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Post by Eastlondoner62 on May 22, 2024 18:50:23 GMT
Closure of Farringdon Street northbound Due to gas main works Farringdon Street will be closed northbound between Ludgate Circus and Charterhouse Street from Monday 27 May until early September. Route 17 will be diverted towards Archway after bus stop F at City Thameslink Station via Fleet Street, Fetter Lane and New Fetter Lane to Holborn Circus re-joining normal route at bus stop H on Holborn. No change towards London Bridge. Route 25 will be curtailed to St Paul's Station from Ilford. Buses will set down at bus stop SQ and pick up from bus stop ST on Newgate Street. The stops at City Thameslink Station will not be served. Route 40 will be diverted towards Clerkenwell Green after bus stop J at Blackfriars Station via Fleet Street, Fetter Lane, New Fetter Lane, Holborn Circus and Charterhouse Street to Farringdon Road re-joining normal route at bus stop A at Farringdon Station. No change towards Dulwich. Routes 63 & N63 will be diverted towards King's Cross after bus stop J at Blackfriars Station via Fleet Street, Fetter Lane, New Fetter Lane, Holborn Circus and Charterhouse Street to Farringdon Road re-joining normal route at bus stop A at Farringdon Station. No change towards Honor Oak. Route 341 will be diverted towards Meridian Water after bus stop L at The Royal Courts of Justice via Fetter Lane, New Fetter Lane, Holborn Circus and Charterhouse Street to Farringdon Road re-joining normal route at bus stop A at Farringdon Station. No change towards Waterloo. These works are due to finish in early September. All bus stops will be served on the diversionary routes. Interestingly the first 25 stop at Newgate Street suggests that the route will stand at St Barts Hospital, the stand seems to be relatively crowded ever since the 59 was sent there. Will it have room for a large route like the 25?
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Post by fortheloveofbuses on May 23, 2024 11:13:48 GMT
Found this today, seems like TFL are trying to merge routes 14 and 414 once again. The link currently takes you to a closed page as of right now. Attachments:
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Post by southlondon413 on May 23, 2024 11:21:05 GMT
Found this today, seems like TFL are trying to merge routes 14 and 414 once again. The link currently takes you to a closed page as of right now. Not surprised at all. I’ve said for ages that the 14 should creep back towards a 30 PVR, maybe high 20s and the 414 axed.
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Post by southlondonbus on May 23, 2024 11:22:47 GMT
Found this today, seems like TFL are trying to merge routes 14 and 414 once again. The link currently takes you to a closed page as of right now. Not surprised at all. I’ve said for ages that the 14 should creep back towards a 30 PVR, maybe high 20s and the 414 axed. Would explain the tender spec still not issued and atleast Go Ahead have no shortage of buses spare from the part 22, 88, 172 and 188.
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Post by bk10mfe on May 23, 2024 11:23:41 GMT
Found this today, seems like TFL are trying to merge routes 14 and 414 once again. The link currently takes you to a closed page as of right now. Not surprised at all. I’ve said for ages that the 14 should creep back towards a 30 PVR, maybe high 20s and the 414 axed. Yeah I agree with this I would be rather happy to see the 14 increased in frequency & the 414 withdrawn.
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Post by WH241 on May 23, 2024 11:23:47 GMT
Found this today, seems like TFL are trying to merge routes 14 and 414 once again. The link currently takes you to a closed page as of right now. Not surprised at all. I’ve said for ages that the 14 should creep back towards a 30 PVR, maybe high 20s and the 414 axed. The downside to this is the ridiculous high cost per mile of the 14 compared to the 414.
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Post by bk10mfe on May 23, 2024 11:26:05 GMT
Found this today, seems like TFL are trying to merge routes 14 and 414 once again. The link currently takes you to a closed page as of right now. What bus stop did you find this at?
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Post by southlondon413 on May 23, 2024 11:27:05 GMT
Not surprised at all. I’ve said for ages that the 14 should creep back towards a 30 PVR, maybe high 20s and the 414 axed. The downside to this is the ridiculous high cost per mile of the 14 compared to the 414. Right now the 14 is only £2 per mile more. There is a significant saving to be made if the 14s PVR went to 26/27 and the 414s additional 10/11 vehicles were withdrawn.
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Post by southlondonbus on May 23, 2024 11:31:45 GMT
Not surprised at all. I’ve said for ages that the 14 should creep back towards a 30 PVR, maybe high 20s and the 414 axed. The downside to this is the ridiculous high cost per mile of the 14 compared to the 414. In that respect it would have been better to have done this when the 16/507/521 went and no renwed the 14s contract.
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Post by fortheloveofbuses on May 23, 2024 11:39:44 GMT
Found this today, seems like TFL are trying to merge routes 14 and 414 once again. The link currently takes you to a closed page as of right now. What bus stop did you find this at? Saw this at Edith Grove, stop HE.
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Post by ADH45258 on May 23, 2024 11:41:32 GMT
Found this today, seems like TFL are trying to merge routes 14 and 414 once again. The link currently takes you to a closed page as of right now. I wonder by how much the frequency (and therefore PVR) will be increased? Assuming the increased route remains on the current Go Ahead contract (awarded with a PVR of 21) - and the 414 is not awarded - there is then the question of space at AF, which I think is currently at full capacity. Could the 14 or 22 maybe run from SW if needed? Can use the Victoria Line to/from Green Park or Oxford Circus. Obviously it may line up neatly with RATP surrendering the 414 early - though may need a short contract extension while the consultation takes place. But if that hadn't happened, I wonder what TFL would have done? Also could this involve any frequency change to the 74 as well, or is the current frequency sufficient to/from Marble Arch? And is there a need for the extra capacity between Hyde Park Corner and Russell Square?
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Post by DE20106 on May 23, 2024 11:45:27 GMT
The downside to this is the ridiculous high cost per mile of the 14 compared to the 414. Right now the 14 is only £2 per mile more. There is a significant saving to be made if the 14s PVR went to 26/27 and the 414s additional 10/11 vehicles were withdrawn. Also looking at the cost of the 14 per mile, it’s actually pretty similar to the cost per mile of most contracts coming out today
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Post by southlondonbus on May 23, 2024 11:45:28 GMT
Found this today, seems like TFL are trying to merge routes 14 and 414 once again. The link currently takes you to a closed page as of right now. I wonder by how much the frequency (and therefore PVR) will be increased? Assuming the increased route remains on the current Go Ahead contract (awarded with a PVR of 21) - and the 414 is not awarded - there is then the question of space at AF, which I think is currently at full capacity. Could the 14 or 22 maybe run from SW if needed? Can use the Victoria Line to/from Green Park or Oxford Circus. Obviously it may line up neatly with RATP surrendering the 414 early - though may need a short contract extension while the consultation takes place. But if that hadn't happened, I wonder what TFL would have done? Also could this involve any frequency change to the 74 as well, or is the current frequency sufficient to/from Marble Arch? And is there a need for the extra capacity between Hyde Park Corner and Russell Square? I doubt by Much tbh. Most times I see the 14/414 off peak you could quite easily fit everyone on 1 bus so I'd imagine it will go to every 8 mins with maybe a couple of extra peak trips if needed. As for the 74 is pretty lightly used throughout so I think it and the 137 will be sufficient.
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Post by ilovelondonbuses on May 23, 2024 11:48:28 GMT
Found this today, seems like TFL are trying to merge routes 14 and 414 once again. The link currently takes you to a closed page as of right now. Very interesting development. I think this is a good idea in essence to merge routes 14 and 414. Whenever I see route 414, it is always empty and following a usually well loaded route 14 bus. It will be interesting to see how Putney fits the increased PVR of route 14 if this goes ahead, I’m guessing a route will have to move out to another garage as Putney is at full capacity right now. On another note, it seems that TFL have come to the decision that route 74 is sufficient enough for Marble Arch - Putney corridor. The withdrawal of route 414 will relieve pressure at the Marble Arch stands as well.
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Post by M1104 on May 23, 2024 12:35:04 GMT
Found this today, seems like TFL are trying to merge routes 14 and 414 once again. The link currently takes you to a closed page as of right now. Think I'll start keeping an eye out on 45 and 118 bus stops lol
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