turn left into Fell Road. Buses serving St Georges Walk will go straight ahead, buses serving Fairfield Halls will turn right onto Katherine Street.
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Post by southlondonbus on Jan 12, 2024 18:24:42 GMT
I imagine 437 was chosen simply because it ends in a 7 so has correspondence with the 407 in that regard, similar to your suggestion of the 497? The Croydon to Caterham section of the 407 used to be part of the 197, so I would imagine that was where the suggestion came from. Ironically could call it the 497 as come madch the number will be free now. |
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Post by greenboy on Jan 13, 2024 10:24:30 GMT
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Post by DT 11 on Jan 13, 2024 10:53:34 GMT
This doesn’t surprise me… On Tuesday they were incorrect when I was doing the 468… When the stops were moved from Katherine Street they were not updated absolutely pathetic… |
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Post by twobellstogo on Jan 13, 2024 11:37:13 GMT
407/408 is a firm favourite of mine, but I'd the Caterham section is to change 497 would have been what I would have picked if available. Intrigued, any historical significance linked to 437 that I am missing? No, it's just the number that fits best in my opinion if the Croydon to Caterham section has to be changed, assuming the 497 cannot be used. The current Surrey 408 is way too close to this proposed 408 - it’s a really poor choice I’m afraid - sorry. |
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Post by SILENCED on Jan 13, 2024 11:54:17 GMT
No, it's just the number that fits best in my opinion if the Croydon to Caterham section has to be changed, assuming the 497 cannot be used. The current Surrey 408 is way too close to this proposed 408 - it’s a really poor choice I’m afraid - sorry. I think you underestimate the South London public |
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Post by gwiwer on Jan 13, 2024 12:11:24 GMT
The current Surrey 408 is way too close to this proposed 408 - it’s a really poor choice I’m afraid - sorry. I think you underestimate the South London public There are enough of us around who remember when the 408 ran Chelsham to Guildford through Croydon. |
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