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Post by busoccultation on Aug 6, 2017 14:35:38 GMT
Not working for me but then I'm not on Facebook so I assume it's one of those hidden pages. I've looked on the main Londoner facebook page and their website but nothing there. Here's a Screenshot, hopefully this works i.imgur.com/Re9bQYZ.png?1Looks decent and also didn't expect them to apply the front as well. However, the positioning of the colour could have been better with more mixed of light and dark colours especially at the front which is mainly light colour and bits that surround the staircase is full of dark colour.
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Post by astock5000 on Aug 6, 2017 14:44:08 GMT
It's not too surprising, though I didn't expect it to wrap around the front of the bus. The livery itself isn't too bad but the placement of the logos seems very messy. In my opinion it would have looked so much better had the East London Transit writing been where the adverts would usually go, with everything else in their normal positions. As it is the ELT name looks squashed at the front, the roundel too far forward and slightly low, and the Go-Ahead logo almost lost and seemingly randomly placed. I'm assuming that's a "cleaner air for London" hybrid logo to the rear of the roundel, which I thought LTs weren't supposed to have (none were delivered with hybrid logos after the first 40, though I'm not sure whether the reasoning was that everyone knew they were all hybrid or that they look smarter without them). Though this isn't the first to receive them as RATP applied such stickers to many of the LTs based at V. I think your a little bit kind to it lol - for me, the livery sat really well on the WVL's as if it was designed with that design in mind but here, the whole package looks really awkward especially the text - as you say, just swap the 'East London Transit' text with the Go-Ahead logo and also reposition the rounded slightly higher as it personally doesn't look right. Yeah, I was probably being kind. To be honest I don't really see why the ELT routes need a special livery when it isn't a proper bus rapid transit scheme with significant priority or limited stop, while the standard all-red livery suits LTs more than this style of livery as it adds to the retro London Transport 'feel' to them. But we knew this branding was coming and of course it would be similar to the colours and style used on the WVLs as that's still on the shelters etc. So my post was more about how well it has been applied to these buses and as I said I personally think it could still have been done better.
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Post by Eastlondoner62 on Aug 6, 2017 14:53:12 GMT
I think your a little bit kind to it lol - for me, the livery sat really well on the WVL's as if it was designed with that design in mind but here, the whole package looks really awkward especially the text - as you say, just swap the 'East London Transit' text with the Go-Ahead logo and also reposition the rounded slightly higher as it personally doesn't look right. Yeah, I was probably being kind. To be honest I don't really see why the ELT routes need a special livery when it isn't a proper bus rapid transit scheme with significant priority or limited stop, while the standard all-red livery suits LTs more than this style of livery as it adds to the retro London Transport 'feel' to them. But we knew this branding was coming and of course it would be similar to the colours and style used on the WVLs as that's still on the shelters etc. So my post was more about how well it has been applied to these buses and as I said I personally think it could still have been done better. Well, only the shelters on the EL1s route carry the livery, along with the part of the EL2 which goes down to Dagenham Dock. None of the shelters along the EL2 between Becontree Heath and Barking have the specially coloured stops and the same goes for most of the EL3s route as well. I don't have a problem with the colours schemes, but if you're gonna do it then do it properly.
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Post by ibus246 on Aug 6, 2017 14:54:54 GMT
I think it looks nice😬😬😬
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Post by Deleted on Aug 6, 2017 15:41:25 GMT
Guess this confirms the 15 and ELT batch of LTs will not be mixed unless a small batch are left unbranded for the ELT routes.
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Post by joefrombow on Aug 6, 2017 22:11:44 GMT
Guess this confirms the 15 and ELT batch of LTs will not be mixed unless a small batch are left unbranded for the ELT routes. This is Blue Triangle we are talking about 😂 there will be some sort of Mixing (Wether or not there is suppose to be) Any bus is better than no bus 😉 I like Route Branding when done properly I have to agree though this ELT branding seems pointless when there is no real difference to any other routes .
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Post by londonbusexplorer on Aug 6, 2017 22:20:34 GMT
LT939 seems to have become the first branded bus. You guys are in for a surprise if you haven't seen it I think the livery looks very rushed and isn't actually identical to the livery put on the WVLs. They should really swap around the "Blue Triangle" logo and "East London Transit" text so it doesn't look like it has been squashed in. Also I think the below cab fleet number and "CLEANER AIR FOR LONDON" at the very bottom just doesn't look right!
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Post by Alexis on Aug 7, 2017 22:52:35 GMT
I think it looks nice😬😬😬 I agree, I like the way it's turned out.
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Post by RandomBusesGirl on Aug 8, 2017 11:02:51 GMT
Have anyone else noticed the incomplete orange circle towards the back of the bus? God, that's gonna be a nightmare to everyone with an OCD, how could they have left it like that?
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Post by westhamgeezer on Aug 8, 2017 15:01:41 GMT
Have anyone else noticed the incomplete orange circle towards the back of the bus? God, that's gonna be a nightmare to everyone with an OCD, how could they have left it like that? Yes me! Don't understand it!
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Post by ThinLizzy on Aug 9, 2017 16:52:54 GMT
Guess this confirms the 15 and ELT batch of LTs will not be mixed unless a small batch are left unbranded for the ELT routes. they'll have to be mixed if the N15 is going to be operated with NRMs as there's not enough in the 15 batch to cover the PVR. To be fair to RR, they did manage to keep the ELT branded vehicles to the EL1/2 before the route was converted to NRMs.
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Post by ThinLizzy on Aug 9, 2017 17:16:54 GMT
Guess this confirms the 15 and ELT batch of LTs will not be mixed unless a small batch are left unbranded for the ELT routes. they'll have to be mixed if the N15 is going to be operated with NRMs as there's not enough in the 15 batch to cover the PVR. To be fair to RR, they did manage to keep the ELT branded vehicles to the EL1/2 before the route was converted to NRMs. incidentally, are any of the 5s "existing vehicles" coming from the ELT pool of Geminis? Will be quite ironic to see buses ELT branded buses on the 5 (that should be de-branded) running next to non-branded LTs on the EL2 (that should be branded.)
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Post by Eastlondoner62 on Aug 9, 2017 17:35:02 GMT
they'll have to be mixed if the N15 is going to be operated with NRMs as there's not enough in the 15 batch to cover the PVR. To be fair to RR, they did manage to keep the ELT branded vehicles to the EL1/2 before the route was converted to NRMs. incidentally, are any of the 5s "existing vehicles" coming from the ELT pool of Geminis? Will be quite ironic to see buses ELT branded buses on the 5 (that should be de-branded) running next to non-branded LTs on the EL2 (that should be branded.) Yeah, some of the 5s vehicles were said to be coming from the EL1 and EL2 WVL346-349 seem to have vanished so I wouldn't be surprised if they turn up on the 5. In order for the N15 to be fully LT the only way I see it working is if Q or another Go Ahead garage with LTs take a partial allocation of the route. I honestly don't see the point of the branding if they're actively going to be allocated to the N15 and running around through central London. Q should have around 26 buses spare at night from the 12, that's more than enough to top up the N15 if required.
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Post by brutxi on Aug 11, 2017 18:25:21 GMT
LT920 seen today with the ELT livery. On top of that 2 new bus stops on top end of Mallards Road have been erected today.
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Post by Eastlondoner62 on Aug 12, 2017 10:57:31 GMT
LT920 seen today with the ELT livery. On top of that 2 new bus stops on top end of Mallards Road have been erected today. Its nice to see that some progress seems to have been made on preparing the extension, its far closer than it feels now. I did take a ride on the EL2 to Dagenham Dock the other day and could see what looked like the new bus stand for the EL1 and EL3 under construction. However it didn't look like the road leading to that bus stand was ready, but they've got three weeks to sort that out.
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