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Post by ADH45258 on Jun 10, 2024 13:59:56 GMT
I fail to understand why any work started at Euston prior to there being a proper commitment for HS2 to terminate at Euston and not Old Oak Common. I am also surprised at the choice of Euston as a terminus, surely Paddington would be easier, cheaper and better. It has the Elizabeth line and Euston would remain with the West Coast Main line. Popular YouTuber Jago Hazzard put a video out about why HS2 won’t terminate at Paddington. Short answer is there isn’t enough capacity there to accommodate it, Marylebonewas built to pretty much act as a relief station for Paddington as it is, before adding in a brand new rail network Euston didn't have the space either - they had to demolish quite a large area up to Hampstead Road to make space for new platforms. So I suspect the same would have been the case for any station choice. |
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Post by southlondon413 on Jun 10, 2024 14:27:05 GMT
Popular YouTuber Jago Hazzard put a video out about why HS2 won’t terminate at Paddington. Short answer is there isn’t enough capacity there to accommodate it, Marylebonewas built to pretty much act as a relief station for Paddington as it is, before adding in a brand new rail network Euston didn't have the space either - they had to demolish quite a large area up to Hampstead Road to make space for new platforms. So I suspect the same would have been the case for any station choice. I think the key difference being there was space around Euston to do that whilst simultaneously triggering a major regeneration for a on the whole neglected and ugly station. Not to mention that Euston is better connected to more onward travel options, either via the tube or a short walk. Paddington has always felt a bit isolated to me. |
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Post by VMH2537 on Jun 10, 2024 14:31:13 GMT
Sadiq Khan, you are indeed a very good actor. What's with the beef now on cutting a busy well used trunk route between Kingston and Putney?
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Post by WH241 on Jun 10, 2024 14:54:36 GMT
Sadiq Khan, you are indeed a very good actor. What's with the beef now on cutting a busy well used trunk route between Kingston and Putney? All smoke and mirrors with the new Superloop routes and the new north London route. I expect it’s now business as usual now until the next election. More frequency cuts etc… |
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Post by abellion on Jun 10, 2024 15:03:08 GMT
Changes to buses from Saturday 29 June 2024 Frequency decrease: 85 (reduced from 7.5bph to 6bph Mon-Sat daytimes) Frequency increase: 440 (starts earlier in the morning, increased from 3bph to 4bph Sunday daytimes, increased from 2bph to 3bph all evenings). Changing operator: 465 (RATP > TUK) Temporary timetable introduced: 31 Temporary timetable removed: 88, H91 Minor changes to times: 328, 406, 418, C1 Whoever wrote the bus changes page on TfL's website has made a major typo, claiming the 85 will run every 20 minutes when it should say every 10 minutes. The 211 reroute and operator change which should take place on this date are also missing at the moment. tfl.gov.uk/modes/buses/bus-changesThe 85 being cut is annoying considering how busy it is… it seemed like it was spared unlike the 57 and 213 but apparently not, perhaps the 131 won’t be safe either. |
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Post by wirewiper on Jun 10, 2024 15:15:34 GMT
Im gonna say one that many may not agree or get with, but Im going to blame HS2. Hampstead Road has been one big community, it was where the 24 had most of its passengers, but now because 70% of the existing Euston residents have been kicked out the area, relocated or moved because the area is now a dump, there has been some rapid decline. As someone from the area, its quite common having to walk up to Warren Street as all the bus stops on Hampstead Road are closed because of HS2/Thames Water works and single file traffic and delays. Im not sure where you would even need to use the 24 in any scenario, the 29 or 88 being much more useful unless its Malden Road residents up to the Heath or Camden or the minimal single digit usage between Pimlico amd Parliament Square. I was a child growing up when the 24 had its Es so my memory is quite limited, but one I do remember is always preferring them to the 88’s VWLs and it was a loooot busier than it now is. Needless to say though, the 24 is very busy on the weekends (when a bus comes every 20 minutes lol). I fail to understand why any work started at Euston prior to there being a proper commitment for HS2 to terminate at Euston and not Old Oak Common. I am also surprised at the choice of Euston as a terminus, surely Paddington would be easier, cheaper and better. It has the Elizabeth line and Euston would remain with the West Coast Main line. There was a commitment for HS2 to terminate at Euston until the most recent Conservative Government intervened in the project. Euston is a far better terminus than Paddington and would have tied into a bigger "Euston Cross" interchange linking Euston, St Pancras International and Kings Cross together more closely. Also if HS2 and Crossrail 2 were being built, many of the trains that currently terminate at Euston would be diverted to those lines. |
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Post by wirewiper on Jun 10, 2024 15:27:17 GMT
Sadiq Khan, you are indeed a very good actor. What's with the beef now on cutting a busy well used trunk route between Kingston and Putney? Fair question - but then would Susan Hall have stopped TfL from doing this? |
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Post by SILENCED on Jun 10, 2024 15:41:34 GMT
Sadiq Khan, you are indeed a very good actor. What's with the beef now on cutting a busy well used trunk route between Kingston and Putney? Fair question - but then would Susan Hall have stopped TfL from doing this? That is a question we will never know the answer to .... But sure you will say she wouldn't have. |
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Post by YX18KVJ (DLE30221) on Jun 10, 2024 15:42:43 GMT
Changes to buses from Saturday 29 June 2024 Frequency decrease: 85 (reduced from 7.5bph to 6bph Mon-Sat daytimes) Frequency increase: 440 (starts earlier in the morning, increased from 3bph to 4bph Sunday daytimes, increased from 2bph to 3bph all evenings). Changing operator: 465 (RATP > TUK) Temporary timetable introduced: 31 Temporary timetable removed: 88, H91 Minor changes to times: 328, 406, 418, C1 Whoever wrote the bus changes page on TfL's website has made a major typo, claiming the 85 will run every 20 minutes when it should say every 10 minutes. The 211 reroute and operator change which should take place on this date are also missing at the moment. tfl.gov.uk/modes/buses/bus-changesThe 85 being cut is annoying considering how busy it is… it seemed like it was spared unlike the 57 and 213 but apparently not, perhaps the 131 won’t be safe either. The 131 was awarded with it's current PVR,so it may be safe for now... |
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Post by VMH2537 on Jun 10, 2024 15:51:37 GMT
Sadiq Khan, you are indeed a very good actor. What's with the beef now on cutting a busy well used trunk route between Kingston and Putney? Fair question - but then would Susan Hall have stopped TfL from doing this? I can't imagine any difference if she were elected. Though I'm now seeing Khan's getting increasingly confident a Labour government will get into power on July 4th meaning whatever he does won't have any strong opposition to critise his actions whether coming from cuts or elsewhere. |
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Post by Eastlondoner62 on Jun 10, 2024 17:51:52 GMT
Fair question - but then would Susan Hall have stopped TfL from doing this? I can't imagine any difference if she were elected. Though I'm now seeing Khan's getting increasingly confident a Labour government will get into power on July 4th meaning whatever he does won't have any strong opposition to critise his actions whether coming from cuts or elsewhere. That shouldn't have much of an impact on him as the GLA holds him to account. What the Labour government should mean though is more of his plans being green lit. |
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Post by greg on Jun 10, 2024 17:55:41 GMT
Popular YouTuber Jago Hazzard put a video out about why HS2 won’t terminate at Paddington. Short answer is there isn’t enough capacity there to accommodate it, Marylebonewas built to pretty much act as a relief station for Paddington as it is, before adding in a brand new rail network Euston didn't have the space either - they had to demolish quite a large area up to Hampstead Road to make space for new platforms. So I suspect the same would have been the case for any station choice. Failed regeneration. I was in primary school when the works started and HS2 had us make drawings of the ‘future’ and we had quite a big class, more than 3/4 of my peers have been forcibly relocated to the new HS2 blocks if they’re lucky and a large commune to areas such as Newham and Tower Hamlets. A lot of the land has now become very cheap tacky bench areas with fake grass to try and cover it all up. Governments need to do better. I could agree with the space, Euston would have been an easy option, they did knock down quite haunted cemeteries and random blocks, but it all led to housing blocks being demolished and now everything is pretty much demolished |
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Post by evergreenadam on Jun 10, 2024 18:53:46 GMT
Changes to buses from Saturday 29 June 2024 Frequency decrease: 85 (reduced from 7.5bph to 6bph Mon-Sat daytimes) Frequency increase: 440 (starts earlier in the morning, increased from 3bph to 4bph Sunday daytimes, increased from 2bph to 3bph all evenings). Changing operator: 465 (RATP > TUK) Temporary timetable introduced: 31 Temporary timetable removed: 88, H91 Minor changes to times: 328, 406, 418, C1 Whoever wrote the bus changes page on TfL's website has made a major typo, claiming the 85 will run every 20 minutes when it should say every 10 minutes. The 211 reroute and operator change which should take place on this date are also missing at the moment. tfl.gov.uk/modes/buses/bus-changesThe increase in frequency on the 440 is welcome, I presume justified by the popularity of the Acton to Wembley link. |
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Post by DE20106 on Jun 10, 2024 19:21:22 GMT
Changes to buses from Saturday 29 June 2024 Frequency decrease: 85 (reduced from 7.5bph to 6bph Mon-Sat daytimes) Frequency increase: 440 (starts earlier in the morning, increased from 3bph to 4bph Sunday daytimes, increased from 2bph to 3bph all evenings). Changing operator: 465 (RATP > TUK) Temporary timetable introduced: 31 Temporary timetable removed: 88, H91 Minor changes to times: 328, 406, 418, C1 Whoever wrote the bus changes page on TfL's website has made a major typo, claiming the 85 will run every 20 minutes when it should say every 10 minutes. The 211 reroute and operator change which should take place on this date are also missing at the moment. tfl.gov.uk/modes/buses/bus-changesSurely the 85 is a mistake. It says on the website : ”24-hour route 85 will have a new timetable on all days of the week with journey times revised to better reflect current traffic levels. Buses will now run every 20 minutes during both the daytime and evening on all days of the week.”Buses will run at every twenty minutes during the daytime? TWENTY?!?! Surely not from every eight minutes. Surely |
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Post by DE20106 on Jun 10, 2024 19:37:09 GMT
Sadiq Khan, you are indeed a very good actor. What's with the beef now on cutting a busy well used trunk route between Kingston and Putney? All smoke and mirrors with the new Superloop routes and the new north London route. I expect it’s now business as usual now until the next election. More frequency cuts etc… I’m certainly not a fan of Khan as many will know, but from my POV it does actually seem like the cuts have been really toned down I can’t recall any other cuts except the 110 and upcoming 85? Also the new 310 and 495 coming. I am expecting to see cuts but I’ve been surprised to see them not being that heavy. (Although cynically he’s expanded ULEZ so he probably be seen to be brutally slashing public transport options) I also wouldn’t call the new Superloop ‘smoke and mirrors’. It would be smoke and mirrors if he was pretending to improve journeys when nothing is happening. Such as the rebranding of the SL8 and SL9, and to an extent the SL7 definitely could be viewed as that. I wouldn’t imagine myself ever defending the mayor, but creating 10 brand new routes to make genuine new and faster links is much harder to argue with |
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